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#8676
Senior Member

Joined: Nov 2012
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From: Vermont
Bikes: Tanglefoot Hardtack, Riv Sam Hillborne, a Purple Waterford
Hi Scrod,
'14 soma rush or 5th anniversary Big block?
why?
thanks!
'14 soma rush or 5th anniversary Big block?
why?
thanks!
#8677
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
If yon plan on growing it out pretty long, steer clear from washing your face with soap that will will dry your beard out. Dry beard = broken hairs.
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#8679
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
#8680
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Hey Scrod,
I've been looking at 165mm and 167.5mm crankarms. I'm currently running 170's, but I'm curious as to which one I should switch to. I'm riding a 55cm Leader 725.
My measurements are here (bottom left corner).
Thanks!
I've been looking at 165mm and 167.5mm crankarms. I'm currently running 170's, but I'm curious as to which one I should switch to. I'm riding a 55cm Leader 725.
My measurements are here (bottom left corner).
Thanks!
#8681
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2011
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From: East Bay
Bikes: Mash Work, Gunnar Crosshairs, Velo Orange Camargue
Thanks for the info Scrod. Haven't checked out a pair of Soma's in person yet so I can't really judge them fairly, just wanted to see what other options I have. Thanks, also that beard info was helpful, never thought of conditioning with coconut oil I just might have to try that out.
#8682
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Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 997
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From: Roanoke, Va
Bikes: 2013 leader 721. 2015 leader 725. 2012 fuji feather
Thanks for the info Scrod. Haven't checked out a pair of Soma's in person yet so I can't really judge them fairly, just wanted to see what other options I have. Thanks, also that beard info was helpful, never thought of conditioning with coconut oil I just might have to try that out.
(we need a beard thread)
#8683
I can speak intelligently about beards! Much more so than bikes. I shampoo and condition once a week and use macadamia nut beard oil twice a week. This is especially important after you shampoo and condition because that dries it out. Either way, definitely oil it up. Makes it nice and soft and tames the fly aways if you have a wiry beard.
#8684
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Joined: Mar 2014
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Which do you prefer? I know it's personal preference, but I was hoping to get some input of some sort before getting them.
#8685
Old fart



Joined: Nov 2004
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From: Appleton WI
Bikes: Several, mostly not name brands.
If you're concerned about pedal strike in corners, your frame's bottom bracket drop (the distance between a line drawn through the hub axles and the center of your bottom bracket spindle) is also a factor. Bikes designed for fixed gear use tend to have less drop (higher bottom bracket) than road bikes to provide clearance for pedaling around corners. If your bike is a converted road frame, this may be an issue.
#8686
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If you're concerned about pedal strike in corners, your frame's bottom bracket drop (the distance between a line drawn through the hub axles and the center of your bottom bracket spindle) is also a factor. Bikes designed for fixed gear use tend to have less drop (higher bottom bracket) than road bikes to provide clearance for pedaling around corners. If your bike is a converted road frame, this may be an issue.
I went ahead and snagged a 165mm SG75 crankset for $160, which I thought was a pretty good deal.
#8687
Old fart



Joined: Nov 2004
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From: Appleton WI
Bikes: Several, mostly not name brands.
I like 165mm arms on my fixed gear bikes, and not just for pedal clearance. The shorter arms make it easier to spin at high RPMs, which is helpful when riding downhill, for example.
#8688
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
FWIW, I had been using 170mm for a long time and recently discovered that my legs like 165mm better.
#8689
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Joined: Jul 2013
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How consistent are the dimensions of h+son archetype rims and all city new sheriff hubs? I will be ordering all the bits to build some soon. Is it safe to trust published dimensions and if not could you measure a set that I buy so I can get spokes and all shipped at once?
Also, do you have/can you get white spokes (obviously if available from the manufacturer)? I want white spokes on either side of the valve stems and black every where else.
Also, do you have/can you get white spokes (obviously if available from the manufacturer)? I want white spokes on either side of the valve stems and black every where else.
#8690
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Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
How consistent are the dimensions of h+son archetype rims and all city new sheriff hubs? I will be ordering all the bits to build some soon. Is it safe to trust published dimensions and if not could you measure a set that I buy so I can get spokes and all shipped at once?
We don't stock white spokes. Soma makes some but they are ****ty and only available in two lengths.
#8691
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The reason they would differ is manufacturing tolerances. I would assume that most relatively decent rims/hubs with modern manufacturing practices have negligible variations. But, I have never built a wheel from scratch and many guides recommend measuring the components in hand instead of relying on manufacturers data (presumably because extremes in manufacturing tolerances are enough to necessitate ordering different length spokes).
If this is not the case, then I'm good to go. Thanks.
#8692
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Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
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Even if tolerances did differ from rim to rim or hub to hub, the difference would likely be within a mm or (worst case scenario) two, which would make no real world difference in regard to spoke length.
#8693
What you say makes perfect sense and fits with my experience (which is very limited). For some reason a number of folks over in the mechanics forum keep telling everybody to not trust published numbers ans measure the ERD for themselves for every rim they get.
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#8694
I think the major gotcha is that there is some variation between manufacturers over exactly how the ERD is measured. The same could be said for on-line calculators.
#8695
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Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
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I've measured rims and hubs myself many times and always come out within a fraction of a mm from published specs. For example: if a published spoke hole diameter is 67mm and I come up with 67.2mm, that has no effect on anything whatsoever and it's safe to just call it 67mm.
I'd think there's be a bigger margin for variation and error when measuring by hand, wouldn't you?
I'd think there's be a bigger margin for variation and error when measuring by hand, wouldn't you?
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#8696
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Joined: Mar 2013
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From: PDX
Bikes: Bare knuckle, Cross-Check, Serotta Colorado
Hey Scrod,
On single walled rims should I use rim strips or rim tape?
Thanks!
On single walled rims should I use rim strips or rim tape?
Thanks!
#8697
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Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Either will work but I prefer using Velox tape for everything.
#8698
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From: PDX
Bikes: Bare knuckle, Cross-Check, Serotta Colorado
Thanks!
I got some cheap rim strips from the local Co op and i got 3 flats when I was off the bike. One person at the Co op said rim strips are best for single walled but everyone else says either will work.
I got some cheap rim strips from the local Co op and i got 3 flats when I was off the bike. One person at the Co op said rim strips are best for single walled but everyone else says either will work.
#8699
old legs
Joined: Aug 2009
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any opinions on the IRD SS freewheel compared to the ENO
#8700
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Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
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IRD makes a damn fine freewheel. I've got a multi-speed on my townie and sell the SS version to people all the time who want something good but don't want to spend White Industries money.




