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#9251
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2011
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From: Austin, TX
How twitchy is the Rum Runner? I'm looking for a budget steel frame to replace my 722ts, and the Rum Runner seems to be an option, but the geometry seems like it'll be a lot twitchier. Also, thinking of ordering it paired with the lugged steel fork on your shop, which, though only a 3mm difference in rake, would decrease the trail by another 3mm. I'm hesitant to take an already twitchy bike and decrease the trail by another 3mm.
#9252
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
It's got track geo so I guess it could be considered "twitchy".
I've built up quite a few Rum Runners for customers using our lugged fork and honestly don't notice any difference in handling between that and the Pake fork.
I've built up quite a few Rum Runners for customers using our lugged fork and honestly don't notice any difference in handling between that and the Pake fork.
#9253
Grumpy Old Bugga
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,229
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From: Adelaide, AUSTRALIA
Bikes: Hillbrick, Malvern Star Oppy S2, Europa (R.I.P.)
It will most likely work. I've installed quite a few rear calipers on the front for people. Usually a 40mm nut will do the trick - unless it's a carbon fork with really this crown walls and then, as TT says, the threaded portion of the bolt won't reach the inside of the fork. That shouldn't be an issue on your Kilo fork though.
#9254
Thoughts on the park tools home truing stand? I'm looking to buy a stand to keep my wheels trued and learn to build wheels. I trust park tools on their quality but am I going to regret just not buying their higher end stand?
Park Tool TS-8 Home Mechanic Wheel Truing Stand https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000LNW2OS..._0PHGub16XVD6M
Park Tool TS-8 Home Mechanic Wheel Truing Stand https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000LNW2OS..._0PHGub16XVD6M
#9255
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
I've ordered a few for customers and they're good. If you're just using it occasionally at home, it's all you'll ever need and nothing you don't.
#9256
Scrod, what can you tell about miche primato pista hubset? I've heard some talks that they aren't that suitable for street riding.
Same question about bombtrack drome hubset.
Thanks.
Same question about bombtrack drome hubset.
Thanks.
#9257
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
What would make a high flange, sealed bearing hub "not suitable for street riding"? Whoever said that is an idiot. I know several people (including my wife) who have been using them on the street for years.
I've never seen the BT hubs in person but I'm sure they'd also be fine.
I've never seen the BT hubs in person but I'm sure they'd also be fine.
#9258
#9259
Scrod - first question for me so go easy on me if you can!
Carbon fork w/ carbon steerer. Is it necessary to have a spacer above the stem or can the stem be at the top? 2009 Jamis Sonik is the bike, street ridden commuter because I can. Will see no track use.
Carbon fork w/ carbon steerer. Is it necessary to have a spacer above the stem or can the stem be at the top? 2009 Jamis Sonik is the bike, street ridden commuter because I can. Will see no track use.
#9260
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
It's probably fine without one but I typically put at least a 5mm spacer on top of the stem to ensure the stem's clamp making full contact with the steerer.
#9261
I am not sure what size is on there now, but I have two smaller spacers that are the equivalent height. Going to split the difference with one under and one over. Just looking for a little rise out of it. Swapping the stem simply cannot happen because the stem is straight ******.
Thanks for the answer.
Thanks for the answer.
#9263
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Yup. 
I don't recommend using more than 30-35mm worth of spacers under the stem on a carbon steerer though.
I don't recommend using more than 30-35mm worth of spacers under the stem on a carbon steerer though.
#9264
I am above your recommended amount then. I believe that the fork is uncut (not sure as I bought the bike used). I am 6'0" with a very freakishly long torso, and a 30" inseam. I am lucky that I got my height, but unlucky that I got the geometry of a turtle. The bike is a 58cm frame. There are currently 2 1/4" worth of spacers under the stem right now, which equates to about 57mm of spacers.
Does this add unnecessary stress on the steerer tube? I don't crank hard on the bars or on the bike that much as I ride it for fun and commute to work on the street. I do not track or race the bike at all.
Does this add unnecessary stress on the steerer tube? I don't crank hard on the bars or on the bike that much as I ride it for fun and commute to work on the street. I do not track or race the bike at all.
#9266
Thank you for that article. Now, from what I am reading, they are talking about TT bikes, where you would rest quite a bit of your body weight on the bars/pads/steerer tube. Regardless, I just sent an inquiry to Jamis to see what they recommend. The last thing that I want is a catastrophic failure on the bike.
#9267
Veteran Racer


Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,854
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From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Bikes: 34 frames + 80 wheels
Thank you for that article. Now, from what I am reading, they are talking about TT bikes, where you would rest quite a bit of your body weight on the bars/pads/steerer tube. Regardless, I just sent an inquiry to Jamis to see what they recommend. The last thing that I want is a catastrophic failure on the bike.
#9268
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
Likes: 100
From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
#9269
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 408
Likes: 2
From: Gainesville, FL
Bikes: 2015 Aventon Diamond
#9270
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Oh ****, sorry. Never mind.
#9271
I see what you did there. I really like the stem a lot. Using that term may have given the wrong impression. Being safe is the number one thing, so I am looking into other options.
#9272
:)
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,420
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From: San Jose, CA
Bikes: Cannondale CAAD12, Specialized Rockhopper, Norco Fluid FS1
You stock Aventon now? Didn't you used to not like them?
#9273
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 638
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From: Hawaii
Bikes: 2012 Switch Performance BlackSkin LE Urban, 2013 Leader 725, 1975 Fuji America, 1990 Giant Cadex 980c, 1986 Peugeot PH10LE, 1995 Trek 2120 Carbon ZX
Not Scrod...But I don't see Aventon's for sale on his site at all.....
#9275
I'm going to be out in SD for an interview next week, I'll try to swing by the shop and check it out.




