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Old 04-18-15, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mumonkan
think id explode if i took the wheels you built for my track bike, and used them for an sscx bike with rim brakes?

theyre 32h 2x with lasers and nmsw A23s

im leaning towards no explosions just ugly sidewalls
A lot of people use those rims for cross racing so you'll be alright (aside from the ugly sidewalls ).
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No black Nitto S83 and I can't think of anything that will have as much setback and not be silver.
The black Kalloy that came OEM on my Big Block has plenty setback
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Old 04-18-15, 09:46 AM
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There are a ton of black setback seatpost options but I'm pretty sure he's looking for Nitto quality.
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Correct, specifically with two bolt thomson style clamp. They allow precise adjusment of angle and fore/aft position and stay put. After years of fighting cheaper posts and interior designs, i tried a thomson. I have not bought anything other than a Thomson stem or post since. I don't need lots of setback specifically, just not a straight post. Ill stick with the nitto s-83 for now.

Function over form and all.
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Scrod,

If I were to order a set of wheels (flip/flop hub) from you, what components should I be looking at?? My budget is a bit over $350 and would prefer black to go with my color scheme. These wheels would be for my Bianchi I am building up.

You got some of my money last week, looks like you're gonna get more. Thanks!!
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No black Nitto S83 and I can't think of anything that will have as much setback and not be silver.
FWIW, Velo Orange told me that the Grand Cru would be available in Black this Spring. Of course they told me that in December and Spring is here, so........
@Flatulentfox you might give them a call and see what their projected time frame is now. It's a good post and unlike the Thomson, I think the bend is probably high enough for your needs.

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I will keep an eye out for the VO. Thanks for the heads up.
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Was thinking of picking up an additional wheel-set b/c my current are junk.

Found a pair of Paul Hubs/H+S Archetypes (w/ All-city Cog/Lockring) for $375. Seems like a good deal???

but what I am concerned about is the combo with my SRAM Omnium and the chainline + dishing?? I am really new to this concept tbh and been trying to educate myself, I have read some people say this combo causes problems and will not work/create noise etc. etc. Other people have said there is no issue (i think I might have read a post from you too saying you had an Om + Phil Wood combo at one time.)

Looking for some advice.
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Originally Posted by carmavore
Found a pair of Paul Hubs/H+S Archetypes ... saying you had an Om + Phil Wood combo
/notscrod but Phil Wood and Paul are two different hub manufacturers.
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Originally Posted by SpeshulEd
/notscrod but Phil Wood and Paul are two different hub manufacturers.

seriously just derped so hard... thank you. thats my dislexia in action. Honestly I saw a P + L, got excited and skipped between the lines.

Idon't know a lot about Paul but it seems some like them more then Phil.

So Paul (44?) vs Phil (42?) which one works with Omnium? I don't want to jump into a purchase and make a mistake.

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Originally Posted by carmavore
seriously just derped so hard... thank you. thats my dislexia in action. Honestly I saw a P + L, got excited and skipped between the lines.

Idon't know a lot about Paul but it seems some like them more then Phil.

So Paul (44?) vs Phil (42?) which one works with Omnium? I don't want to jump into a purchase and make a mistake.
Because not all brands of cogs produce the same chainline, those numbers don't really mean anything.

Omniums give a 45ish mm chainline. Either one will be fine.

My only beef with Paul hubs it that they don't come fixed/fixed. Because you can safely install a freewheel on fixed threading if need be but can't install a fixed cog & lockring on freewheel threading, fixed/free is useless.

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When are the archetype formula wheels coming in?
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Originally Posted by carmavore
seriously just derped so hard... thank you. thats my dislexia in action. Honestly I saw a P + L, got excited and skipped between the lines.

Idon't know a lot about Paul but it seems some like them more then Phil.

So Paul (44?) vs Phil (42?) which one works with Omnium? I don't want to jump into a purchase and make a mistake.
just a heads up i ran omnis and paul hubs with a goldmedal cog and due to the extra two mm's of random offset paul has the finish wore along the side prematurely due to chainline offset.
it doesnt affect the ride that much but if you dont want your $100 cog to look less flashy, i recommend going with something else for hubs. at least for rear.

you can run spacers but its not ideal or pretty
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Originally Posted by brabham79
just a heads up i ran omnis and paul hubs with a goldmedal cog and due to the extra two mm's of random offset paul has the finish wore along the side prematurely due to chainline offset.
it doesnt affect the ride that much but if you dont want your $100 cog to look less flashy, i recommend going with something else for hubs. at least for rear.

you can run spacers but its not ideal or pretty

yeah to me (i truly don't know any better) but that doesn't sound ideal...

I had originally bought a Surly Fixed/Fixed Hub which has a 42.5mm chain-line with the intension of working with the omomnom. So maybe I shouldn't buy this wheelset?
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Originally Posted by carmavore
yeah to me (i truly don't know any better) but that doesn't sound ideal...

I had originally bought a Surly Fixed/Fixed Hub which has a 42.5mm chain-line with the intension of working with the omomnom. So maybe I shouldn't buy this wheelset?
buy what you want and build em up yourself fun and satisfying
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Hey Scrod. I have this old front wheel with a Velocity Deep V tubular rim, and want to rebuild it with a Deep V clincher rim, re-using the same spokes. Will the ERD be the same so that it uses the same spoke length ?
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Hey Scrod. I have this old front wheel with a Velocity Deep V tubular rim, and want to rebuild it with a Deep V clincher rim, re-using the same spokes. Will the ERD be the same so that it uses the same spoke length ?
I've rebuilt elite veeps.
They're the same.

Another random factoid: you can replace high flange phil with 7600 high flange and use the same spokes assuming you keep the same rim.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
Hey Scrod. I have this old front wheel with a Velocity Deep V tubular rim, and want to rebuild it with a Deep V clincher rim, re-using the same spokes. Will the ERD be the same so that it uses the same spoke length ?
Yes, so long as you can clean the thread of any spoke prep that may have been used the first time.
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I will keep an eye out for the VO. Thanks for the heads up.
I communicated with VO yesterday about an unrelated issue, but asked about the post since I was connected. They said they expect to have them mid May.
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i cant get this ****ing lockring to budge for ****!

i put the cog and lockring on when i got these wheels from you about 2 yrs ago and havent touched it. used grease and didnt hamfist it

advice? i borrowed my buddies HCW-17 and i mightve chipped the hook when it slipped off. **** hurts my hands.
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i cant get this ****ing lockring to budge for ****!

i put the cog and lockring on when i got these wheels from you about 2 yrs ago and havent touched it. used grease and didnt hamfist it

advice? i borrowed my buddies HCW-17 and i mightve chipped the hook when it slipped off. **** hurts my hands.
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theyve been on my list a while but since i havent been riding the fg i havent really needed it, ill have to grab one when i change out the leader then

any word on that damn saddle yet? did they push the eta back again?
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Scrod,

got out an order for a Soma Rush frame set heading your way. Can't wait til it gets to NC.

Later.
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Dear scrod,

Lockring spanner and pliers aside, would you be able to source other offerings from the rest of Hozan's tool catalog?
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Lockring spanner and pliers aside, would you be able to source other offerings from the rest of Hozan's tool catalog?
Yup.
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