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yummygooey 12-07-11 08:52 PM

I don't think the previous owner had this head tube reamed/faced before he installed the original headset. Derpin'.

I had my Kilo reamed/faced and the headset seated beautifully even though the cups started out completely cock-eyed.

Scrodzilla 12-07-11 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by calv (Post 13576265)
OK. Update. Something confused me on the Art of Wheelbuilding.

I followed what it said, and put a spoke through (head facing out) and put it in the hole to the left of the valve stem hole. I notice on the diagram, it has a spoke in the SECOND hole, and in the "8th" hole in the hub. I did that, ended up not having enough odd hub holes to fill in the last spoke. So I took it out, redid it without the spoke into the second hole, and it seems fine.

Am I on track or did I miss something cruciaL?

****...calv...I don't remember, are you lacing 2X? If so, you need to put the second spoke in the SIXTH hole, not the 8th (see the little block diagram referring to number of crossings on page 67 in the book).

2X is tricky at first but go slow. You'll get it.

VincentLe 12-07-11 09:05 PM

Hello Mr. Scrod. :D What is your opinion on the Velosole chainring sold at the retro-gression shop, as compared to the FSA chainring? I'm looking for a solid 144 bcd chainring to replace the stock Omnium one, and those looked as good as any.

(I tried to PM this, but... I just realized I can't PM until 50 posts. Sighh.)

calv 12-07-11 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 13576328)
****...calv...you're lacing 2X. You need to put the second spoke in the SIXTH hole, not the 8th (see the little block diagram referring to number of crossings on page 67 in the book).

2X is tricky at first but go slow. You'll get it.

Just a question, does Velomine do 3x or 2x lacing? Maybe I can use my 32h Sun M13 as a reference.

calv 12-07-11 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 13576328)
****...calv...I don't remember, are you lacing 2X? If so, you need to put the second spoke in the SIXTH hole, not the 8th (see the little block diagram referring to number of crossings on page 67 in the book).

2X is tricky at first but go slow. You'll get it.

No, I'm doing 3x.

Heres a pic of what I have so far:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7142/6...bc327861_b.jpg

yummygooey 12-07-11 09:37 PM

Haha lacing is so tricky the first couple times.

TejanoTrackie 12-07-11 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by calv (Post 13576406)
No, I'm doing 3x.

Heres a pic of what I have so far:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7142/6...bc327861_b.jpg

You've got the crossing spoke in backwards. Feed the remaining spokes on that side from the inside of the hub, so the spokes are on the outside.

calv 12-07-11 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 13576466)
You've got the crossing spoke in backwards. Feed the remaining spokes on that side from the inside of the hub, so the spokes are on the outside.

So I'm good then? I'm doing 3x lacing, are you sure I should put it back into the eighth hole?

calv 12-07-11 10:15 PM

Thanks!

calv 12-07-11 10:54 PM

Update:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6...cc820e3c_b.jpg

Everything look good? :D

skadoosh 12-08-11 06:41 AM

Do you own Retro-gression or do you just work there? I love the idea of it by the way. Selling only stuff you can get behind or use yourselves. I wish more shops would do that.

cc700 12-08-11 06:49 AM

he owns it

Scrodzilla 12-08-11 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by calv (Post 13576671)

Looking good now calv. Apologies for disappearing last night. We were out and I ended up having no phone service where we were.

If you run into any further snags, call me at the number on the RG site.

skadoosh 12-08-11 08:02 AM

Scrod do you know of any silver/chrome bartape that is durable? All the ones I found out about like (soma), people say the finish wears off very quickly. Or is there another way I can achieve a chrome silver handlebar look?

Scrodzilla 12-08-11 08:39 AM

I have no idea. I've never messed with that stuff.

QStorm 12-08-11 01:27 PM

Sorry for the late reply. Thanks Scrod, Markaitch and Striknein for the assists. I think I'm going to go with the Windsor Timeline with a wheelset and saddle swap. I'm still leaning towards the the juilian wheelset but I need to do a little more thinking on the velomine one cause I've heard nothing but good things about velomine. I really would prefer 48 spoke wheels. Anyhow, thanks guys...

chantymac 12-08-11 01:32 PM

Hey Scrod,
Can I use oversized bars on my kilo, provided I have a stem with the correct clamp size and a shim for the steerer tube? If so, will this affect the handling?

illdthedj 12-08-11 01:46 PM

hi scrod i have a brake to brake lever question:

so i have some older but aero shimano 600 brake levers. no springs however. i dont think these ones came with them...

anywho i installed one to the front brake, an ultegra.
the lever return seems...clammy. like when you actuate it, it seems to be slow on the return. no me gusta.

its a new cable, and i've used a synthetic lubricant on all joints of the lever and brake. i would figure the brake lever itself would be spring enough to return the lever to position quickly.

any ideas?
or should i just bite the bullet and buy some newer, spring return brake levers?

Scrodzilla 12-08-11 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by chantymac (Post 13578808)
Hey Scrod,
Can I use oversized bars on my kilo, provided I have a stem with the correct clamp size and a shim for the steerer tube? If so, will this affect the handling?

Stem length will have an effect of handling, not switching to an oversize clamp.

Scrodzilla 12-08-11 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by illdthedj (Post 13578869)
hi scrod i have a brake to brake lever question:

so i have some older but aero shimano 600 brake levers. no springs however. i dont think these ones came with them...

anywho i installed one to the front brake, an ultegra.
the lever return seems...clammy. like when you actuate it, it seems to be slow on the return. no me gusta.

its a new cable, and i've used a synthetic lubricant on all joints of the lever and brake. i would figure the brake lever itself would be spring enough to return the lever to position quickly.

any ideas?
or should i just bite the bullet and buy some newer, spring return brake levers?

Does the caliper release with ease when you squeeze it with your hand? If so, it's likely that those old levers are just worn - especially if you're using new cable/hosing with no kinks anywhere.

illdthedj 12-08-11 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 13578931)
Does the caliper release with ease when you squeeze it with your hand? If so, it's likely that those old levers are just worn - especially if you're using new cable/hosing with no kinks anywhere.

yah the caliper is real springy. which was why i was like WTF about the lever being so jammy. yah new cable, no kinks or anything. i guess the levers are just super old. oh well. a waste of 10 bux on ebay, i just thought the pantographed 'shimano 600' levers looked purty. i wonder if i can take those off and put on another hood or something.

probably just buy a new set of tektros or the new shimano ones. maybe teh cane creeks.

any suggestions for good hood brakes?

yummygooey 12-08-11 03:52 PM

Sram!

homebrewk 12-08-11 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by yummygooey (Post 13579410)
Sram!

+1

yummygooey 12-08-11 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by hairnet (Post 13579422)
What's weird is that the SRAM levers aren't spring return. Shimano introduced spring return levers (SLR) in the 80s

Oh yea I totally forgot about this.

The Cane Creeks SCR5's are nice, too. I have SCR5c's, which just have a more compact lever bend for smaller hands.

Scrodzilla 12-08-11 04:50 PM

I love how hairnet keeps posting and deleting his posts. :lol:

hairnet 12-08-11 04:58 PM

Yeah, I havent been feeling very confident :o

My girlfriend clowns on how I edit my posts for the smallest things:crash:

onezerozeroone 12-08-11 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by illdthedj (Post 13579281)
any suggestions for good hood brakes?

TRP RRL's. seriously.

calv 12-08-11 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 13577299)
Looking good now calv. Apologies for disappearing last night. We were out and I ended up having no phone service where we were.

If you run into any further snags, call me at the number on the RG site.

Man, no problem atall. I'm just happy you even helped lol. I built my rear wheel and decided to continue later. Spokes feel like noodles. How should o proceed now?

Scrodzilla 12-08-11 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by calv (Post 13580351)
Man, no problem atall. I'm just happy you even helped lol. I built my rear wheel and decided to continue later. Spokes feel like noodles. How should o proceed now?

Slowly. Mark a starting spoke with a piece of tape and go around the wheel, tightening spokes as you go. Start off with one full turn of the nipple and repeat this until they start to get tighter. As they begin to tighten, start doing half turns, then quarter turns. Keep checking during this whole process that your rim isn't becoming egg-shaped and when necessary, refer to the book.

calv 12-08-11 08:39 PM

Thanks


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