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#1851
Hey Dave,
I got my lbs to let me borrow their spoke wrench. The guy gave me the black park tool one, has a little 0 on the head. Is that the right size for these Sapim nipples?
I got my lbs to let me borrow their spoke wrench. The guy gave me the black park tool one, has a little 0 on the head. Is that the right size for these Sapim nipples?
#1852
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Your cog is slipping.



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Yes it is!
#1854
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Scrod, do I need to get my head tube faced? This is the farthest I can get the cup pressed in... it makes contact at the front of the HT but not the rear.
If so, should I wait until I get my CK headset back or just get it done now?
If so, should I wait until I get my CK headset back or just get it done now?
#1855
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Your cog is slipping.



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What frame is that? Unless that head tube has a lot of extra material hanging from the edges, facing/reaming a head tube will have more effect on the alignment of the headset cups than how far they'll go in.
#1856
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It's my Ti road frame. I was using a Park Tool HHP-2 to get the cups in (one at a time), but this is as far as I can get it because the front of cup contacts the frame but not the rear of the cup (as pictured).
#1857
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Your cog is slipping.



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You may need to have the head tube reamed, as the cup may not be sliding in straight. A crooked cup will put unnecessary strain on your bearings.
#1858
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Should I get that done now or just wait until I install the King (1-2 months... I'll ride this bike in that time but idk how much cuz it's COLD)? Or is the effect of repeated removals/installations of cups negligible on the interference fit?
#1859
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Your cog is slipping.



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Unless headset removal or installation is done horribly wrong, a head tube is typically only reamed when the frame is new - before installing a headset for the first time. If you're not planning on keeping that Cane Creek in there long, it should be okay to wait a little while.
#1860
OK. Update. Something confused me on the Art of Wheelbuilding.
I followed what it said, and put a spoke through (head facing out) and put it in the hole to the left of the valve stem hole. I notice on the diagram, it has a spoke in the SECOND hole, and in the "8th" hole in the hub. I did that, ended up not having enough odd hub holes to fill in the last spoke. So I took it out, redid it without the spoke into the second hole, and it seems fine.
Am I on track or did I miss something cruciaL?
I followed what it said, and put a spoke through (head facing out) and put it in the hole to the left of the valve stem hole. I notice on the diagram, it has a spoke in the SECOND hole, and in the "8th" hole in the hub. I did that, ended up not having enough odd hub holes to fill in the last spoke. So I took it out, redid it without the spoke into the second hole, and it seems fine.
Am I on track or did I miss something cruciaL?
#1861
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I don't think the previous owner had this head tube reamed/faced before he installed the original headset. Derpin'.
I had my Kilo reamed/faced and the headset seated beautifully even though the cups started out completely cock-eyed.
I had my Kilo reamed/faced and the headset seated beautifully even though the cups started out completely cock-eyed.
#1862
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Your cog is slipping.



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OK. Update. Something confused me on the Art of Wheelbuilding.
I followed what it said, and put a spoke through (head facing out) and put it in the hole to the left of the valve stem hole. I notice on the diagram, it has a spoke in the SECOND hole, and in the "8th" hole in the hub. I did that, ended up not having enough odd hub holes to fill in the last spoke. So I took it out, redid it without the spoke into the second hole, and it seems fine.
Am I on track or did I miss something cruciaL?
I followed what it said, and put a spoke through (head facing out) and put it in the hole to the left of the valve stem hole. I notice on the diagram, it has a spoke in the SECOND hole, and in the "8th" hole in the hub. I did that, ended up not having enough odd hub holes to fill in the last spoke. So I took it out, redid it without the spoke into the second hole, and it seems fine.
Am I on track or did I miss something cruciaL?
2X is tricky at first but go slow. You'll get it.
Last edited by Scrodzilla; 12-07-11 at 09:19 PM.
#1863
Hello Mr. Scrod.
What is your opinion on the Velosole chainring sold at the retro-gression shop, as compared to the FSA chainring? I'm looking for a solid 144 bcd chainring to replace the stock Omnium one, and those looked as good as any.
(I tried to PM this, but... I just realized I can't PM until 50 posts. Sighh.)
What is your opinion on the Velosole chainring sold at the retro-gression shop, as compared to the FSA chainring? I'm looking for a solid 144 bcd chainring to replace the stock Omnium one, and those looked as good as any.(I tried to PM this, but... I just realized I can't PM until 50 posts. Sighh.)
#1864
Just a question, does Velomine do 3x or 2x lacing? Maybe I can use my 32h Sun M13 as a reference.
#1866
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Haha lacing is so tricky the first couple times.
#1867
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You've got the crossing spoke in backwards. Feed the remaining spokes on that side from the inside of the hub, so the spokes are on the outside.
#1869
#1871
Do you own Retro-gression or do you just work there? I love the idea of it by the way. Selling only stuff you can get behind or use yourselves. I wish more shops would do that.
#1873
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Your cog is slipping.



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#1874
Scrod do you know of any silver/chrome bartape that is durable? All the ones I found out about like (soma), people say the finish wears off very quickly. Or is there another way I can achieve a chrome silver handlebar look?
#1875
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Your cog is slipping.



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I have no idea. I've never messed with that stuff.




