lightweight track hubs?
12-09-11 | 10:30 AM
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lightweight track hubs?
So while searching for a lightweight rear hub, I come across this listing on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Novatec-Rear...ht_1786wt_1037
listed weight = 200g rear 110g front "without bolts"
the site doesn't list a model number for hubs, but does that seem balpark for the hubs?
I'm thinking these hubs, iro cold fusion rims, and sapim laser spokes ought to leave me around 1600g for the weight at under $200. not bad eh?
any lighter hubs on the market at the same price point?
might even go with a road front hub @66g!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-UltraLig...ht_2840wt_1037
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Novatec-Rear...ht_1786wt_1037
listed weight = 200g rear 110g front "without bolts"
the site doesn't list a model number for hubs, but does that seem balpark for the hubs?
I'm thinking these hubs, iro cold fusion rims, and sapim laser spokes ought to leave me around 1600g for the weight at under $200. not bad eh?
any lighter hubs on the market at the same price point?
might even go with a road front hub @66g!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-UltraLig...ht_2840wt_1037
12-09-11 | 10:33 AM
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Those numbers seem way off. Unless the bolts weigh 90ish grams a set...
Scrod's site (https://www.retro-gression.com/produc...atec-build-kit) puts those hubs at 204g/front, 282g/rear.
Scrod's site (https://www.retro-gression.com/produc...atec-build-kit) puts those hubs at 204g/front, 282g/rear.
12-09-11 | 10:33 AM
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You can order direct from here. https://www.bdopcycling.com/Index.asp
The ultralight hubs will be part of my CX race wheels for next season.
The ultralight hubs will be part of my CX race wheels for next season.
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12-09-11 | 10:35 AM
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Novatec's web site puts the front at 186g and the rear at 262g.
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12-09-11 | 10:47 AM
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ahhhh, thanks guys.
figured the weight was too good to be true. with the rotaz front hub I should still be able to get 'em under 1600. maybe even go with a lower spoke count on the front
figured the weight was too good to be true. with the rotaz front hub I should still be able to get 'em under 1600. maybe even go with a lower spoke count on the front
12-09-11 | 11:02 AM
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12-09-11 | 11:22 AM
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For the record - the weight listed on the RG site is including axle nuts and based upon weighing the hubs myself.
And yeah - ordering anything from IRO most likely won't happen.
And yeah - ordering anything from IRO most likely won't happen.
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12-09-11 | 11:28 AM
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higher spoke count with lighter spokes and lighter rim makes for a lighter wheel.
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12-09-11 | 02:52 PM
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In fact even that seems optimistic, because I have wheels with Novatec small flange hubs (32 h) and their weight was 194 g front and 243 g rear with track nuts.
But if you are looking for really lightweight track hubs (and do not mind waiting a few months), check https://www.mackhubs.com/
But if you are looking for really lightweight track hubs (and do not mind waiting a few months), check https://www.mackhubs.com/
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12-09-11 | 03:12 PM
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But if you are looking for really lightweight track hubs (and do not mind waiting a few months and paying nearly $400), check https://www.mackhubs.com/
12-09-11 | 06:48 PM
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12-10-11 | 01:51 AM
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Hm, LF hubs w/single fixed rear hub with shipping to U.S. would be 218 € --> roughly $ 292. Do you have to pay custom fees when ordering from Europe?
About their website...couple of years ago there was, like, some pictures and an email address for enquiring the prices and ordering, so there has been at least some progress
About their website...couple of years ago there was, like, some pictures and an email address for enquiring the prices and ordering, so there has been at least some progress
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12-10-11 | 08:35 AM
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Kinlin xr200's have definitely crossed my mind, but I am afraid to run them at 245lbs. I'll be running 32 spokes in the rear, but I've been thinking I might try 28 or 24 in the front.
might go with xr300s...
In fact even that seems optimistic, because I have wheels with Novatec small flange hubs (32 h) and their weight was 194 g front and 243 g rear with track nuts.
But if you are looking for really lightweight track hubs (and do not mind waiting a few months), check https://www.mackhubs.com/
But if you are looking for really lightweight track hubs (and do not mind waiting a few months), check https://www.mackhubs.com/
and the macks look nice but I'm budgeting myself at $300 for the entire wheelset
and the am classics are nice, but would put me over budget
12-10-11 | 05:03 PM
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Bdop might be able to order you some.
https://bdopcycling.com/Hubs-FGSS.asp
get the rear hub(Am Classic)and a road front hub.
12-10-11 | 08:17 PM
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2x Kinlin xr200 770g
64x Sapim laser spokes 279g
64x Sapim brass nipples 20g???
1x Rotaz front hub 66g
1x American Classic rear hub 180g
Total weight: 1316g (w/o front skewer or cog and lockring)
Cost: $386
Total weight with Novatec rear hub: 1418g
Cost: $286
hmmmmm...
64x Sapim laser spokes 279g
64x Sapim brass nipples 20g???
1x Rotaz front hub 66g
1x American Classic rear hub 180g
Total weight: 1316g (w/o front skewer or cog and lockring)
Cost: $386
Total weight with Novatec rear hub: 1418g
Cost: $286
hmmmmm...
12-11-11 | 02:21 AM
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I've heard of people having some trouble with american classic hubs. Not those in particular, but i'd check out some reveiws/talk to some people before lacing them up.
+2 cents. lace it up with some decent sturdy spoke nipples, especially if you ride hard/in inclimate weather. I've went to true wheels before and just had the nipples turn to dust. The weight you'd save just isnt worth it I don't think. Most people tend to bypass nipples and spokes as sort of just there, when merely having an experienced wheel builder lace a wheel up with some quality spokes can drastically change the way a wheel perfrorms. Also if you are inexperienced with wheel building, it is pretty difficult to do very well and having a "professional" do it may be well worth it. Id poke around and see if there are any shops that do any low key celeb bikes or if there are any mechanics around that do wheel builds for higher profile riders, that would be your go to man, as they would know more about certain products and how they perform under tougher riding, as well as how they hold up in the long run. A good mechanic that you trust is well worth paying him for his service I think, and once you develop a relationship most mechanics will help you out as much as they can.
good luck with everything!
hope this post helps in some way.
+2 cents. lace it up with some decent sturdy spoke nipples, especially if you ride hard/in inclimate weather. I've went to true wheels before and just had the nipples turn to dust. The weight you'd save just isnt worth it I don't think. Most people tend to bypass nipples and spokes as sort of just there, when merely having an experienced wheel builder lace a wheel up with some quality spokes can drastically change the way a wheel perfrorms. Also if you are inexperienced with wheel building, it is pretty difficult to do very well and having a "professional" do it may be well worth it. Id poke around and see if there are any shops that do any low key celeb bikes or if there are any mechanics around that do wheel builds for higher profile riders, that would be your go to man, as they would know more about certain products and how they perform under tougher riding, as well as how they hold up in the long run. A good mechanic that you trust is well worth paying him for his service I think, and once you develop a relationship most mechanics will help you out as much as they can.
good luck with everything!
hope this post helps in some way.
12-11-11 | 02:58 AM
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2x Kinlin xr200 770g
64x Sapim laser spokes 279g
64x Sapim brass nipples 20g???
1x Rotaz front hub 66g
1x American Classic rear hub 180g
Total weight: 1316g (w/o front skewer or cog and lockring)
Cost: $386
Total weight with Novatec rear hub: 1418g
Cost: $286
hmmmmm...
64x Sapim laser spokes 279g
64x Sapim brass nipples 20g???
1x Rotaz front hub 66g
1x American Classic rear hub 180g
Total weight: 1316g (w/o front skewer or cog and lockring)
Cost: $386
Total weight with Novatec rear hub: 1418g
Cost: $286
hmmmmm...
12-11-11 | 08:14 AM
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I've heard of people having some trouble with american classic hubs. Not those in particular, but i'd check out some reveiws/talk to some people before lacing them up.
+2 cents. lace it up with some decent sturdy spoke nipples, especially if you ride hard/in inclimate weather. I've went to true wheels before and just had the nipples turn to dust. The weight you'd save just isnt worth it I don't think. Most people tend to bypass nipples and spokes as sort of just there, when merely having an experienced wheel builder lace a wheel up with some quality spokes can drastically change the way a wheel perfrorms. Also if you are inexperienced with wheel building, it is pretty difficult to do very well and having a "professional" do it may be well worth it. Id poke around and see if there are any shops that do any low key celeb bikes or if there are any mechanics around that do wheel builds for higher profile riders, that would be your go to man, as they would know more about certain products and how they perform under tougher riding, as well as how they hold up in the long run. A good mechanic that you trust is well worth paying him for his service I think, and once you develop a relationship most mechanics will help you out as much as they can.
good luck with everything!
hope this post helps in some way.
+2 cents. lace it up with some decent sturdy spoke nipples, especially if you ride hard/in inclimate weather. I've went to true wheels before and just had the nipples turn to dust. The weight you'd save just isnt worth it I don't think. Most people tend to bypass nipples and spokes as sort of just there, when merely having an experienced wheel builder lace a wheel up with some quality spokes can drastically change the way a wheel perfrorms. Also if you are inexperienced with wheel building, it is pretty difficult to do very well and having a "professional" do it may be well worth it. Id poke around and see if there are any shops that do any low key celeb bikes or if there are any mechanics around that do wheel builds for higher profile riders, that would be your go to man, as they would know more about certain products and how they perform under tougher riding, as well as how they hold up in the long run. A good mechanic that you trust is well worth paying him for his service I think, and once you develop a relationship most mechanics will help you out as much as they can.
good luck with everything!
hope this post helps in some way.
and as far as building wheels goes, I have built a couple sets for myself this year, and both have been great for me. I couldn't imagine paying someone else to do it for me. I enjoy it too much! lol Main purpose for these wheels will be at the track. I have some weinmanns/formula for any street riding
ahhh yes. I figure the difference between the novatecs and am classics will be negligible, but I also don't want the urge to upgrade.
