Today I (v2):
01-26-15 | 04:42 AM
#9451
THE STUFFED
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,671
Likes: 21
From: San Francisco, CA
Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone Gen 8
01-26-15 | 06:58 AM
#9452
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,337
Likes: 3
From: CLE-OH
Bikes: '84 Basso Pista, Masi Heinz '57 SS beater. Couple Stingrays...
I hate walking into a bike shop and seeing tires lined up, hanging up high in the front window, baking in the sun. There are a couple shops like that here.
Scrod, when did you move out to San Diego? The guy who started/owns Spin Cycles here in Cleveland, Greg, relocated to the Boston area about 4 years ago, was wondering if you knew him, or met him ever.
Scrod, when did you move out to San Diego? The guy who started/owns Spin Cycles here in Cleveland, Greg, relocated to the Boston area about 4 years ago, was wondering if you knew him, or met him ever.
01-26-15 | 12:09 PM
#9453
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 367
Likes: 37
From: Telford, PA
Bikes: Pinarello FP Due, Cesare track bike modified for the street.
I got in 33 fixed gear miles yesterday in 39°F warmth. It was nice to know all that is wet was water. Today I am in the path of the Nor'easter that is bearing down on the mid-Atlantic area. I am afraid yesterday was the last ride for a bit. At least the last ride on the track bike.
Ride Safe,
Joe
Ride Safe,
Joe
01-26-15 | 01:29 PM
#9455
THE STUFFED
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,671
Likes: 21
From: San Francisco, CA
Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone Gen 8
So awhile back I posted how philwood cogs are no-go's w/ the izumi super toughness-V if you don't want excessive chain noise. On a whim, I emailed philwood support over this issue regarding how their machined cog (with the notches) teeth mesh with chains vs its competitors and they sent me this reply:
So essentially what they're saying is this is normal (they mesh too well) and what I should do is run a more slack chain....
I also asked what chain they suggest and to my surprise they suggested the exact chain I had tried running it with with dastardly results. And the other chain they mention is pretty obscure over on this side of the globe.
Our cogs are made to specific tolerances that we stand by, so by running a stiff chain with no flexibility to it, it can create some noise, so lets say you run a less expensive production run cog these can be undersized giving more move ability for the chain. So by running our cog, it is best to run a high quality chain but still have some flexibility to the chain, the other thing is to confirm you chain line is correct.
The best chain we seen was the Gusset espresso chain, not sure if this available any more, the other chain we liked was the Izumi V-Super Toughness Track chain, that is if you are running the 1/8 inch size chain. We hope some of this info was helpful to you.
The best chain we seen was the Gusset espresso chain, not sure if this available any more, the other chain we liked was the Izumi V-Super Toughness Track chain, that is if you are running the 1/8 inch size chain. We hope some of this info was helpful to you.
I also asked what chain they suggest and to my surprise they suggested the exact chain I had tried running it with with dastardly results. And the other chain they mention is pretty obscure over on this side of the globe.
01-26-15 | 04:06 PM
#9456
Brown Jersey Winner
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 8,797
Likes: 13
From: The Bad Woods.
today despite being poor i decided i need to put a dynamo hub on my ogre project when i build it, and build a custom led setup to go with it
so i just spent the last 2 hrs researching that
so i just spent the last 2 hrs researching that
01-26-15 | 06:31 PM
#9457
What are you looking at?
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From: The Golden State
Bikes: Fairdale Parser
Today I worked. I also decided for sure that I'm going to use some of my tax return to finally build up a new bike. Been slowly planning and researching for months.
01-27-15 | 10:49 AM
#9460
Your cog is slipping.
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
Likes: 100
From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
I hate walking into a bike shop and seeing tires lined up, hanging up high in the front window, baking in the sun. There are a couple shops like that here.
Scrod, when did you move out to San Diego? The guy who started/owns Spin Cycles here in Cleveland, Greg, relocated to the Boston area about 4 years ago, was wondering if you knew him, or met him ever.
Scrod, when did you move out to San Diego? The guy who started/owns Spin Cycles here in Cleveland, Greg, relocated to the Boston area about 4 years ago, was wondering if you knew him, or met him ever.
We moved here last November.
I didn't really spend too much time in the city so I probably don't know the guy you're talking about.
01-27-15 | 11:33 AM
#9461
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,861
Likes: 41
From: Coeur d' Alene
Bikes: 3 Chinese Gas Pipe Nerdcycles and 2 Chicago Electroforged Boat Anchors
Our cogs are made to specific tolerances that we stand by, so by running a stiff chain with no flexibility to it, it can create some noise, so lets say you run a less expensive production run cog these can be undersized giving more move ability for the chain. So by running our cog, it is best to run a high quality chain but still have some flexibility to the chain, the other thing is to confirm you chain line is correct.
The best chain we seen was the Gusset espresso chain, not sure if this available any more, the other chain we liked was the Izumi V-Super Toughness Track chain, that is if you are running the 1/8 inch size chain. We hope some of this info was helpful to you.
The best chain we seen was the Gusset espresso chain, not sure if this available any more, the other chain we liked was the Izumi V-Super Toughness Track chain, that is if you are running the 1/8 inch size chain. We hope some of this info was helpful to you.
Oh, and of course, it's you, your chainline, and your chain, the cog must be perfect.
I called Chris King one time when I was trying to decide if I should splurge on one of their headsets and had a few questions. I was treated like a Communist spy. I bought an FSA headset. It works great.
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01-27-15 | 11:47 AM
#9462
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 2,750
Likes: 149
From: SD
Bikes: Handsome Fredward, Trek 1.1
May have convinced my long-time best friend to drive our vehicle for RAGBRAI. I keep trying to give him every out possible but he says he's totally on board. That haul back from Davenport is gonna suck.
01-27-15 | 12:13 PM
#9463
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,337
Likes: 3
From: CLE-OH
Bikes: '84 Basso Pista, Masi Heinz '57 SS beater. Couple Stingrays...
01-27-15 | 02:40 PM
#9464
Brown Jersey Winner
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 8,797
Likes: 13
From: The Bad Woods.
i emailed him once and he seemed nice to me, i had questions about the r45 compared to their ISO disc hub and he seemed pretty forthcoming with the deets, and told me about the r45 disc was coming out in a couple months (from the time of the email)
01-27-15 | 03:52 PM
#9465
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,861
Likes: 41
From: Coeur d' Alene
Bikes: 3 Chinese Gas Pipe Nerdcycles and 2 Chicago Electroforged Boat Anchors
I didn't speak with Chris King himself. Their literature doesn't specify which grade aluminum was used in their headsets, so I asked if it was 6061 or 7075, and which grade. I was told that it was a proprietary blend made only for them, and they wouldn't release that info. I said that I didn't want the actual recipe, but asked if they could give me a hardness rating. The guy on the phone ratcheted up the condescending elitist tone and said those specs are never revealed. Whatever.....I bailed.
01-27-15 | 03:57 PM
#9466
THE STUFFED
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,671
Likes: 21
From: San Francisco, CA
Bikes: R. Sachs Simplicity; EAI Bareknuckle; Madone Gen 8
I didn't speak with Chris King himself. Their literature doesn't specify which grade aluminum was used in their headsets, so I asked if it was 6061 or 7075, and which grade. I was told that it was a proprietary blend made only for them, and they wouldn't release that info. I said that I didn't want the actual recipe, but asked if they could give me a hardness rating. The guy on the phone ratcheted up the condescending elitist tone and said those specs are never revealed. Whatever.....I bailed.
01-27-15 | 03:59 PM
#9467
The space coyote lied.
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 48,792
Likes: 11,008
From: dusk 'til dawn.
Bikes: everywhere
I didn't speak with Chris King himself. Their literature doesn't specify which grade aluminum was used in their headsets, so I asked if it was 6061 or 7075, and which grade. I was told that it was a proprietary blend made only for them, and they wouldn't release that info. I said that I didn't want the actual recipe, but asked if they could give me a hardness rating. The guy on the phone ratcheted up the condescending elitist tone and said those specs are never revealed. Whatever.....I bailed.
01-27-15 | 04:11 PM
#9468
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,861
Likes: 41
From: Coeur d' Alene
Bikes: 3 Chinese Gas Pipe Nerdcycles and 2 Chicago Electroforged Boat Anchors
01-27-15 | 04:15 PM
#9469
The space coyote lied.
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 48,792
Likes: 11,008
From: dusk 'til dawn.
Bikes: everywhere
01-27-15 | 04:18 PM
#9470
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 907
Likes: 13
From: Portland / ME
Bikes: CAAD10/Wabi
Today while out on a blizzard walk I saw a guy bombing down one of the hills on a fat bike, I am jealous.
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01-27-15 | 04:22 PM
#9471
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,861
Likes: 41
From: Coeur d' Alene
Bikes: 3 Chinese Gas Pipe Nerdcycles and 2 Chicago Electroforged Boat Anchors
Nope, not this guy. Articulate and well trained. He'd done that drill before. There are some people that I can talk around, to get where I want to go. I didn't even engage this guy because I could immediately read him as a hard core stop gap. He was an "Escalation Prevention Specialist", not a customer service employee.
01-27-15 | 04:23 PM
#9472
Veteran Racer
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,855
Likes: 913
From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Bikes: 34 frames + 80 wheels
I didn't speak with Chris King himself. Their literature doesn't specify which grade aluminum was used in their headsets, so I asked if it was 6061 or 7075, and which grade. I was told that it was a proprietary blend made only for them, and they wouldn't release that info. I said that I didn't want the actual recipe, but asked if they could give me a hardness rating. The guy on the phone ratcheted up the condescending elitist tone and said those specs are never revealed. Whatever.....I bailed.
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01-27-15 | 04:29 PM
#9473
Calamari Marionette Ph.D
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,861
Likes: 41
From: Coeur d' Alene
Bikes: 3 Chinese Gas Pipe Nerdcycles and 2 Chicago Electroforged Boat Anchors
The cups and centering rings are not made of steel. Ever hear of brinelling?
01-27-15 | 04:31 PM
#9475
Veteran Racer
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,855
Likes: 913
From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Bikes: 34 frames + 80 wheels
On a separate and far more relevant topic, today the weather down here was absolutely awesome, mid to upper 70s, clear sunny sky, very light to calm winds, low humidity. Since I'm retired and don't have to spend my life cooped up inside at some stupid job, I got to ride my Dolan Pre Cursa on a nice 30 mile country jaunt. I'd forgotten how nice this bike really rides, and how sporty it feels. 