those IRO track frames,and others alike that all these daelers sell us just cost a misely $125.00,then intern sell it for $300.up!

thats the best part of supply/demand and owning a business. You're purpose is to make a profit.



i wouldnt buy an iro just because i dont like the way they all tend to look the same.... but i cant talk **** about the guy because hes making a profit on a product.

is this a joke?

have you ever partaken in any business in which money changed hands before?

As opposed to an pista or langster that comes in a rainbow of colors? all track bikes look the same until you put your personal touch to it. I had no problem buying an IRO considering he's making a lot less than bianchi is making on the pista. If you had a way to give people what they want and still make a profit from it wouldn't you? I fully support Tony because IRO are nice bikes in my opinion and 300 for a decent track frame isn't so bad since italian frames can cost much more. Sure it's probably a higher quality frame, but what's the at cost for the italian framemakers, I wouldn't be surprised that they make a higher profit just because it's italian.

but they will look you in the eye,and tell you they just make $50. on the deal,in reality $200.yeah i no they gootta make profit,its just they understate big time!

Why don't you start your own business and only take a $50 cut per bike then? You'd make a killing.

If you think the price is to high, fold your money back up and put it in your pocket.

and this surprises you how na975? What about the food you eat? Or the clothes you wear? Or the computer you are using?

do you think that people should just give it away for the same cost?
If you don't like the price, don't buy the goods. Simple enough.

And I am curious as to where anyone has said (and it is documented) the markup they have for profit vs. what they "tell" you.
There are costs built into the consumer price: shipping from the factory, painting, roof over business, web fees, etc. Think about the BIG picture, not just you. Believe it or not, IRO does a damn fine job of advertising, pricing, building, and I doubt he is raking in the cash. And why just IRO? Why not Surly or Bianchi or Independent Fabrication?
Sorry bud - none of these are listed as charity organizations.

Hey, anyone know a good non-profit frame-building organization?

Yeah, start building your own frames. No profit there.

cannondale? didnt they go bankrupt? ...no profit

He could always roll his own- buy a kit with lugs and a tubeset. He'll quickly see how NOT far even $250 goes... if he could even build a frame that tracks straight.

Frankly, it the road bike world- $300 buys a decent fork- and nothing else.

I'm just a little annoyed that you picked IRO because I just met Tony yesterday and got my bike from him and I can tell ya he didn't try to make it sound like he's not doing well with the business. The guy just loves fixies and want to get more people on quality affordable fixies. You should check out his warranty, if you kill the frame for whatever reason, he'll trade it in with a new one at half-price, at cost. How can you say someone like that is only trying to make a profit. I'd pick NYCBikes if anything, those guys are the ones you should make an example of.
okay...no more ranting...for now.

whatever!

Zing!

whatever! talk to to the hand.

Ouch...good one.

It looks like he got bashed. How much a retailer pays for an item is none of his business. Shame on the retailer for lying to him. I can see the episode. $300 bucks!!!!! Crap its just a black cromo frame n' fork. Your ripping me off. At this point I'd say, sorry you feel that way, go somewhere else and find it cheaper. Have a nice day. In 30 years of retail almost all of it in bikes in some way or another, I can only remember twice where a person had the auduacity to ask me what my profit was. None in the last 6 years that I have owned a LBS. I'm an IRO dealer and you can buy a frameset from me for the same price you can get it direct from IRO. I eat the shipping.

What the original poster knows about retail and business in general you could put in a fleas navel and still have room for a sesame seed and a red pubic hair.

Good job Wangster.

Yea, The IRO Mark "V"'s are black, but you can get custom color powdercoat from IRO. It might be possible to get a frame/fork in raw form and get it painted to your desires. Having a selection of colors would boost the price. Remember what Henry Ford said..."You can have any color as long as it's black"

your just a crook thats all!

you're just a horrible speller; that's all.

i'm not getting graded on my spelling-heh heh

yes you are. i give you an F-.

why dont you go back to bugging your mom..i think dinners ready

your original post just makes me laugh.. golly-gee, beav! is that how capitalism works? gosh darn..

okay...now we sound like kindergardeners...so ewwww....cooties...

i give you a bigger F