don't need a full groupset besides the new frame is canti or v brakes . wrong combo on chainset looking for 48/34/28.

Yes perfect. The rear derailleur needs to be a long cage to handle the triple front rings. To handle the rear cassette tooth count, something like the Deore M591 would be excellent. Its a 9sp mountain derailleur, so itll work perfectly with the 10sp bar end shifters while handling the chain wrap.

I use these shifters. The front shifting is friction and will work with any crankset / front derailleur combination. Mixed brands. Double derailleur on a triple crank. Triple derailleur on a double crank. 1980s derailleur on a new crankset. It doesn't matter. Get these and forget about your compatibility problems.

You must run a 9 speed Shimano mountain rear derailleur with these shifters. Do not worry about the derailleur being 9 speed. It will work with a 10 speed cassette. Shimano's 10 and 11 speed rear mountain derailleurs use a different cable pull ratio and will not work with these shifters.

I use cheap Tektro brake levers.

CRC recommended the Tiagra 10speed T_4601 or the 9 speed m771 xt, front mech 5703 triple.
so looks like im getting nearer the perfect set up.

anyway i'll settle for that lot thanks a million folks.

anto.

Yeah, the 9sp m771xt would work too. I went with the lower cost Deore suggestion since you mentioned a budget a couple times. But hey, an XT RD shifting an 11-34 should be a great setup.

Thanks mstateglfr only thing i don't like about the XT it has no barrel adjuster for fine tuning gears.
yeah monet is super tight so i have to spend wisely

An in-line brake barrel adjuster midway along the cable works fine for derailleurs, too.

Oh yeah, Im pretty sure Shimano's Shadow derailleurs dont have barrel adjusters. The m592 is the Deore with Shadow tech and it doesnt have a barrel adjuster.


So half the price and has a barrel adjuster like you want...
Shimano Deore M591 9 Speed Rear Mech | Chain Reaction Cycles



Ha, moving on from which rear derailleur you will use, I just looked at the Spa frame. Thats a heck of a deal! $400USD?!? Looks like solid geometry, all the right mounting points, and heat treated cromoly. Nothing wrong with that package.

Not necessarily. These Travel Agents have worked flawlessly for close to 17,000 miles. They are used with Tiagra 9 speed shifters, and Avid Single Digit 7 v-brakes. These are on my wife's bike, and they do stop better than my "high price" cantis. That is what she wanted, so that is what I put on it for her.

fantastic just added it to my wishlist yes it's a good frame gets good reviews the one I'm going for is green ,spa cycles have been around a while only thing i hate about them very slow answering emails.but i guess I'm not there only customer lol.

cheers MAX yes i had them on my sherpa needed them to adjust the XT771. rather not have them to be honest the wee barrell adjuster on rear mech works fine.

You may be able to run 2 out of 3 rings on your crankset, but then there wouldn't really be a big reason to have a triple crankset.

I don't believe Campy differentiates between double and triple shift levers (but does have different front derailleurs). But Shimano does seem to differentiate between double and triple shifters.

Cliffordk it would drive a fella to drink all these different combos ,any new bike i ever bough i always bought full groupset most of the time dura ace only once had campag super record but those days are long gone.
now i hunt for what works best and doesn't cost an arm and a leg to buy .

yeah im going to go with DA barend shifters makes sense.

Many of the discount new bikes I see for sale only use a partial groupset. Typically shifters + derailleurs. Cranksets, bottom brackets, hubs, chains, and cassettes are often mismatched or off-brand.

I find it odd that Shimano only supports indexed downtube shifters in Dura Ace (up to 10s?), and I think the same may be true for bar end shifters. Although, the target buyers for bar end shifters may be the triathlon/time trial bikes.

yes to be honest i don't like off the peg bikes ,i always built my own ,well my son did i just stood over him and annoyed him.
better fun in getting exactly want you want and putting it all together ,god if only i had money i reckon this bike will set me back 12to 1400 euro but its what i want no point in buying rubbish.
it will be months before i get it on the road shortage of money usual story.

Where are you based in Europe?

If its in the UK or you have access to that market, there are lots of nice in-house brand bikes which are a good start. Ribble, Merlins etc. all have decent frame sets (though not specific for heavy touring) and Ribble at least lets you customize the build.

Cheers Inpd im in Ireland .the spa frame is nice well thought out not certain on the weight but it's a tourer so no big deal there can't be any heavier than the Thorn sherpa i once had tha was a great bike but heavy.
the Spa is well within my budget but doesn't leave me with much change to build it up.
would u believe they still haven't emailed me back since last friday
anyway i'll play it by ear no hurry on me.

FD, is pushing the chain shifting it across 3 planes , the chainring disc.. the chain climbs to the diameter of each toothed disc.

Other than where the little short teeth-ramps-pins are located has minor variations , they likely still are taking advantage of the power drop off at BDC of each foot.

I suspect crank brand matters Not a Bit, To the chain, only to the cyclist.




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I'm cheap too, here's what I'm running, bought everything cheap on ebay (lightly used/take offs):

Shifters: Shimano 9 speed bar cons ($40)

Brake levers: Cane Creek (they have v-brake/MTB disc levers for drop bars) ($40)

Crankset: Shimano 4503 ($70 w/bb)

Front Derailleur: bottom/top pull combo, low mount MTB 3x frt (parts bin)

Rear Derailleur: Shimano 9-speed MTB long cage (parts bin)

Yes, but: Shimano Deore M-591 SGS long-cage 9-sp rear derailer has adjuster & is pretty cheap @ $33 USD. Built-in adjuster is convenient for building up a bike with bar-end shifters.