Does this frame look tweaked to you?
08-29-10, 01:59 PM
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Does this frame look tweaked to you?
I'm not looking to buy or anything...it just looks funky to me and I'm trying to hone my eye 
I see a ripple in the top and down tubes right behind the lugs...yet the fork looks straight.
Anyone?
https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/bik/1922925217.html
I see a ripple in the top and down tubes right behind the lugs...yet the fork looks straight.
Anyone?
https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/bik/1922925217.html
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The seller is a big time Tampa flipper. He buys bikes from wherever and re-lists them on CL the same day. In most cases he does literally nothing to the bikes. Lets take this one for instance, he can put new tires on it but can't level the bar and seat?
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Top tube and down tubes both look bent to me, about 1 to 2 inches from the head tube. Kind of looks like one of those cases where the frame tubes bent instead of the fork. OUCH.
If you have the original picture, crop it to just the area around the head tube, and blow it up.
Unfortunately, he will probably snag some fish, giving flippers a bad name.
If you have the original picture, crop it to just the area around the head tube, and blow it up.
Unfortunately, he will probably snag some fish, giving flippers a bad name.
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Shame too, that Tivoli with the Tange Infinity frame is a really nice riding bike, and that one looks to be in really nice shape otherwise.
For better or worse, at least my eyes didn't lie to me.
For better or worse, at least my eyes didn't lie to me.
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Notice that the photo is not correct. The wheels and chain rings are not round.
This may add to the "weird" look it has to your eye.
This may add to the "weird" look it has to your eye.
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Most of what caught my eye was the distance from the front tire to the downtube...usually you see a bent fork when that's apparent but this fork is straight.
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Good call Keith - the angle of the lens won't have affected that. Shame as the bike looked clean but the cost of repair would be uneconomic. Unless Kurt and his "Magic Gadget" could straighten it?
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Top tube has severe buckling. Minor tweak on the downtube.
As for straightening it, the following example is about as extreme a bend you can practically straighten with a Park HTS-1 without incurring any evidence of damage after the job:
BEFORE:
AFTER:
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As for straightening it, the following example is about as extreme a bend you can practically straighten with a Park HTS-1 without incurring any evidence of damage after the job:
BEFORE:
AFTER:
-Kurt
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My bet is the funky angle distorts the image. Note that the front wheel is farther from the wall than the rear, and the photo is taken off center and angled to re-center the image in the frame, plus it's a slight upward view point . I'd have to see it in person to say it's tweaked. The chainring, wheels add to the illusion I believe.
This looked tweaked according to the distance of the tire to the down tube but inperson it was found to be straight, same illusion I'm guessing
This looked tweaked according to the distance of the tire to the down tube but inperson it was found to be straight, same illusion I'm guessing
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My bet is the funky angle distorts the image. Note that the front wheel is farther from the wall than the rear, and the photo is taken off center and angled to re-center the image in the frame, plus it's a slight upward view point . I'd have to see it in person to say it's tweaked. The chainring, wheels add to the illusion I believe.
This looked tweaked according to the distance of the tire to the down tube but inperson it was found to be straight, same illusion I'm guessing
This looked tweaked according to the distance of the tire to the down tube but inperson it was found to be straight, same illusion I'm guessing
I don't think the line through the headtube should like up with the hub?
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It really pisses me off that people would sell stuff like this!
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THE TAMPA BIKE IS BENT. PERIOD.
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The Blue Dawes was from an earlier post. It was checked out in person and supposedly it was all camera angles that caused the image to look tweaked. Don't shot the messenger!
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Listen to Kurt. Rippled tubes = significantly tweaked.
Just like wheels, bent forks can be easily replaced by any novice.
That being said, this type of tweak would have to be perfectly verticle to have a neutral affect on alignment (unlikely; misalignments are revealed by lateral pull while riding), and, needless to say, alignment wouldn't be corrected by a replacement fork.
Just like wheels, bent forks can be easily replaced by any novice.
That being said, this type of tweak would have to be perfectly verticle to have a neutral affect on alignment (unlikely; misalignments are revealed by lateral pull while riding), and, needless to say, alignment wouldn't be corrected by a replacement fork.
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While a bent fork can be easily replaced, the OP fork is a really good paint match. So if it is a replacement, either the bike is a repaint, or the owner lucked out and found a great match.
+100 Rippled main tubes = R I P. Donor bike, but unfortunately, seller will find a fish to buy it.
+1 Hate to see this on C/L. There are a couple of flippers that do this kind of thing in my area. I have outed them a few times, the bike frames were badly tweaked. One seller in particular just keeps pulling down his ad, and reposting. He eventually passes on his trash, at full market pricing.
+100 Rippled main tubes = R I P. Donor bike, but unfortunately, seller will find a fish to buy it.
+1 Hate to see this on C/L. There are a couple of flippers that do this kind of thing in my area. I have outed them a few times, the bike frames were badly tweaked. One seller in particular just keeps pulling down his ad, and reposting. He eventually passes on his trash, at full market pricing.
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