Go Back  Bike Forums > The Racer's Forum > "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
Reload this Page >

Training Status??? (III)

Search
Notices
"The 33"-Road Bike Racing We set this forum up for our members to discuss their experiences in either pro or amateur racing, whether they are the big races, or even the small backyard races. Don't forget to update all the members with your own race results.

Training Status??? (III)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-10-14, 02:19 PM
  #7401  
Pedal Warrior
 
Specialized2k10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NorCal
Posts: 486

Bikes: 2010 Specialized Allez with SRAM Force gruppo

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
ill give patched tubes a second chance. i used to patch them up but noticed that rapid air loss and just started tossing them cause it was annoying having to pump it up before every ride. ill see if your theory is correct. thanks for the advice
Specialized2k10 is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 03:28 PM
  #7402  
Senior Member
 
aaronmcd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: SF, CA
Posts: 3,462

Bikes: Cervelo S5, Marin Gestalt X11

Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 554 Post(s)
Liked 65 Times in 45 Posts
Originally Posted by mattm
Get the Park Tool "Quick" patches or whatever, don't wait for any glue to dry. At least that's what I do.

As for pumping up a tire during a race.. lol! Generally you'll either have a spare wheel or be SOL.
Last few laps, already SOL. Just didn't want to walk back.

As for spare wheel - wouldn't it be faster to change a tube than to walk/run on cleats all the way to the wheel pit? Either way it's gonna take more than a lap. At Early Bird, the director told me the rule is free lap AFTER getting to the pit. Is this true? Can you just change a tube on the back stretch for 2 laps and jump back in on the back instead?

(obviously no one cares at the Early Birds)
aaronmcd is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 03:35 PM
  #7403  
Senior Member
 
rideaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 956

Bikes: Giant TCR, Giant Anthem, Felt CX

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 65 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Took the day off. Slept 9 hours last night which is very unusual for me...hope I'm not getting sick! I'm toying with the idea of racing this weekend. I have a 50 mile "fun" ride planned tomorrow with some triathlete friends, then there's a Crit on Sunday. I've never done a crit before, and really need to get that monkey off my back. So maybe??
rideaz is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 03:40 PM
  #7404  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: ?
Posts: 2,300

Bikes: i may have bike(s)

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 46 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rideaz
Took the day off. Slept 9 hours last night which is very unusual for me...hope I'm not getting sick! I'm toying with the idea of racing this weekend. I have a 50 mile "fun" ride planned tomorrow with some triathlete friends, then there's a Crit on Sunday. I've never done a crit before, and really need to get that monkey off my back. So maybe??
Race the crit.
beatlebee is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 03:40 PM
  #7405  
Senior Member
 
aaronmcd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: SF, CA
Posts: 3,462

Bikes: Cervelo S5, Marin Gestalt X11

Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 554 Post(s)
Liked 65 Times in 45 Posts
Originally Posted by rideaz
Took the day off. Slept 9 hours last night which is very unusual for me...hope I'm not getting sick! I'm toying with the idea of racing this weekend. I have a 50 mile "fun" ride planned tomorrow with some triathlete friends, then there's a Crit on Sunday. I've never done a crit before, and really need to get that monkey off my back. So maybe??
Is there any reason to not do a crit on Sunday?? (As long as you aren't getting sick of course)
aaronmcd is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 03:42 PM
  #7406  
**** that
 
mattm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Posts: 15,402
Mentioned: 151 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1099 Post(s)
Liked 104 Times in 30 Posts
Originally Posted by aaronmcd
Last few laps, already SOL. Just didn't want to walk back.

As for spare wheel - wouldn't it be faster to change a tube than to walk/run on cleats all the way to the wheel pit? Either way it's gonna take more than a lap. At Early Bird, the director told me the rule is free lap AFTER getting to the pit. Is this true? Can you just change a tube on the back stretch for 2 laps and jump back in on the back instead?

(obviously no one cares at the Early Birds)
Yeah the free lap starts when you get to the pit. You can cut the course, walk backwards on the course (sidewalk ONLY), etc, to get back to the pit.

And free laps generally stop at 6 or so laps to go (8k to go usually?), after that you are indeed SOL.

You (shouldn't!) won't be racing with a pump anyway, so spare wheels are really the only way to go. In a RR where you might go otb you can bring a pump/co2 just to get back to the finish, but in crits you don't want to try to change a tire. Ever.

Fwiw a some of the local crits will have "neutral" wheels (for anyone to use), so I rarely actually bring spare wheels to races.
__________________
cat 1.

my race videos
mattm is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 06:27 PM
  #7407  
In the Pain Cave
 
thechemist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 1,672
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
2hrs 75-80%FTP with sporadic 8sec bursts at 150%ftp. basey
thechemist is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 06:43 PM
  #7408  
Senior Member
 
rideaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 956

Bikes: Giant TCR, Giant Anthem, Felt CX

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 65 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by aaronmcd
Is there any reason to not do a crit on Sunday?? (As long as you aren't getting sick of course)
haha..yeah...I'm running out of excuses!
rideaz is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 07:01 PM
  #7409  
Senior Member
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur

Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2952 Post(s)
Liked 3,106 Times in 1,417 Posts
2x20's today at lunch. The felt so good after the first one I decided to go all out and use the second one as an FTP test. Got to bump up my FTP a few watts as a result, so pretty pleased.
caloso is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 07:13 PM
  #7410  
In the Pain Cave
 
thechemist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 1,672
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by caloso
2x20's today at lunch. The felt so good after the first one I decided to go all out and use the second one as an FTP test. Got to bump up my FTP a few watts as a result, so pretty pleased.
i bet it also felt good after you missed it yesterday! Congrats on the FTP boost!
thechemist is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 08:13 PM
  #7411  
Fly on the wall
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 981

Bikes: a few

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Added 1,000' of climbing to my commute home today. I'm gonna count that.
kindablue is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 08:22 PM
  #7412  
Senior Member
 
furiousferret's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Redlands, CA
Posts: 6,313
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 842 Post(s)
Liked 469 Times in 250 Posts
Hill Repeats, 5 minutes up, 2 down. Perfect grade for short term power intervals.
furiousferret is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 09:16 PM
  #7413  
You blink and it's gone.
 
rbart4506's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dundas, Ontario
Posts: 4,436

Bikes: Race bike, training bike, go fast bike and a trainer slave.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
45min of recovery... Legs were feeling good!
rbart4506 is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 09:26 PM
  #7414  
Senior Member
 
Inquisitor.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 116
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've been checking the weather forecast for tomorrow morning all day. It's gone from 100% chance of Thunder Storms to 60% chance of Thunder Showers. I guess that's a step in the right direction. I like riding in the rain, but I've got a bad relationship with lightning. Hopefully the storm pushes off enough I can get a good group ride in.
Inquisitor. is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 10:05 PM
  #7415  
Senior Member
 
furiousferret's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Redlands, CA
Posts: 6,313
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 842 Post(s)
Liked 469 Times in 250 Posts
Originally Posted by Inquisitor.
I've been checking the weather forecast for tomorrow morning all day. It's gone from 100% chance of Thunder Storms to 60% chance of Thunder Showers. I guess that's a step in the right direction. I like riding in the rain, but I've got a bad relationship with lightning. Hopefully the storm pushes off enough I can get a good group ride in.
\
furiousferret is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 10:09 PM
  #7416  
**** that
 
mattm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Posts: 15,402
Mentioned: 151 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1099 Post(s)
Liked 104 Times in 30 Posts
Originally Posted by furiousferret
\
like
__________________
cat 1.

my race videos
mattm is offline  
Old 01-10-14, 11:45 PM
  #7417  
Senior Member
 
Inquisitor.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 116
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Other than the freak cold weather this week, it has been a pretty mild winter in the South East. I've only ridden in the 30's a few times. Most days have been low 60's to mid 70's. It's not quite as nice as when I lived in San Diego, but not far off.
Inquisitor. is offline  
Old 01-11-14, 07:05 AM
  #7418  
out walking the earth
Thread Starter
 
gsteinb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lake Placid, NY
Posts: 21,441
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 912 Post(s)
Liked 752 Times in 342 Posts
60 mins over/unders

then tempo

totals:
60 mins - .97
90 mins - .916
120 mins - .904

cool down

Last edited by gsteinb; 01-11-14 at 08:05 AM.
gsteinb is offline  
Old 01-11-14, 07:22 AM
  #7419  
Making a kilometer blurry
 
waterrockets's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Austin (near TX)
Posts: 26,170

Bikes: rkwaki's porn collection

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 37 Post(s)
Liked 91 Times in 38 Posts
My favorite part of tiny expensive homes, super long commutes, earthquakes, mudslides, and forest fires in California, is watching it on tv from Austin. (CA born -- so don't judge me)
waterrockets is offline  
Old 01-11-14, 07:40 AM
  #7420  
Senior Member
 
shovelhd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Western MA
Posts: 15,669

Bikes: Yes

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ill judge you if I want to, cupcake.

Third week in a row with a crappy Saturday, nice Sunday, and a training schedule that doesn't match. It's just not been a good weather winter this year.
shovelhd is offline  
Old 01-11-14, 07:42 AM
  #7421  
out walking the earth
Thread Starter
 
gsteinb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lake Placid, NY
Posts: 21,441
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 912 Post(s)
Liked 752 Times in 342 Posts
changes can be made to paper
gsteinb is offline  
Old 01-11-14, 07:46 AM
  #7422  
Senior Member
 
shovelhd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Western MA
Posts: 15,669

Bikes: Yes

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
True but I'd rather stick to the plan than change it. It's going well so far.
shovelhd is offline  
Old 01-11-14, 07:56 AM
  #7423  
out walking the earth
Thread Starter
 
gsteinb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lake Placid, NY
Posts: 21,441
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 912 Post(s)
Liked 752 Times in 342 Posts
as long as it's your coach changing it, it's not really changing what's working. inner harmony factors in. just sayin since I've been told such things myself. at minimum it's worth an ask
gsteinb is offline  
Old 01-11-14, 08:07 AM
  #7424  
Senior Member
 
shovelhd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Western MA
Posts: 15,669

Bikes: Yes

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I understand. Point taken. What makes it something to crab about is that there is a standing club ride on Saturday mornings which I cannot do during the season, and I enjoy riding with those guys.
shovelhd is offline  
Old 01-11-14, 08:13 AM
  #7425  
out walking the earth
Thread Starter
 
gsteinb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lake Placid, NY
Posts: 21,441
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 912 Post(s)
Liked 752 Times in 342 Posts
ah. well that's just too bad Whiney McWhwiney Pants.
gsteinb is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.