Campy Record/Superbe compatibility?
01-21-11 | 05:27 PM
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Campy Record/Superbe compatibility?
I just bought a Suntour Superbe Pro crank (I believe it is from about '88) and was looking for a wheelset. I've seen one with Campy Record 7spd freewheel, but have not dealt with Campy before. Will the crank teeth and freewheel work together?
01-21-11 | 05:36 PM
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That was about the time Sun Tour's slant pantograph rear derailleur patent ran out.
some of the Maeda produced Superbe stuff is interchangeable with Campag,
the levers in the brakes for example.
As <C>record freewheels are largely aluminum, they were literally made for your record attempt.
3/32 wide 1/2" chain is pretty universal, sedisport chains that we used back in the day ,
are now a Sram Brand.
some of the Maeda produced Superbe stuff is interchangeable with Campag,
the levers in the brakes for example.
As <C>record freewheels are largely aluminum, they were literally made for your record attempt.
3/32 wide 1/2" chain is pretty universal, sedisport chains that we used back in the day ,
are now a Sram Brand.
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01-21-11 | 07:39 PM
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That was about the time Sun Tour's slant pantograph rear derailleur patent ran out.
some of the Maeda produced Superbe stuff is interchangeable with Campag,
the levers in the brakes for example.
As <C>record freewheels are largely aluminum, they were literally made for your record attempt.
3/32 wide 1/2" chain is pretty universal, sedisport chains that we used back in the day ,
are now a Sram Brand.
some of the Maeda produced Superbe stuff is interchangeable with Campag,
the levers in the brakes for example.
As <C>record freewheels are largely aluminum, they were literally made for your record attempt.
3/32 wide 1/2" chain is pretty universal, sedisport chains that we used back in the day ,
are now a Sram Brand.
I do agree about the FW and they are huge $$$$ now. I suspect the FW is some other brand
Rothenfield; I don't see why they won't work together. what kind of shifting are you using friction? what kind of FW is on the wheels? I assume you mean Campy Record hubs and 7spd FW.
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01-21-11 | 09:16 PM
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Correct. I believe. I bought a Superbe Pro crank that I believe is '88 vintage, then came upon an opportunity to buy a Victory wheelset seller describes as "complete Campagnolo Record 7spd hubs". If this was Shimano, I'd say that this was about the time Shimano went from freewheel to cassette. Not having experience with Campy, I'm assuming it is a freewheel. I will ask the seller, if it would make a difference. Probably an odd combination, but I'd like to try it if there is no compatibility issues.
Correct. I believe. I bought a Superbe Pro crank that I believe is '88 vintage, then came upon an opportunity to buy a Victory wheelset seller describes as "complete Campagnolo Record 7spd hubs". If this was Shimano, I'd say that this was about the time Shimano went from freewheel to cassette. Not having experience with Campy, I'm assuming it is a freewheel. I will ask the seller, if it would make a difference. Probably an odd combination, but I'd like to try it if there is no compatibility issues.
01-21-11 | 09:21 PM
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like I said I don't see one. what kind of shifting?
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01-21-11 | 09:37 PM
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no people used to do it all the time. now everyone has to have everything the same manufacture, group and even the same model year.
OH yeah it all has to be black or carbon finish too.
OH yeah it all has to be black or carbon finish too.
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01-22-11 | 09:34 AM
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If you wanted to have index shifting, you will need Campy shifters. Since all DT shifters are friction in front, you can use any front derailleur you wish.
01-22-11 | 09:46 AM
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First, the crank doesn't care one bit what you have in back as long as the chain is compatible with it so, yes, your Superbe crank will work fine with any Campy rear cassette or freewheel.
If you wanted to have index shifting, you will need Campy shifters. Since all DT shifters are friction in front, you can use any front derailleur you wish.
If you wanted to have index shifting, you will need Campy shifters. Since all DT shifters are friction in front, you can use any front derailleur you wish.
I believe we are still in the dark as to the true idenity of the FW/Cassette (did we come up with an abreviation for Cassette yet?)
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01-22-11 | 12:24 PM
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actually he would need Campi shifters only if the FW/Cassette is Campy or Campy spaced. if the FW/cassette is Shimano spaced then he needs shimano compatible shifters.
I believe we are still in the dark as to the true idenity of the FW/Cassette (did we come up with an abreviation for Cassette yet?)
I believe we are still in the dark as to the true idenity of the FW/Cassette (did we come up with an abreviation for Cassette yet?)
BTW, I don't think Campy ever made 7-speed brifters. IIRC, their first indexing shifters were "Synchro I and II" and were all downtube types.
01-22-11 | 05:38 PM
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I don't think he has a Campy Record 7 speed freewheel.
01-22-11 | 11:53 PM
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Campagnolo made 2 types of 7 speed freewheels. Campagnolo Ergal freewheels first came in standard spacing (in 1984) then they made a compact spaced freewheel in 1986.
01-23-11 | 12:01 PM
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Interesting. I thought all 7-speed freewheels were "narrow spaced" so they fit in the same overall hub width (126 mm OLD) as standard spaced 6-speed freewheels. What was the OLD requirement for the "standard spaced" 7-speed Campy?
01-23-11 | 01:01 PM
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Yes, I know all of that. What I was questioning was the existance of two different widths 7-speed Campy freewheels that TLCFORBIKES posted about.
01-23-11 | 11:09 PM
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01-23-11 | 11:20 PM
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I'm afraid I can't add much to the debate today, but love seeing you bike geeks get after it. I'm meeting the seller tomorrow and, at the price I paid, don't see how I could be disappointed. As I stated, the seller said they had Campy Record 7 spd hubs. They are laced to Campy Victory rims, the seller didn't know if they are Strada or Cronos. I'm hoping Strada personally. Regardless, It would be interesting to nail down the cog spacing if I decided to go indexed.
