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Old 01-27-17 | 05:07 PM
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So, this is a first...

Guy buys a nicely polished 80's era Campagnolo seat post from me on eBay. Day he receives it, he requests a refund, because he is certain it's a counterfeit.


I sent him a return mailing label and will happily give him a refund- I mean, who needs an unhappy customer- but that's a first for me. A counterfeit Campagnolo seat post? Really? And based on the shipping address, the buyer (whose name, location and company will be withheld), works for a major bicycle component manufacturing company. Which means, one presumes, he oughta know, right?


Must admit I was ready to just discount it as buyer's remorse, but then wondered...anybody ever heard of such a thing?


Not trying to start another 'I hate eBay because..." thread, because I really DO like eBay. I buy a lot of stuff there, and sell things from time to time. Just...wondering.
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Did he happen to say why he thought so?
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Old 01-27-17 | 05:12 PM
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Pegged it right, buyers remorse or they realized they looked for the wrong size.
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Old 01-27-17 | 05:14 PM
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Beauty of a post, great price - couldn't have been buyer's remorse

That's a strange one, Doc!

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Was it a Fluted Super Record 1 Bolt 27.2 ??
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Old 01-27-17 | 05:27 PM
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Was it a Fluted Super Record 1 Bolt 27.2 ??
Why would that be important?
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Old 01-27-17 | 05:30 PM
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Why would that be important?
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Because I have been frantically looking for one that doesn't cost $400.
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Old 01-27-17 | 05:34 PM
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Hard to imagine someone going to the trouble and expense
to counterfeit a seat post.
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Old 01-27-17 | 05:38 PM
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Bikes: A green one, "Ragleigh," or something.

I bet the eBay buyer goofed and needed a different size. "Measure twice; bid once..."
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
Because I have been frantically looking for one that doesn't cost $400.
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Because I have been frantically looking for one that doesn't cost $400.
Me too!!!
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Me too!!!
I think for the Time being my Cinelli will be wearing a Dura Ace. So Sad.
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I had a similar experience but not bike related. Rather hilarious as the buyer / top bidder claimed to be a lawyer of which doesn't mean squat in my world.

In brief. A limited ed. made in Germany, brand new, complete, in the box + paperwork Schuco Auto-union tin car -perfect original and cherished condition. Buyer signed as received and after a few days I had followed up and thanked him! No feedback yet was posted.

The buyer only then replies was so dissatisfied and claimed it was a fake + repainted, even after he checked with his blacklight?? LOL

I was quite taken back by the statement and knowing personally acquiring the item direct from the company. Regardless, I offered for him to return it, I'll even absorb all the fees but only reimburse after receiving it and the same condition it was delivered.

Buyer became outraged and threatened lawsuit....yada, yada. Too mental beyond further explanation. Of course a record of comm. was with ebay. Anyways, the buyer declined my gracious resolution and kept the item. He also gave me a negative feedback. It was such a longtime ago, but think ebay took care of the neg. feedback.

What a nutsack whoever he is.

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Counterfeit - it didn't say Campanola
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I think for the Time being my Cinelli will be wearing a Dura Ace. So Sad.
Blasphemy, you need it more
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
Counterfeit - it didn't say Campanola
I need one of those for my COLONAGO?
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Blasphemy, you need it more
I know. Sad isn't it, this addiction of ours.
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I am shocked, shocked I say, that an upstanding member of this community would try to hawk fake bike parts on the internet! Have we no standards? Who (aside from OP) would do such a thing?

Okay, I admit, I'd do it. But it's not worth it to me. If I contracted a slave labor prison in Breitbartland to make fake obsolete Campy parts for me, it would cost me more than I could get for them on eBay.
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Counterfeit - it didn't say Campanola
That looks like an atypical Chinese Spelling mistake.
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Old 01-27-17 | 06:47 PM
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Did he happen to say why he thought so?
Neal, according to the buyer, because: "Weight, polish, stamping, and cut details are all evidence of this."

I don't know, seemed like your basic C-record era aero-style Campagnolo seatpost to me. I even checked mine against pics on Velobase to make sure I had the model and era correct.


Considering I owned and used said seatpost for about a decade before deciding I didn't need it and then polished it up on the new bench buffer my daughter gave me for Christmas, needless to say, I was surprised.


Was it a Fluted Super Record 1 Bolt 27.2 ??
Actually, I do have a fluted Nuovo Super Record single bolt seatpost in 27.2. Not a 'Rino' post.
What makes these so valuable to you? They seem to be all over the place for $100-135 or so...
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Because I have been frantically looking for one that doesn't cost $400.
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Old 01-27-17 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
I think for the Time being my Cinelli will be wearing a Dura Ace. So Sad.
What era DA?
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Neal, according to the buyer, because: "Weight, polish, stamping, and cut details are all evidence of this."

I don't know, seemed like your basic C-record era aero-style Campagnolo seatpost to me. I even checked mine against pics on Velobase to make sure I had the model and era correct.
Oh, boy, Campy-philes are in a world of their own.
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Old 01-27-17 | 07:15 PM
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What era DA?
I think it is 7400. Gorgeous post.
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