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Old 11-27-18, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
He hasn't responded to my PM. I may have to use a quill stem. Oh, the horrors.
Sorry for the slow response. I am alive just coming off a holiday weekend and not feeling 100%. Headsets are still available and I will be in touch with everyone who has requested one today.
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Originally Posted by gugie View Post
Reading through the thread, I didn’t see what might be yet another market for you. Weve seen a few damaged fork threads posted on BF, and some steerers cut just a bit short for most any standard quill type headset.

Am I correct in seeing that this could be a nifty “problem solver” fot those instances?
As Robbie noted, yes, the inni headset could be used as a solution to either of those problems. You won't find a threaded headset that requires less available threaded fork than the inni design.

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Over the weekend I was riding one of my old bikes with a nitto pearl stem that squeaks sometimes and found myself thinking about replacing it with one of these super-cool threadless conversion headsets. While modern threadless stems are functionally superior to a quill stem in just about every way, I still prefer the aesthetics of a quill stem on an old steel frame. I do have some modern steel frames with threadless headsets and stems that I've learned to live with so still considering.
I can sympathize here as I certainly do prefer a slimmer profile stem next to small diameter steel frame tubes. When I get my head screwed on straight, I have all intentions of producing a threadless stem that preserves as much of the original quill stem appearance as possible, for those of us that aren't completely satisfied with what's currently available.

I appreciate the comments/feedback from all of you!
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Originally Posted by joejack951 View Post
A...I have all intentions of producing a threadless stem that preserves as much of the original quill stem appearance as possible, for those of us that aren't completely satisfied with what's currently available...
I suggest designing it for 25.4 or 26.0 mm bars. The Factory Five Titan is even uglier than a threadless stem. Looks like a light-bulb on a stick.
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My next one is on the way. It will go on a bike uniquely suited for the threadless look. If I do go with 26.0 carbon bars, Origin8 makes a stem that has a small diameter and will look just fine. I will likely go with 31.8, because the frame is cool with it. I'm tempted to get 26.0 carbon bars anyway and the Origin8 stem to see if they "match up" well with a steel TT, etc.
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Any plans for a JIS version? (30.0mm cups and 27.0mm crown race) I have an '80 Trek that I've been trying to find the right stem for that is not only tall enough but doesn't look funny. This is the solution I've been looking for!
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Old 03-08-19, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by amerikaner View Post
Any plans for a JIS version? (30.0mm cups and 27.0mm crown race)
FWIW, it's trivial to mill a JIS frame/fork to ISO (30.2mm cups/26.4mm crown race seat) spec.
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Originally Posted by amerikaner View Post
Any plans for a JIS version? (30.0mm cups and 27.0mm crown race) I have an '80 Trek that I've been trying to find the right stem for that is not only tall enough but doesn't look funny. This is the solution I've been looking for!
The market for JIS headsets is simply too small for me to bother doing a special run of parts for an already niche product, especially when there are options to rework existing parts to satisfy any need.

You could, as noted, adjust your frame and fork to ISO specs as one option. Another, even lower effort option is to just press the ISO spec cups into the JIS frame, something which apparently gets done quite frequently without issue. The crown race ID is easily opened up to JIS specs with an adjustable reamer (I can do this for you). If the thought of using JIS cups in an ISO frame is too much for you to bear, we can talk about modifying those, too.
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Old 03-08-19, 05:11 PM
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Thanks, I'll go the milling route. Just picked up a park tools head tube reamer on ebay. PM incoming.
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Ordered one last night on amazon,should be here tomorrow.Going on a 81' trek 710.
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Originally Posted by Gary64 View Post
Ordered one last night on amazon,should be here tomorrow.Going on a 81' trek 710.
Thanks again for the order, Gary! Pics of the install are always welcome. Before and after a bonus, too.

And yes, it's true. After way too long in the making, the innicycle conversion headset is finally order-able (and with expedited shipping available) all without having to deal with me
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Old 04-02-19, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary64 View Post
Nice! Not to jump all over this and derail the thread, but I'm real curious about those Soma Condor bars - I'd love a ride report when you've got one!
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May have asked this before, any plans of going the other way with something, threadless to quill?
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Originally Posted by tiredhands View Post
Nice! Not to jump all over this and derail the thread, but I'm real curious about those Soma Condor bars - I'd love a ride report when you've got one!
Will do!What little I've been able to get out really like them so far.have a set of the original condor bar and don't care for them,these are the condor 2.Planning on a ride tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by merziac View Post
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May have asked this before, any plans of going the other way with something, threadless to quill?
Hey, Sorry for the late response. I believe a product exists to do that already but my Google searches can't seem to find it. I have no intention of producing such a product, though.
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Originally Posted by Gary64 View Post
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This looks great, Gary! Still waiting on that ride report but aesthetically it is a huge improvement over the adapter (in my biased opinion ).
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Originally Posted by joejack951 View Post
Hey, Sorry for the late response. I believe a product exists to do that already but my Google searches can't seem to find it. I have no intention of producing such a product, though.
No worries, I think you're right, seems like it was a kludge.
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I really like the improvement in looks,rides and handles great!Really liking the soma condor 2 bars,didnt have the whole phone mount on in the pics but with the bars having a rise the phone sits down in the recess and is non obtrusive.I use the phone as a speedometer with "ride with gps" app.
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I've got a pair of those adapters installed, and they're the cat's pajamas.

PS:@Gary64, I also dig that bar, for sure. I was in Springfield last weekend, looks like this weekend, too.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
I've got a pair of those adapters installed, and they're the cat's pajamas.

PS:@Gary64, I also dig that bar, for sure. I was in Springfield last weekend, looks like this weekend, too.
Thank you,cool your over my way.I live in the county between springfield and enon.
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This looks like the best 1" option by a long shot!

Found this thread today, and immediately ordered one on Amazon. Thank you for bringing this to market @joejack951! Going on a Trek 610 restomod as soon as I can figure out the forks.
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Originally Posted by 3doghouse View Post
Found this thread today, and immediately ordered one on Amazon. Thank you for bringing this to market @joejack951! Going on a Trek 610 restomod as soon as I can figure out the forks.
Awesome! Are you looking for a replacement fork or using the original? What's the build plan?

Thanks to a sprained ankle which has me unable to run and some slow time at work, I was able to get out on my Trek 660 for ~100 miles over the course of two rides this past week. Coming off a few rides on my Chinabomb (carbon everything, disc brakes), it is surprising just how modern the 660 feels with the updated front end, and just how comfortable vintage steel is. The Chinabomb has 25mm tubulars versus 23mm clinchers on the 660 and both bikes have quite a plush ride (tires are Vittoria Corsa G+ on both so a reasonably fair comparison). The tubulars definitely yield better handling but the Trek is just as smooth of a ride even without the extra tire volume and using aluminum handle bars and seatpost.
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Awesome! Are you looking for a replacement fork or using the original? What's the build plan?

Thanks to a sprained ankle which has me unable to run and some slow time at work, I was able to get out on my Trek 660 for ~100 miles over the course of two rides this past week. Coming off a few rides on my Chinabomb (carbon everything, disc brakes), it is surprising just how modern the 660 feels with the updated front end, and just how comfortable vintage steel is. The Chinabomb has 25mm tubulars versus 23mm clinchers on the 660 and both bikes have quite a plush ride (tires are Vittoria Corsa G+ on both so a reasonably fair comparison). The tubulars definitely yield better handling but the Trek is just as smooth of a ride even without the extra tire volume and using aluminum handle bars and seatpost.
That's encouraging! I just ordered a set of the Corsa G's in 25 clincher for it... Couldn't pass on the sale at CC.

Here's where I have to watch out for flames... Purists have mercy... I bought it as a frame with bad paint... It will have SRAM Rival on it, 1x11, and looking for a carbon fork.

The bare head tube is 145mm, so what would you recommend in steer tube and thread length ?
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That's encouraging! I just ordered a set of the Corsa G's in 25 clincher for it... Couldn't pass on the sale at CC.

Here's where I have to watch out for flames... Purists have mercy... I bought it as a frame with bad paint... It will have SRAM Rival on it, 1x11, and looking for a carbon fork.

The bare head tube is 145mm, so what would you recommend in steer tube and thread length ?
I might need to grab a couple extra tires at that price! Thanks for the tip.

1X vintage steel? You could do worse

Steerer tube requirements:
1. Must be 27mm min/45mm max longer than bare headtube measured from fork crown
2. Threads on steerer tube must end no more than 16mm above the edge of the bare headtube (using fork crown as reference)

So with a 145mm head tube you'll be looking for a steerer tube at least 172mm long up to 190mm. For the 172mm steerer tube, it will need at least 11mm of thread. The 190mm steerer tube will need >29mm, or be increased to that with a die.
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Originally Posted by joejack951 View Post
I might need to grab a couple extra tires at that price! Thanks for the tip.

1X vintage steel? You could do worse

Steerer tube requirements:
1. Must be 27mm min/45mm max longer than bare headtube measured from fork crown
2. Threads on steerer tube must end no more than 16mm above the edge of the bare headtube (using fork crown as reference)

So with a 145mm head tube you'll be looking for a steerer tube at least 172mm long up to 190mm. For the 172mm steerer tube, it will need at least 11mm of thread. The 190mm steerer tube will need >29mm, or be increased to that with a die.
Awesome! Thanks for the guidance. I'll post pics when it's together.
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