Huffy + Campagnolo Super Record = The Ultimate C&V Sacrilege build
05-15-23, 08:15 PM
#1326
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,528
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2429 Post(s)
Liked 4,424 Times
in
2,100 Posts
__________________
Likes For cudak888:
05-15-23, 08:20 PM
#1327
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,963
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2493 Post(s)
Liked 3,231 Times
in
2,037 Posts
^^^^^^^great minds think alike. And then there’s me...
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh International, 1998 Corratec Ap & Dun, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh International, 1998 Corratec Ap & Dun, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone
Likes For jdawginsc:
05-15-23, 08:22 PM
#1328
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,528
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2429 Post(s)
Liked 4,424 Times
in
2,100 Posts
Darn it, didn't even see that you suggested it first.
Dammit, AdventureManCO, you're making me read this thread with ADHD.
-Kurt
Dammit, AdventureManCO, you're making me read this thread with ADHD.
-Kurt
__________________
Likes For cudak888:
Likes For gbi:
05-16-23, 12:00 AM
#1330
Habitual User
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Altadena, CA
Posts: 8,121
Bikes: 2023 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2018 Trek Procaliber 9.9 RSL, 2018 Storck Fascenario.3 Platinum, 2003 Time VX Special Pro, 2001 Colnago VIP, 1999 Trek 9900 singlespeed, 1977 Nishiki ONP
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5039 Post(s)
Liked 8,270 Times
in
3,906 Posts
A bike I had many years ago had a double clamp-on cable stop at the lower end of the down tube, a clamp-on cable stop on the chainstay just past the BB, and a single clamp-on cable stop on the seat tube just above the BB. Short sections of housing ran between the stops. It was quite effective, and somewhat flexible.
Unfortunately, none of the cable stops were Campy, so they are excluded from this build. 🙁
Unfortunately, none of the cable stops were Campy, so they are excluded from this build. 🙁
__________________
"Swedish fish. They're protein shaped." - livedarklions
"Swedish fish. They're protein shaped." - livedarklions
05-16-23, 02:11 AM
#1331
Junior Member
Over? Under? Why sully the beauty of that legendary bottom bracket with an ugly cable?
Surely this can be converted to "top push" operation with mere days in the workshop:
(From Ehttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115762529418)
Surely this can be converted to "top push" operation with mere days in the workshop:
(From Ehttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115762529418)
Likes For gilesa:
05-16-23, 05:47 AM
#1332
Senior Member
One consideration if you're seriously considering the "thru-shell" option: are you planning to use a "grease condom" on the BB? If so, that will impact the placement of the holes you'll need to drill.
As noted above, prior to the mid-1980s clamp-on cable guides for bottom bracket routing were common. I'd go that way, but it's your project.
Looking damn good so far!
Edited to add: did Campagnolo ever make hub shiners?
If not, I bet some could be fabricated out of old/broken leather Campy toe straps (broken ones if they're not too short) and a nice brass or stainless snap or two. Red would look nice, but Campy blue would work too.
As noted above, prior to the mid-1980s clamp-on cable guides for bottom bracket routing were common. I'd go that way, but it's your project.
Looking damn good so far!
Edited to add: did Campagnolo ever make hub shiners?
If not, I bet some could be fabricated out of old/broken leather Campy toe straps (broken ones if they're not too short) and a nice brass or stainless snap or two. Red would look nice, but Campy blue would work too.
Last edited by Hondo6; 05-16-23 at 06:04 AM. Reason: Correction.
Likes For Hondo6:
05-16-23, 11:07 AM
#1333
The Huffmeister
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Le Grande HQ
Posts: 2,799
Bikes: '79 Trek 938, '86 Jim Merz Allez SE, '90 Miyata 1000, '68 PX-10, '80 PXN-10, '73 Super Course, '87 Guerciotti, '83 Trek 600, '80 Huffy Le Grande
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1258 Post(s)
Liked 3,624 Times
in
1,447 Posts
Not much time to respond right this moment, but thank you all for your thoughts on the BB shell and cable routing. The solution I have right now is inelegant at best. I do want to come up with something a little better, AND if it allows me to ditch the Campy down tube cable guide I’m going to take it.
I will also be addressing the entire fork debacle soon ( y’all didn’t see that one!) and also the seatpost - which I feel a little bad because I cheated.
Just kidding, don’t feel bad at all.
The hanger and Mad Honk ‘s adapter are next up!
I will also be addressing the entire fork debacle soon ( y’all didn’t see that one!) and also the seatpost - which I feel a little bad because I cheated.
Just kidding, don’t feel bad at all.
The hanger and Mad Honk ‘s adapter are next up!
__________________
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
05-16-23, 11:10 AM
#1334
The Huffmeister
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Le Grande HQ
Posts: 2,799
Bikes: '79 Trek 938, '86 Jim Merz Allez SE, '90 Miyata 1000, '68 PX-10, '80 PXN-10, '73 Super Course, '87 Guerciotti, '83 Trek 600, '80 Huffy Le Grande
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1258 Post(s)
Liked 3,624 Times
in
1,447 Posts
One consideration if you're seriously considering the "thru-shell" option: are you planning to use a "grease condom" on the BB? If so, that will impact the placement of the holes you'll need to drill.
As noted above, prior to the mid-1980s clamp-on cable guides for bottom bracket routing were common. I'd go that way, but it's your project.
Looking damn good so far!
Edited to add: did Campagnolo ever make hub shiners? If not, I bet some could be fabricated out of old/broken leather Campy toe straps (broken ones if they're not too short) and a nice brass or stainless snap or two. Red would look nice, but Campy blue would work too.
As noted above, prior to the mid-1980s clamp-on cable guides for bottom bracket routing were common. I'd go that way, but it's your project.
Looking damn good so far!
Edited to add: did Campagnolo ever make hub shiners?
If not, I bet some could be fabricated out of old/broken leather Campy toe straps (broken ones if they're not too short) and a nice brass or stainless snap or two. Red would look nice, but Campy blue would work too.I have been advised against thru shell options due to the experiences of some I’ve heard who have dealt with it. However, if I can eek out another 700 posts by doing so, it is quite a tempting option!
__________________
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
Likes For AdventureManCO:
05-16-23, 11:14 AM
#1335
The Huffmeister
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Le Grande HQ
Posts: 2,799
Bikes: '79 Trek 938, '86 Jim Merz Allez SE, '90 Miyata 1000, '68 PX-10, '80 PXN-10, '73 Super Course, '87 Guerciotti, '83 Trek 600, '80 Huffy Le Grande
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1258 Post(s)
Liked 3,624 Times
in
1,447 Posts
Sounds incredibly difficult, a huge pain, and a major waste of time which means I’d love to do it. However with deadlines looming, common sense, which has NO place in our build, unfortunately has to make a rare appearance. Let’s keep such undesirable appearances to a minimum , mmkay?
__________________
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
05-16-23, 11:15 AM
#1336
Habitual User
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Altadena, CA
Posts: 8,121
Bikes: 2023 Niner RLT 9 RDO, 2018 Trek Procaliber 9.9 RSL, 2018 Storck Fascenario.3 Platinum, 2003 Time VX Special Pro, 2001 Colnago VIP, 1999 Trek 9900 singlespeed, 1977 Nishiki ONP
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5039 Post(s)
Liked 8,270 Times
in
3,906 Posts
Maybe?
EDIT: Here's some in better condition... https://www.ebay.com/itm/27582137865...mis&media=COPY
EDIT: Here's some in better condition... https://www.ebay.com/itm/27582137865...mis&media=COPY
__________________
"Swedish fish. They're protein shaped." - livedarklions
"Swedish fish. They're protein shaped." - livedarklions
05-16-23, 11:16 AM
#1337
The Huffmeister
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Le Grande HQ
Posts: 2,799
Bikes: '79 Trek 938, '86 Jim Merz Allez SE, '90 Miyata 1000, '68 PX-10, '80 PXN-10, '73 Super Course, '87 Guerciotti, '83 Trek 600, '80 Huffy Le Grande
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1258 Post(s)
Liked 3,624 Times
in
1,447 Posts
A bike I had many years ago had a double clamp-on cable stop at the lower end of the down tube, a clamp-on cable stop on the chainstay just past the BB, and a single clamp-on cable stop on the seat tube just above the BB. Short sections of housing ran between the stops. It was quite effective, and somewhat flexible.
Unfortunately, none of the cable stops were Campy, so they are excluded from this build. 🙁
Unfortunately, none of the cable stops were Campy, so they are excluded from this build. 🙁
__________________
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
05-16-23, 11:39 AM
#1338
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,528
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2429 Post(s)
Liked 4,424 Times
in
2,100 Posts
How about fitting the Super Record cage to an earlier Record body with a cable stop?
With the right clamp, this would allow for a cable run from the stop to the FD.
-Kurt
With the right clamp, this would allow for a cable run from the stop to the FD.
-Kurt
__________________
05-16-23, 12:16 PM
#1339
The Huffmeister
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Le Grande HQ
Posts: 2,799
Bikes: '79 Trek 938, '86 Jim Merz Allez SE, '90 Miyata 1000, '68 PX-10, '80 PXN-10, '73 Super Course, '87 Guerciotti, '83 Trek 600, '80 Huffy Le Grande
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1258 Post(s)
Liked 3,624 Times
in
1,447 Posts
Over. Don’t cover the shell cutout. You COULD drill a hole in the bottom bracket and thread the cable through and exit the other side, though the front derailleur would be trickier.
it would be interesting to see JBweld on some under bracket guides though (600 more posts)
You still haven’t shown the seatpost (unless I missed it?)
Is the bike that long in wheelbase. It’s gonna be a Cadillac!
it would be interesting to see JBweld on some under bracket guides though (600 more posts)
You still haven’t shown the seatpost (unless I missed it?)
Is the bike that long in wheelbase. It’s gonna be a Cadillac!
__________________
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
05-16-23, 12:27 PM
#1340
The Huffmeister
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Le Grande HQ
Posts: 2,799
Bikes: '79 Trek 938, '86 Jim Merz Allez SE, '90 Miyata 1000, '68 PX-10, '80 PXN-10, '73 Super Course, '87 Guerciotti, '83 Trek 600, '80 Huffy Le Grande
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1258 Post(s)
Liked 3,624 Times
in
1,447 Posts
__________________
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
Likes For AdventureManCO:
05-16-23, 12:30 PM
#1341
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,528
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2429 Post(s)
Liked 4,424 Times
in
2,100 Posts
Likes For cudak888:
05-16-23, 12:38 PM
#1342
The Huffmeister
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Le Grande HQ
Posts: 2,799
Bikes: '79 Trek 938, '86 Jim Merz Allez SE, '90 Miyata 1000, '68 PX-10, '80 PXN-10, '73 Super Course, '87 Guerciotti, '83 Trek 600, '80 Huffy Le Grande
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1258 Post(s)
Liked 3,624 Times
in
1,447 Posts
__________________
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
Likes For AdventureManCO:
05-16-23, 12:54 PM
#1343
The Huffmeister
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Le Grande HQ
Posts: 2,799
Bikes: '79 Trek 938, '86 Jim Merz Allez SE, '90 Miyata 1000, '68 PX-10, '80 PXN-10, '73 Super Course, '87 Guerciotti, '83 Trek 600, '80 Huffy Le Grande
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1258 Post(s)
Liked 3,624 Times
in
1,447 Posts
Face it, more Herse/Colnago/Woodrup/Baylis/Strawberry/Paramount threads bring everybody down.
’Cool! Another [insert fav custom builder] thread! Ahh, that reminds me to go out to the display room and look at the 50 I have just admire them…’
Nobody needs that silliness!
No no…’come check out my HUFFY guys!’ ends up working for everyone and especially the common blue collar bike dude man, because then he can go out to his messy little garage, take a look at his TrekaUniRaleighsonic and say to himself, ‘Well, whatever I’ve got, at least it’s better than that guy’s’
The Huffy, the bike of the working man, is the bike for the working man. We’re here to help you feel better about yourself, as iab so eloquently put it earlier
And we do a darn good job of it, too!
that sorta makes me think I need a tagline like that…
’I spent over 200hrs fixing up a Huffy. Feel better about your life yet?’
It does have a nice ring to it!
’Cool! Another [insert fav custom builder] thread! Ahh, that reminds me to go out to the display room and look at the 50 I have just admire them…’
Nobody needs that silliness!
No no…’come check out my HUFFY guys!’ ends up working for everyone and especially the common blue collar bike dude man, because then he can go out to his messy little garage, take a look at his TrekaUniRaleighsonic and say to himself, ‘Well, whatever I’ve got, at least it’s better than that guy’s’
The Huffy, the bike of the working man, is the bike for the working man. We’re here to help you feel better about yourself, as iab so eloquently put it earlier
And we do a darn good job of it, too!that sorta makes me think I need a tagline like that…
’I spent over 200hrs fixing up a Huffy. Feel better about your life yet?’
It does have a nice ring to it!
Last edited by AdventureManCO; 05-16-23 at 12:59 PM.
05-16-23, 12:58 PM
#1344
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,528
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2429 Post(s)
Liked 4,424 Times
in
2,100 Posts
(And apologies Mad Honk for missing the call on Sunday; was deep in a Zoom meeting for the Paramount Registry).
"'MURICA!!!"
-Kurt
__________________
05-16-23, 01:02 PM
#1345
The Huffmeister
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Le Grande HQ
Posts: 2,799
Bikes: '79 Trek 938, '86 Jim Merz Allez SE, '90 Miyata 1000, '68 PX-10, '80 PXN-10, '73 Super Course, '87 Guerciotti, '83 Trek 600, '80 Huffy Le Grande
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1258 Post(s)
Liked 3,624 Times
in
1,447 Posts
Just wait until it meets Kurtswell's Silver Hammer.
(And apologies Mad Honk for missing the call on Sunday; was deep in a Zoom meeting for the Paramount Registry).
So the working man can get killed from steel rims and ineffective centerpulls!
"'MURICA!!!"
-Kurt
(And apologies Mad Honk for missing the call on Sunday; was deep in a Zoom meeting for the Paramount Registry).
So the working man can get killed from steel rims and ineffective centerpulls!
"'MURICA!!!"
-Kurt
05-16-23, 01:07 PM
#1346
Senior Member
Yeah, I missed your call as well Mad Honk …zooming about the Huffy registry [that a [i]whole bunch of us] are interested in putting together…
"Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?"
Last edited by Hondo6; 05-16-23 at 01:10 PM.
05-16-23, 01:14 PM
#1347
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,528
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2429 Post(s)
Liked 4,424 Times
in
2,100 Posts
Yeah, I missed your call as well Mad Honk …zooming about the Huffy registry [that a [i]whole bunch of us] are interested in putting together…
You see, I look out for my friends
-Kurt
__________________
05-16-23, 01:31 PM
#1348
The Huffmeister
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Le Grande HQ
Posts: 2,799
Bikes: '79 Trek 938, '86 Jim Merz Allez SE, '90 Miyata 1000, '68 PX-10, '80 PXN-10, '73 Super Course, '87 Guerciotti, '83 Trek 600, '80 Huffy Le Grande
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1258 Post(s)
Liked 3,624 Times
in
1,447 Posts
Hey at least we can acknowledge they're Paramount quality. The cars were bigger back then...they needed steel rims to sort of act like 'bicycle bumpers'.
Last edited by AdventureManCO; 05-16-23 at 06:45 PM.
05-16-23, 02:19 PM
#1349
The Huffmeister
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Le Grande HQ
Posts: 2,799
Bikes: '79 Trek 938, '86 Jim Merz Allez SE, '90 Miyata 1000, '68 PX-10, '80 PXN-10, '73 Super Course, '87 Guerciotti, '83 Trek 600, '80 Huffy Le Grande
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1258 Post(s)
Liked 3,624 Times
in
1,447 Posts
Stop giving me what I want!!!
__________________
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
There were 135 Confentes, but only one...Huffente!
Likes For AdventureManCO:
05-16-23, 02:22 PM
#1350
The Huffmeister
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: The Le Grande HQ
Posts: 2,799
Bikes: '79 Trek 938, '86 Jim Merz Allez SE, '90 Miyata 1000, '68 PX-10, '80 PXN-10, '73 Super Course, '87 Guerciotti, '83 Trek 600, '80 Huffy Le Grande
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1258 Post(s)
Liked 3,624 Times
in
1,447 Posts