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Old 11-13-07, 05:49 PM
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Please help with this Pinarello frame

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I am new to the board. I would like some direction on identifying this Pinarello frame and fork. It was delivered today and the pictures are below. I would like to know the approximate age and any other information anyone can provide. The seller could not provide any additional information.

Thanks for your assistance. I plan on doing a complete refinish and build from there.



















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Old 11-13-07, 07:04 PM
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It's a Pinarello Montello but can't tell the year. It's been repainted not only because of the obvious flaws. Montellos, or at least my '87 I'm restoring, left the entire rear triangle and fork exposed chrome.
The Columbus tag on mine was Columbus SLX tubing. Reach into the seat tube through the BB and feel. If there are lands and grooves like a rifle barrel it is SLX
Fork should have it too. If you can find the original paint scheme you can closer identify the year.
Here is a site with old catalogues.
https://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/
There are 4 Pinarello catalogues there form that era.
Any other help feel free to ask, I might discover some new info in the process also.
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Old 11-13-07, 07:08 PM
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By the way what are the serial #'s?
I'm trying to learn what the rhyme and reason of them are.
For example my frame and fork re both 0 0 8 6 4. The two 0's being letters not #'s.
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Old 11-13-07, 07:41 PM
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I'd guess late-80's Columbus SLX/SPX tubing. The things that make me think that are the "superbutted" and the "rinforzi elicoidali" on the Columbus decal and the short lugs, the lack of chrome on the frame, the almost fully chromed fork, the pantographing on the fork crown and tops of the seat stays, and the kind of medium length drop outs, all of which are very 80's-ish. Perhaps a Pinarello expert can narrow that down more.
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Old 11-13-07, 08:14 PM
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Thanks for the replies!

The frame serial is DD698. The only number I can find on the fork is a 23 on the steering column. The tubing is definitely rifled. I am planning on having Southwest Frame Works do the refinish.
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Take a look here for several Pinarello catalogs.

https://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/
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Old 11-13-07, 08:44 PM
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It is definitely worth fixing up and riding.

What color are you planning for the refinish? You can never go wrong with red.
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Old 11-13-07, 10:36 PM
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The little wings on the bottom bracket, that stiffen it against the seat tube flex, is the montello signature. I had an '86 for years that had every detail of this frame; unfortunately, I never wrote down the serial number. Mine was "Jolly Blue".

My '85 record is EE491. Does that help any?
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Originally Posted by luker View Post
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My '85 record is EE491. Does that help any?
Let's see, my '87 is OO### and your Record is EE### and this red bike is DD###.
Maybe ther is a pattern here with years to Letters of serial #?
If enough people reply we might get a good idea of the frames year.
Didn't Montellos first appear around '85?
Since you are refinishing it anyways this is what I have done to mine so far.
Took bunches of pictures regarding decals though I think yours might not be original.
Drilled out the rivets that hold on the head badge and set it aside.
Used some paint stripper from any home center and removed all the paint.
In my case the rear triangle hadn't been painted on it was still original chrome.
If they didn't rough it up yours might look beautiful beneath the paint too.
My whole frame is chromed but the factory sandblasted the painted areas so I will have to repaint all the original spots.
Curious just what lies beneath that red paint.
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Old 11-14-07, 03:56 PM
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Should check with "Oink", about his Montello. He and I have "the same but different", paint.

His Montello was, he/I believe, a "show bike"; mine? - no info.

Is mine an '85, '86, or '87? - Don't know.

The serial number on my fork (only have frame & fork) is "SS 171", no number on the frame.

I aquired the frame & fork at the same tyme, believing that they are a "set".

Everything is as clear as mud.


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Originally Posted by J T CUNNINGHAM View Post
Should check with "Oink", about his Montello. He and I have "the same but different", paint.

His Montello was, he/I believe, a "show bike"; mine? - no info.

Is mine an '85, '86, or '87? - Don't know.

The serial number on my fork (only have frame & fork) is "SS 171", no number on the frame.

I aquired the frame & fork at the same tyme, believing that they are a "set".

Everything is as clear as mud.


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Have you looked at the catalogue link above?
No frame #'s? Maybe filled and painted over? My '87 has matching frame and fork #'s so I imagine yours does too. I bought mine new in '87 so I know it's history except for the years that a friend had it until I recently bought it back. Only thing he did was use the wrong size seatpost and break the original bolt.
Try finding one of those?
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Old 11-14-07, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dvs cycles View Post
Have you looked at the catalogue link above?
No frame #'s? Maybe filled and painted over? My '87 has matching frame and fork #'s so I imagine yours does too. I bought mine new in '87 so I know it's history except for the years that a friend had it until I recently bought it back. Only thing he did was use the wrong size seatpost and break the original bolt.
Try finding one of those?

I have looked at the catalouges - they are great, but 'no cigar'.

It was when I started to 'really look', at the frame later, that

'extenuating circumstances', presented themselves.


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Old 11-14-07, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by J T CUNNINGHAM View Post
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'extenuating circumstances'


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Yes, 'extenuating'!

(check your 'inbox")


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Old 02-18-08, 04:10 PM
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Frame / Fork refinish completed

I just got the frame back. I did not have time to take many pictures, but here are a few decent shots.







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super job on the new paint!
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Question:

Was there never any chrome under the rear triangle paint?

If not, could have been a Special Order!


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Nice to see a cat with some taste. Who did the paint?
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Very nice! Paint looks stunning.
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2 thumbs up on the paint job. It looks really, really good.
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Originally Posted by luker View Post
Nice to see a cat with some taste. Who did the paint?
LOL @ the comment about the cat.

The work was done by David Cheakas at Southwest Frameworks in Dallas, TX.
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Very nice paint job, and since I neglected to do so before,

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That is the same paint job I have on my soon to be restored '87 Montello except the rear is chrome. Was yours roughed up under the paint it had before?
Where did you get the paint and decals done?
Never mind I just saw your other post.
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That is the same paint job I have on my soon to be restored '87 Montello except the rear is chrome. Was yours roughed up under the paint it had before?
Where did you get the paint and decals done?
Never mind I just saw your other post.
David thought this frame had been refinished before and the previous owner had the the rear chrome painted over. I actually forgot to ask when I picked up the finished product what he found out during the strip down. So I am not 100% sure why the rear is not sporting chrome.
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If the first repainter beadblasted the chrome to make the paint stick better it would need to be rechromed or painted again. Mine is blasted everywhere there was paint from Pinarello originally. I plan on leaving the chrome rear triangle as is along with the fork.
Taking mine to Cyclart next week I think. They are just a short drive down the road from here.
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