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Originally Posted by enjoybikes
(Post 20838455)
Do the cranks work for square tapers or do you transplant the lambert spindle too?
In this case I’ll be using a complete TA bb assembly when transplanting the crankset to another frame. As for the Lambert bb, it’ll stay with the Lambert, as whoever buys it when put it up for sale soon, might appreciate having it as part of the original frameset. And I’d imagine that it would accept a variety of cranksets besides the Pro-5 Vis. |
Originally Posted by deux jambes
(Post 20838990)
As far as I understand it, the TA Pro-5 Vis crankarms have a proprietary taper matched perfectly with the proper TA spindle. However, it’s been reported that many various bb spindles play well with it, particularly early Stronglight, and Campagnolo.
In this case I’ll be using a complete TA bb assembly when transplanting the crankset to another frame. As for the Lambert bb, it’ll stay with the Lambert, as whoever buys it when put it up for sale soon, might appreciate having it as part of the original frameset. And I’d imagine that it would accept a variety of cranksets besides the Pro-5 Vis. So, long story short, be certain of what you have before you start. |
+10 Lambert’s TA clone had a straight no taper spindle. A Lambert crank either has to go to someone with a Lambert/Viscount or parted out for the chainrings. Untapered spindle was a bad idea. Some Lambert’s used a pressed in BB also unique. |
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 20839271)
TA cranks work fine on other spindles. But Lambert/Viscount cranks and spindles can be a hot mess. Are you certain your crank is TA and not Lambert/Viscount? Some Lambert/Viscount spindles were untapered, which made them incompatible with tapered spindles (and prone to spontaneous loosening). Some Lambert/Viscount spindles used unusual bolt thread, e.g. either 5/16"x 26tpi or 5/16" x 22tpi rather than the 8mm x 1mm everyone else used. And some Lambert crank arms used non-standard 7/8" x 24tpi extractor thread rather than standard 22mm x 1mm or TA 23mm x 1mm thread.
So, long story short, be certain of what you have before you start.
Originally Posted by wrk101
(Post 20839280)
+10 Lambert’s TA clone had a straight no taper spindle. A Lambert crank either has to go to someone with a Lambert/Viscount or parted out for the chainrings. Untapered spindle was a bad idea. Some Lambert’s used a pressed in BB also unique.
The crankset wore a Specialties TA decal on the non drive side arm while it was missing the drive side decal. The triple chainset was marked with TA branding. And it took a 23 mm J.A. stein extractor to remove both arms. The bottom bracket was cup and cone with loose balls. And the spindle appears Japanese maybe? Just a hunch. It’s stamped, “D-5SP.” By my eye, and caliper readings, it’s definitely a tapered spindle. However, Lambert branded fixing bolts secured the arms to the spindle. I’m a dunce at measuring threads so couldn’t tell ya what I have here. So yea, a legitimate TA crankset, and the only reason I bought the bike. I always appreciate the vast knowledge running through BF. And what you guys shared, I did not know other than Lamberts and Viscounts could have press fit bottom brackets. But the extra details and information just given, is not only interesting, but confirms for me once again that the world of C&V bikes is a black hole of oddities! |
Originally Posted by deux jambes
(Post 20839955)
The bottom bracket was cup and cone with loose balls. And the spindle appears Japanese maybe? Just a hunch. It’s stamped, “D-5SP.” By my eye, and caliper readings, it’s definitely a tapered spindle. However, Lambert branded fixing bolts secured the arms to the spindle. I’m a dunce at measuring threads so couldn’t tell ya what I have here.
So yea, a legitimate TA crankset, and the only reason I bought the bike. I always appreciate the vast knowledge running through BF. And what you guys shared, I did not know other than Lamberts and Viscounts could have press fit bottom brackets. But the extra details and information just given, is not only interesting, but confirms for me once again that the world of C&V bikes is a black hole of oddities! |
Schwinn Tempo from the trash
I went to my LBS to get a bike box to ship a frame I sold. I chatted with the owner for a few minutes, than went out to the dumpster to get a box. In a pile of dirty snow and trash, next to the dumpster was a 1987 Schwinn Temp with Shimano 105. Whats this? I went back to the shop just to confirm it was being thrown out....shop owner said..."go ahead and take it". So its a 1987 Temp....in MY SIZE. Crazy times indeed.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6b6d76b58a.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c40d854c1e.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a4f709fb98.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ae6a4a2cb5.jpghttps://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fdfb13d14c.jpg |
Originally Posted by vintagerando
(Post 20840854)
I went to my LBS to get a bike box to ship a frame I sold. I chatted with the owner for a few minutes, than went out to the dumpster to get a box. In a pile of dirty snow and trash, next to the dumpster was a 1987 Schwinn Temp with Shimano 105. Whats this? I went back to the shop just to confirm it was being thrown out....shop owner said..."go ahead and take it". So its a 1987 Temp....in MY SIZE. Crazy times indeed.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6b6d76b58a.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c40d854c1e.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a4f709fb98.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ae6a4a2cb5.jpghttps://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fdfb13d14c.jpg |
I’m glad there are pics or else I would have a hard time believing this^^^ Great snag that Tempo! Another Schwinn is saved! |
Originally Posted by 3speedslow
(Post 20841073)
I’m glad there are pics or else I would have a hard time believing this^^^ Great snag that Tempo! Another Schwinn is saved! Thrown to the wayside in a pile of dirty brown snow mixed with trash, you will see the road again dear Tempo. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2d412f6869.jpg |
^^ Wow. Just.. wow.
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Originally Posted by vintagerando
(Post 20841083)
I always take pics of new acquisitions. Here is the 'as found' pic.
Thrown to the wayside in a pile of dirty brown snow mixed with trash, you will see the road again dear Tempo. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2d412f6869.jpg |
That 105 group is a good solid performer when coupled with a fine steeled machine. You have both! Just unbelievable how some people cannot see the worth in such things! |
^^^^^^ +1, esp. an LBS, when they could have called a local bike kitchen / co-op, or even a charity thrift, to come pick it up.
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Another cheap find... not the best quality, but $25 can't lie!
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...94a16cf8c0.jpg 1974 Raleigh Record Ltd. Lots of rusty and grimy parts to clean, but should be a quick fix! |
Here's my saved from the dump special. I've invested about $80 into it (mostly on the tires). Serves as my commuter/beater/loaner bike. It's funny how simply a 1x conversion can make something look cool! I'm tossing the "fork" in the trash soon and replacing with a steel rigid fork.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fd43fddd25.jpg |
My local co-op has a pile of frames and parts that I think will just be scrapped. Some good stuff in there. I'm going to ask if I can salvage any of it...but not really sure what I would do with it!
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Originally Posted by ShogunMSB
(Post 20847871)
Here's my saved from the dump special. I've invested about $80 into it (mostly on the tires). Serves as my commuter/beater/loaner bike. It's funny how simply a 1x conversion can make something look cool! I'm tossing the "fork" in the trash soon and replacing with a steel rigid fork.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fd43fddd25.jpg Looks like a great machine there! Those tires are fantastic ones. I use them also on my nice Trek 930. |
^^^^^^ It came originally with a rigid fork, no?
Must be something going around; I was just looking at my '87 830, thinking I should make it my next daily driver. Wasn't quite a "save from the dump", though; this one cost me a whole $25 at the last thrift sale. |
I think they probably came with a rigid fork, might have been spec'd with the SR fork mine has as well... It's got a lot of play in the stanchions, is heavy and looks like crap. I can't wait to get rigid!
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Actually, reviewing the vintage-trek site, they did ship a forest green SHX version in '94. Gotta wonder if it's actually different geometry, though.
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Originally Posted by AdventureManCO
(Post 20848255)
My local co-op has a pile of frames and parts that I think will just be scrapped. Some good stuff in there. I'm going to ask if I can salvage any of it...but not really sure what I would do with it!
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
(Post 20848531)
i am building up a 830 for a beater also. Single up front as well. Should not be too hard to come across a suspension corrected front fork if you are ditching the SHX front. Looks like a great machine there! Those tires are fantastic ones. I use them also on my nice Trek 930. Edit: would something like this work? https://www.ebay.com/itm/THREADED-1-BICYCLE-CroMo-FORK-FOR-26-TIRES/192497212886?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D9e7841 2af77447cf8c9bf28eb085e3ca%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D283414215527%26itm%3D1924972128 86&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 Or this? https://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Threa...gateway&sr=8-3 |
I'm always amazed by what some people can find in a dumpster. I've never been so lucky.
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Originally Posted by ShogunMSB
(Post 20849276)
Any more info on the suspension corrected 26" 1" threaded forks or where to find one? I went to the local used bike store and couldn't find any that would work for my bike... can't find much online but don't know if I'm looking in the right places...
Edit: would something like this work? https://www.ebay.com/itm/THREADED-1-....c100005.m1851 Or this? https://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Threa...gateway&sr=8-3 |
Todays trash pick, sad shape with a stuck seatpost. If I can get it out I’ll build an upright. If not I’ll strip the good parts. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...psigvg3jpo.jpg |
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