Sometimes, the old ways are the best
01-20-11 | 10:56 AM
#101
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Ohhhhh..... Netflix. Talk about using modern technology to enhance the C&V experience. Streaming Colombo and The Rockford Files straight into my living room from the internet. Especially The Rockford Files. That show was filmed in The San Fernando Valley where I grew up, during the time I was mis-spending my teenage years. Watching an episode of that show now, I see everything I grew up with and was surrounded by - Chevy Vega's, the Jack-In-The Box clown, Standard Oil gas stations, funky fashions....... the works.
RE: the 1812 Overture - Telemarc issued a digital copy in the late 80's that was a big speaker killer, and the acid test for how good your stuff really was.
A little bit of serendipity - I went to an estate sale a couple of days ago, and passed on an old table-top 8 track deck. I did, however, pick up an August, 1972 issue of Playboy. Chock full of stereo ads - Pioneer SX727 and Kenwood KR-7200 to name a couple, as well as several multi-page spreads for music clubs... including one called the Stereo Tape Club of America, that offered 8 track tapes and a free 8 track stereo unit when you subscribed.
RE: the 1812 Overture - Telemarc issued a digital copy in the late 80's that was a big speaker killer, and the acid test for how good your stuff really was.
A little bit of serendipity - I went to an estate sale a couple of days ago, and passed on an old table-top 8 track deck. I did, however, pick up an August, 1972 issue of Playboy. Chock full of stereo ads - Pioneer SX727 and Kenwood KR-7200 to name a couple, as well as several multi-page spreads for music clubs... including one called the Stereo Tape Club of America, that offered 8 track tapes and a free 8 track stereo unit when you subscribed.
01-20-11 | 11:21 AM
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Bikes: 1967 Paramount; 1982-ish Ron Cooper; 1978 Eisentraut "A"; two mid-1960s Cinelli Speciale Corsas; and others in various stages of non-rideability.
A little bit of serendipity - I went to an estate sale a couple of days ago, and passed on an old table-top 8 track deck. I did, however, pick up an August, 1972 issue of Playboy. Chock full of stereo ads - Pioneer SX727 and Kenwood KR-7200 to name a couple, as well as several multi-page spreads for music clubs... including one called the Stereo Tape Club of America, that offered 8 track tapes and a free 8 track stereo unit when you subscribed.
You do realize, that by saying that in public and in writing, you just made life a living hell for his daughter, don't you?
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01-20-11 | 02:03 PM
#104
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01-20-11 | 02:40 PM
#105
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Dolce far niente
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01-20-11 | 02:45 PM
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Dolce far niente
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Purely in the interests of historical literary preservation, I found it necessary to open up the centerfold in order to gently remove the fine speckles of mold from Miss Summer's imperiled buttocks. For the sake of future generations, mind you.
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01-20-11 | 02:55 PM
#107
If I own it, I ride it
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From: Cardinal Country
Bikes: Lejeune(14), Raleigh, Raysport, Jan De Reus, Gazelle, Masi, B. Carré(4), Springfield, Greg Lemond, Andre Bertin, Schwinn Paramount
Just be glad that is all you found.....
01-20-11 | 02:56 PM
#108
Going on a Paramount Hunt
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Bikes: 1987 Eisentraut Rainbow Trout, 1970? Coppi, 1986 TREK 500 Tri Series, 196? Legnano Super Sport, 1993 Klein Rascal
Why yes... yes, I did. Nekkid women I can see anywhere - vintage stereo ads are a whole 'nuther kettle of fish. Not to mention all the booze and cigarette ads, as well as a two page spread on all the available configurations available for the new Ford Pinto. I'll take the Red White and Blue special edition, please..... although I gotta admit the orange one with the Sport Accent Group is pretty sweet looking.
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01-20-11 | 03:48 PM
#109
phony collective progress
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Ahh, my last receiver was an 804. Gotta love Onkyo. Great quality stuff at reasonable prices.
It need not. Don't let the industry convince you that you need a fancy TV with built in whatchamajiggers. Get thee a Roku. Built-in Netflix streaming, Pandora, and bunch of other stuff.
I'm about to get another, one to hook up to a late 70s B&W TV set.
I'm about to get another, one to hook up to a late 70s B&W TV set.
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01-20-11 | 03:58 PM
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Only if she puts any stock into what a buncha bike and stereo freak curmudgeons on the Net, who mostly have never even met her dad, have to say!
My faith in him could be entirely misplaced!
01-20-11 | 04:35 PM
#111
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This is my first go-around with Onkyo stuff. I had the 608 installed for about 2 weeks, but sent it back to Amazon. No phono in, no analog pre-outs, not network connection, and its 100W/ch just didn't drive my mains properly.
I didn't do my homework.
The 808 has all that missing stuff, and about 135W/ch to boot. So far, so good. When the ADCOM gets home it gets plugged in to the pre-outs to off-load the mains, and essentially the 808 will become a fancy-schmancy pre-amp.
Just watched the DVD of Albert Collins Live in Austin last night. Wow, that man could play... and Frosty never sounded so good.
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01-20-11 | 07:21 PM
#112
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The missus had a Pinto when I met her, to a ticket in it going 77.
I had to go to court with her because I didn't believe it.
The judge didn't, either, and dismissed it.
Albert Collins stuff on Gator is hard to beat if you can find it.
I had to go to court with her because I didn't believe it.
The judge didn't, either, and dismissed it.
Albert Collins stuff on Gator is hard to beat if you can find it.
01-20-11 | 08:16 PM
#113
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Alligator Records? I've got all of those. I've been an Albert Collins fan since he sat down in the seat in front of me at Perkins Palace in Pasadena CA and played his music. That was on December 11, 1981.
I had gone there with my buddies to see the tail end of the George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers "50 shows in 50 days, in 50 states" tour. Albert opened for them, and it flat blew me away. I was 24 years old at the time, and had never heard anything like that live, in my life.
Aside from being transfixed by the sound coming off his fingers, I'll never, ever forget standing right behind him and looking down over his shoulder while he caressed his beautiful music out of that Telecaster. It was a defining moment - I was mesmerized.
>shudder< I need a cigarette......
I had gone there with my buddies to see the tail end of the George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers "50 shows in 50 days, in 50 states" tour. Albert opened for them, and it flat blew me away. I was 24 years old at the time, and had never heard anything like that live, in my life.
Aside from being transfixed by the sound coming off his fingers, I'll never, ever forget standing right behind him and looking down over his shoulder while he caressed his beautiful music out of that Telecaster. It was a defining moment - I was mesmerized.
>shudder< I need a cigarette......
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01-20-11 | 10:28 PM
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Alligator Records? I've got all of those. I've been an Albert Collins fan since he sat down in the seat in front of me at Perkins Palace in Pasadena CA and played his music. That was on December 11, 1981.
I had gone there with my buddies to see the tail end of the George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers "50 shows in 50 days, in 50 states" tour. Albert opened for them, and it flat blew me away. I was 24 years old at the time, and had never heard anything like that live, in my life.
Aside from being transfixed by the sound coming off his fingers, I'll never, ever forget standing right behind him and looking down over his shoulder while he caressed his beautiful music out of that Telecaster. It was a defining moment - I was mesmerized.
>shudder< I need a cigarette......
I had gone there with my buddies to see the tail end of the George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers "50 shows in 50 days, in 50 states" tour. Albert opened for them, and it flat blew me away. I was 24 years old at the time, and had never heard anything like that live, in my life.
Aside from being transfixed by the sound coming off his fingers, I'll never, ever forget standing right behind him and looking down over his shoulder while he caressed his beautiful music out of that Telecaster. It was a defining moment - I was mesmerized.
>shudder< I need a cigarette......
01-20-11 | 11:08 PM
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https://www.gallagher.com/clean_records.htm
or make your own:
https://vinylhive.com/groovmaster-lab...vinyl-records/
It works well for me.
I use a Deema carbon fiber anti-static brush before placing the record on the 'table. Like this one.
https://cgi.ebay.ph/DEEMA-CARBOTEX-LP...-/400139494658
or make your own:
https://vinylhive.com/groovmaster-lab...vinyl-records/
It works well for me.
I use a Deema carbon fiber anti-static brush before placing the record on the 'table. Like this one.
https://cgi.ebay.ph/DEEMA-CARBOTEX-LP...-/400139494658
01-21-11 | 05:52 AM
#116
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https://www.gallagher.com/clean_records.htm
or make your own:
https://vinylhive.com/groovmaster-lab...vinyl-records/
It works well for me.
I use a Deema carbon fiber anti-static brush before placing the record on the 'table. Like this one.
https://cgi.ebay.ph/DEEMA-CARBOTEX-LP...-/400139494658
or make your own:
https://vinylhive.com/groovmaster-lab...vinyl-records/
It works well for me.
I use a Deema carbon fiber anti-static brush before placing the record on the 'table. Like this one.
https://cgi.ebay.ph/DEEMA-CARBOTEX-LP...-/400139494658
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01-21-11 | 01:24 PM
#117
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I sure wish that rat-bastid salesman had mentioned something about that when I was shopping for TV's. 
Buying a new TV and coming out of the Dark Ages caused a pretty damn big technology refresh ripple in the BBM household. You and your brother caused me a lot of financial hardship - had to sell the Dancelli and a De Rosa. 
Seriously, though - now that I have a decent A/V receiver plugged in (Onkyo NR-808), I'm pretty much good to go. The 200W/ch ADCOM GFA-555II comes off the test bench today, all tweaked and cleaned and ready to shoulder the 2-channel load to my Hales Engineering Group Revelation 3 main speakers. The Onkyo doesn't sound half bad though - and makes a pretty darn good surround-sound capable pre-amp, what with all the outputs and its 135W/ch oomph. And it even has a phono input - woot!
BTW - pre-game ride and Super Bowl party at my house. Shhhhhh....... don't tell anyone. Come on by, and drag that worthless brother of yours along.
Buying a new TV and coming out of the Dark Ages caused a pretty damn big technology refresh ripple in the BBM household. You and your brother caused me a lot of financial hardship - had to sell the Dancelli and a De Rosa. Seriously, though - now that I have a decent A/V receiver plugged in (Onkyo NR-808), I'm pretty much good to go. The 200W/ch ADCOM GFA-555II comes off the test bench today, all tweaked and cleaned and ready to shoulder the 2-channel load to my Hales Engineering Group Revelation 3 main speakers. The Onkyo doesn't sound half bad though - and makes a pretty darn good surround-sound capable pre-amp, what with all the outputs and its 135W/ch oomph. And it even has a phono input - woot!
BTW - pre-game ride and Super Bowl party at my house. Shhhhhh....... don't tell anyone. Come on by, and drag that worthless brother of yours along.
I also just scored a not so vintage but very nice Pioneer VSX-3800 receiver that has 390 watts with a phono input for all of $8.00 to take care of my vinyl requirements. Now I just need some vinyl...
Looks like I'll have to pass on the Superbowl ride and game as I'm flying to Orlando, FL that day. Have fun without me. Guess you can have my brother over that day if you can talk him out of the fogbank that is the Central Valley.
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TIOS = The Illusion of Speed
1987 Eisentraut Rainbow Trout
1986 Trek 500 TRI SERIES
1993 Klein Rascal
"...Because I don't know what I'm talking about..."
TIOS = The Illusion of Speed
1987 Eisentraut Rainbow Trout
1986 Trek 500 TRI SERIES
1993 Klein Rascal
"...Because I don't know what I'm talking about..."
01-21-11 | 01:42 PM
#118
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Dolce far niente
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I just Googled it - seems the VSX-3800 has a history of power/heat issues. Don't put it next to the curtains.
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"Love is not the dying moan of a distant violin, its the triumphant twang of a bedspring."
S. J. Perelman
"Love is not the dying moan of a distant violin, its the triumphant twang of a bedspring."
S. J. Perelman
01-21-11 | 02:00 PM
#119
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From: n.w. superdrome
Bikes: 1 trek, serotta, rih, de Reus, Pogliaghi and finally a Zieleman! and got a DeRosa
somewhere I have instructions for a DIY VPI type cleaning machine, I'll have to see if I
can dig them up.
Marty
can dig them up.
Marty
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01-21-11 | 02:47 PM
#120
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here's a nice cleaning machine, just sell that Rene Herse:
https://cgi.ebay.com/Odyssey-RCM-MKV-...#ht_3171wt_698
alternatively here are a few links to build your own:
https://www.enjoythemusic.com/recordcleaner.htm
https://www.teresaudio.com/haven/cleaner/cleaner.html
https://cgi.ebay.com/Odyssey-RCM-MKV-...#ht_3171wt_698
alternatively here are a few links to build your own:
https://www.enjoythemusic.com/recordcleaner.htm
https://www.teresaudio.com/haven/cleaner/cleaner.html
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01-21-11 | 02:54 PM
#121
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Here is my recipe for my homebrew record cleaning fluid as well. One part isopropyl alcohol (91%+), three parts distilled water, and a few drops of Kodak Photoflow. Photoflow is used as a wetting agent for developing film. It can be found at camera shops. If you can't find it I have seen a few other recipes using Woolite or liquid dish detergent (Dawn, Palmolive, Ivory, etc.) instead. I use the original fluid bottle that came with my VPI cleaner as the dispenser. I mix up a batch using a 64 ounce gatorade bottle. One 16 oz bottle of the iso alcohol, fill with distilled water and drop in a cap full of photoflow.
01-21-11 | 10:48 PM
#122
Go Team BH!
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1977 Pioneer SX-780, aglow underneath a 1980 Mondia Super. Note the milled knobs and big, beefy toggle switches that softly "thunk" when you throw them. You just don't see that anymore - micro-switches killed them off:
Something else that you don't see much of, anymore. Analog gauges:
Something else that you don't see much of, anymore. Analog gauges:
Best wishes to all!
01-21-11 | 11:27 PM
#123
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My daughter prefers digital.
I told her records were for dancing. She took that the wrong way.
Last week I had to try to explain a telephone cord to them. "We used to use these to attach the phone to the wall." "That seems awfully inconvenient, Daddy. Why would you want to attach your phone to the wall?"
I told her records were for dancing. She took that the wrong way.
Last week I had to try to explain a telephone cord to them. "We used to use these to attach the phone to the wall." "That seems awfully inconvenient, Daddy. Why would you want to attach your phone to the wall?"
01-22-11 | 01:04 AM
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Reminds me of a couple years ago when I had to explain to a 20-year-old how those inconvenient phones didn't need a battery or a power cord. She looked at me like I was crazy.