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Old 02-18-12, 04:23 PM
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Mystery Frame

I had a picture of the panto on the fork of this frame posted here awhile ago. I finally acquired the frame and now have many pics to help identify. The pantograph on the fork crown and lower headlug are pretty certain to be an Upper Case Cursive 'U'. At first I was certain it was an Italian frame but with the English bottom brackett and headset and I not sure anymore. It is not a Rossin. Rear dropout 126mm



Inside fork tang




Cursive letter 'U'




dropout tapped for portacatena




SN 242


















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Old 02-18-12, 04:33 PM
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I still think it is Umberto Dei.
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Is it just me, or does that rear dropout look bent in the 4th picture?
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I wish it was Tom. I keeping looking and hoping I will find something for positive in that direction. Was Dei still making road bikes in the eighties, I am guessing this is from the eighties because of the portacantena dropouts, I think they came out in 1979 or something
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Old 02-18-12, 04:39 PM
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just you i think, i just took a look and it seems fine, just the camera angle not square to object.
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Is it just me, or does that rear dropout look bent in the 4th picture?

Sure looks bent or splayed open to me

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Old 02-18-12, 09:34 PM
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thanks bg, i was aware of the splay I thought 'degan' meant it was twisted/bent out
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I wonder if this is a Union frameset?

The splay can be fixed, but might lose a bit in the strength department in the process.

Nice details - lovely frame!

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Is it just me, or does that rear dropout look bent in the 4th picture?
That's what it appears to me.
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Well I searched around and all I could come up with is your frame most likely has Colnago lugs and obviously an old style writing but under the BB routing Cinelli BB shell. The only other frames I could find with the same lugs that were not a Colnago were French made Uragos. Yes it starts with a "U" but with your ISO BB/ headtube it is certainly doubtful it's a match. BTW, what is the writing on the dropouts?
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Those are 80s stickers on the frame. I question the lugs on the head tube? I think they were a bit simpler. A guy in our club I hung out with back in the 80s had a Rossin just like that, even the same color. Man, did I lusted after that thing.
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Old 02-19-12, 11:47 AM
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all dropouts are "brev. campagnolo"
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not a Rossin.

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