Am I searching for the impossible stem?
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Am I searching for the impossible stem?
Ok so my current stem is a little too long, which is unfortunate because I like it. So I'm trying to figure how to replace it.
Currently, it's a black Salsa quill stem, 110-115mm as seen here:

I have two quill adapters, one 1 1/8" and one 1". I don't want to use the 1 1/8" because it looks like this:

So my thinking in using the 1" adapter is that I might be able to find a skinny steel stem that wouldn't look so out of place. But where are these?? They have to be out there or this 1" adapter wouldn't exist right?
I wouldn't mind the same Salsa quill stem in a 90-95mm length if I could find one..
Anyone got any ideas?
Currently, it's a black Salsa quill stem, 110-115mm as seen here:

I have two quill adapters, one 1 1/8" and one 1". I don't want to use the 1 1/8" because it looks like this:

So my thinking in using the 1" adapter is that I might be able to find a skinny steel stem that wouldn't look so out of place. But where are these?? They have to be out there or this 1" adapter wouldn't exist right?
I wouldn't mind the same Salsa quill stem in a 90-95mm length if I could find one..
Anyone got any ideas?
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Yep it looks pretty terrible. So does the quill adapter 
I'm thinking about painting a silver technomic I have. Anyone had good luck doing that?
A little off topic:
Oh really? So do I (I think).
What is the serial number on yours?

I'm thinking about painting a silver technomic I have. Anyone had good luck doing that?
A little off topic:
Oh really? So do I (I think).
What is the serial number on yours?
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If bar mounting/positioning is a hassle with older quill stems for you, you can try and find hinged clamshell style stems that were available though the mid 80's into the 90's. They mostly retain the prettier and more traditional looks of older stems, but also are more convenient to use than the old closed clamp ones....

The two stems at the top (Mavic) and bottom (ITM) of this pic are hinged stems I currently have mounted on my Peugeot PSV and Alan Carbone respectively, and they have worked well for me and I find them quite convenient whenever I need to service/replace anything on the bar, as I just have to use an allen head wrench and the bar is off the bike without having to remove the stems or the bar tapes.......

The two stems at the top (Mavic) and bottom (ITM) of this pic are hinged stems I currently have mounted on my Peugeot PSV and Alan Carbone respectively, and they have worked well for me and I find them quite convenient whenever I need to service/replace anything on the bar, as I just have to use an allen head wrench and the bar is off the bike without having to remove the stems or the bar tapes.......
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Thanks for the info and link! I'll take a look at mine when I get home.
Back on track now, anyone ever painted a quill stem with good results?
Back on track now, anyone ever painted a quill stem with good results?
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+1 for the Cinelli 1A. A few years ago we could buy them black anodized, NIB on e-bay, for about $25. Those older Cinellis do require a 26.4 handlebar center section, which rules out some of the newer ergo bend styles. The older Cinelli Giro (mod 64) bars are pretty neat and very classic though if you can find one that hasn't been scratched up by prior use.
The Deda Murex quill stem has a removable clamp cap and accepts 26.0 bars. I have one on one of my C&V bikes and like it. Some of them are on e-bay right now.
The Deda Murex quill stem has a removable clamp cap and accepts 26.0 bars. I have one on one of my C&V bikes and like it. Some of them are on e-bay right now.
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There is a new replacement for the 1A, example on the Universal site
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Changed the colour on aluminium parts once by sand blasting them and then putting them in the dish washer for a few cycles - They turned out a nice Dark Grey - I then sprayed them with clear lacquer - They were for a friends mountain bike and the finish held up really well...
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Salsa made those stems in custom sizes BITD. Might be worth waiting to see if one in the right reach turns up online... at a reasonable price!
https://m.ebay.com/itm/251373396401?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1
https://m.ebay.com/itm/251373396401?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1
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Have the Technomic black anodized. I just did a quick Google search and came up with several local Tampa companies who appear to be able to do it.
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https://store.somafab.com/sosuqust.html
25.4 or 26.0 bar clamp
unfortunately only comes in 80 or 100 mm lengths
dare i point you in the direction of an origin8 stem?
https://www.jbimporters.com/web/searc...fkawe45d9drh=4
25.4 or 26.0 bar clamp
unfortunately only comes in 80 or 100 mm lengths
dare i point you in the direction of an origin8 stem?
https://www.jbimporters.com/web/searc...fkawe45d9drh=4
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Changed the colour on aluminium parts once by sand blasting them and then putting them in the dish washer for a few cycles - They turned out a nice Dark Grey - I then sprayed them with clear lacquer - They were for a friends mountain bike and the finish held up really well...

So I'd like to find a 1" stem to try with the quill adapter. Why are these so hard to find?
Something like this but ideally with a faceplate:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steelman-Han...item2c769f19ab
Getting closer but of course wrong color or too long:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ritchey-Silv...item54011122fc
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coda-Road-Ah...item27da83023b
Interesting but of course too short:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Syntace-F99-...item1e833920f4
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If you don't mind a traditional quill stem, both the Cinellia 1A and Nitto Pearl are available in black and silver. They are both excellent stems and readily available in a range of sizes for reasonable prices. I just sold a black Pearl 10 cm on eBay that I had posted for sale on BF initially with no responses. You can't buy a better quill stem than a Nitto Pearl, IMHO.
If your current stem is the Salsa SUL quill with a removable face cap, it might be subject to a recall. That is one reason why they are so hard to find, because most of them were removed from the marketplace. I would love to get a Salsa SUL for one of my bikes, but they are hard to find in non-recall versions.
If your current stem is the Salsa SUL quill with a removable face cap, it might be subject to a recall. That is one reason why they are so hard to find, because most of them were removed from the marketplace. I would love to get a Salsa SUL for one of my bikes, but they are hard to find in non-recall versions.
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If you don't mind a traditional quill stem, both the Cinellia 1A and Nitto Pearl are available in black and silver. They are both excellent stems and readily available in a range of sizes for reasonable prices. I just sold a black Pearl 10 cm on eBay that I had posted for sale on BF initially with no responses. You can't buy a better quill stem than a Nitto Pearl, IMHO.
If your current stem is the Salsa SUL quill with a removable face cap, it might be subject to a recall. That is one reason why they are so hard to find, because most of them were removed from the marketplace. I would love to get a Salsa SUL for one of my bikes, but they are hard to find in non-recall versions.
If your current stem is the Salsa SUL quill with a removable face cap, it might be subject to a recall. That is one reason why they are so hard to find, because most of them were removed from the marketplace. I would love to get a Salsa SUL for one of my bikes, but they are hard to find in non-recall versions.
edit: I just read that the affected stems have "Salsa" painted on them but I'm pretty sure the label on mine is a sticker. I'll double check when I get home.
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Last edited by shoota; 11-19-13 at 01:08 PM.
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I didn't know there was a recall, either...or another non-recall version...have to research that!
There are a lot of Salsa (and copy-cats) black cro-moly 1" quill stems out there in a range of lengths, I have a modest collection myself. But most of them do not have the removable face-plate and most are for mtn. bike bars, so 25.4 clamp diameter. If you want to use those bars (flat, North road, etc.) and don't have to have the face-plate I can probably dig out something in the right length. Some of the knock-offs are almost as nice as a real Salsa (well, maybe) and much cheaper.
vvv Good to know the details about that recall...thanks for the heads-up, tarwheel! vvv
There are a lot of Salsa (and copy-cats) black cro-moly 1" quill stems out there in a range of lengths, I have a modest collection myself. But most of them do not have the removable face-plate and most are for mtn. bike bars, so 25.4 clamp diameter. If you want to use those bars (flat, North road, etc.) and don't have to have the face-plate I can probably dig out something in the right length. Some of the knock-offs are almost as nice as a real Salsa (well, maybe) and much cheaper.
vvv Good to know the details about that recall...thanks for the heads-up, tarwheel! vvv
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I didn't know there was a recall, either...or another non-recall version...have to research that!
There are a lot of Salsa (and copy-cats) black cro-moly 1" quill stems out there in a range of lengths, I have a modest collection myself. But most of them do not have the removable face-plate and most are for mtn. bike bars, so 25.4 clamp diameter. If you want to use those bars (flat, North road, etc.) and don't have to have the face-plate I can probably dig out something in the right length. Some of the knock-offs are almost as nice as a real Salsa (well, maybe) and much cheaper.
There are a lot of Salsa (and copy-cats) black cro-moly 1" quill stems out there in a range of lengths, I have a modest collection myself. But most of them do not have the removable face-plate and most are for mtn. bike bars, so 25.4 clamp diameter. If you want to use those bars (flat, North road, etc.) and don't have to have the face-plate I can probably dig out something in the right length. Some of the knock-offs are almost as nice as a real Salsa (well, maybe) and much cheaper.
All I want is: a black 1" stem with 26.0 bar clamp, 17 degree, 90-95mm. Why is that so hard??
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Those Nitto Pearls are mighty nice stems, but they don't come cheap!
OTOH, if you found your ideal stem except for the color, I'd try to find a powder-coater who could add a small thing (like a stem) to a batch of black he's shooting...you'd also want to mask off the clamp areas, but PCers can do this.
PC will be much more durable and aluminum alloy is notoriously hard to paint well with rattlecan paint.
OTOH, if you found your ideal stem except for the color, I'd try to find a powder-coater who could add a small thing (like a stem) to a batch of black he's shooting...you'd also want to mask off the clamp areas, but PCers can do this.
PC will be much more durable and aluminum alloy is notoriously hard to paint well with rattlecan paint.
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Thanks guys. I guess I am looking for a non-quill stem since I already have a quill stem that would work. I may just have to bite the bullet and powder coat it. This shouldn't be so difficult.
edit: And where are the carbon fiber quill stems?!?
edit: And where are the carbon fiber quill stems?!?
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Last edited by shoota; 11-19-13 at 02:05 PM.
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Salsa has information about the recall at this page on their website:
https://www.salsacromotostem.com/
https://www.salsacromotostem.com/
Mine doesn't have it:

So is it a good stem or bad?
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