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Old 11-19-13, 10:04 AM
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Am I searching for the impossible stem?

Ok so my current stem is a little too long, which is unfortunate because I like it. So I'm trying to figure how to replace it.
Currently, it's a black Salsa quill stem, 110-115mm as seen here:



I have two quill adapters, one 1 1/8" and one 1". I don't want to use the 1 1/8" because it looks like this:



So my thinking in using the 1" adapter is that I might be able to find a skinny steel stem that wouldn't look so out of place. But where are these?? They have to be out there or this 1" adapter wouldn't exist right?

I wouldn't mind the same Salsa quill stem in a 90-95mm length if I could find one..

Anyone got any ideas?
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google quill adapters, there are a ton out there.
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he already has two quill adapters...
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Originally Posted by Kidd69 View Post
google quill adapters, there are a ton out there.
Wow lol.
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To be honest. I think the old Cinelli 1A looks best. I know it is a pain in terms of mounting, but I tried the adapter approach and nearly threw up:
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Went back to this:

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At least I only get flamed for the splash tape!
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Yep it looks pretty terrible. So does the quill adapter

I'm thinking about painting a silver technomic I have. Anyone had good luck doing that?



A little off topic:
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I have a 1984 Trek 610.
Oh really? So do I (I think).
What is the serial number on yours?
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If bar mounting/positioning is a hassle with older quill stems for you, you can try and find hinged clamshell style stems that were available though the mid 80's into the 90's. They mostly retain the prettier and more traditional looks of older stems, but also are more convenient to use than the old closed clamp ones....

The two stems at the top (Mavic) and bottom (ITM) of this pic are hinged stems I currently have mounted on my Peugeot PSV and Alan Carbone respectively, and they have worked well for me and I find them quite convenient whenever I need to service/replace anything on the bar, as I just have to use an allen head wrench and the bar is off the bike without having to remove the stems or the bar tapes.......

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Shoota: 104301 - 1984. It had the eyelets on the frame removed so I am transforming it to what I call the "PaTREK 650". Stripped it and added braze-ons which are a combination of 610 and 660 features. Equipment is nearly equivalent to the 660 but older. Overload amount of pics can be found here.
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Thanks for the info and link! I'll take a look at mine when I get home.

Back on track now, anyone ever painted a quill stem with good results?
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+1 for the Cinelli 1A. A few years ago we could buy them black anodized, NIB on e-bay, for about $25. Those older Cinellis do require a 26.4 handlebar center section, which rules out some of the newer ergo bend styles. The older Cinelli Giro (mod 64) bars are pretty neat and very classic though if you can find one that hasn't been scratched up by prior use.

The Deda Murex quill stem has a removable clamp cap and accepts 26.0 bars. I have one on one of my C&V bikes and like it. Some of them are on e-bay right now.

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There is a new replacement for the 1A, example on the Universal site
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... ever painted a quill stem with good results?
Changed the colour on aluminium parts once by sand blasting them and then putting them in the dish washer for a few cycles - They turned out a nice Dark Grey - I then sprayed them with clear lacquer - They were for a friends mountain bike and the finish held up really well...
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Salsa made those stems in custom sizes BITD. Might be worth waiting to see if one in the right reach turns up online... at a reasonable price!
https://m.ebay.com/itm/251373396401?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1
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Have the Technomic black anodized. I just did a quick Google search and came up with several local Tampa companies who appear to be able to do it.
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https://store.somafab.com/sosuqust.html

25.4 or 26.0 bar clamp
unfortunately only comes in 80 or 100 mm lengths

dare i point you in the direction of an origin8 stem?

https://www.jbimporters.com/web/searc...fkawe45d9drh=4

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Originally Posted by zandoval View Post
Changed the colour on aluminium parts once by sand blasting them and then putting them in the dish washer for a few cycles - They turned out a nice Dark Grey - I then sprayed them with clear lacquer - They were for a friends mountain bike and the finish held up really well...
Kinda reminds me of the really early DA stems that had a smokey finish to them. I'm looking for true black though. Or carbon

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Have the Technomic black anodized. I just did a quick Google search and came up with several local Tampa companies who appear to be able to do it.
Thanks for the heads up I'll look into that.



So I'd like to find a 1" stem to try with the quill adapter. Why are these so hard to find?
Something like this but ideally with a faceplate:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steelman-Han...item2c769f19ab

Getting closer but of course wrong color or too long:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ritchey-Silv...item54011122fc
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coda-Road-Ah...item27da83023b

Interesting but of course too short:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Syntace-F99-...item1e833920f4
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If you don't mind a traditional quill stem, both the Cinellia 1A and Nitto Pearl are available in black and silver. They are both excellent stems and readily available in a range of sizes for reasonable prices. I just sold a black Pearl 10 cm on eBay that I had posted for sale on BF initially with no responses. You can't buy a better quill stem than a Nitto Pearl, IMHO.

If your current stem is the Salsa SUL quill with a removable face cap, it might be subject to a recall. That is one reason why they are so hard to find, because most of them were removed from the marketplace. I would love to get a Salsa SUL for one of my bikes, but they are hard to find in non-recall versions.
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If you don't mind a traditional quill stem, both the Cinellia 1A and Nitto Pearl are available in black and silver. They are both excellent stems and readily available in a range of sizes for reasonable prices. I just sold a black Pearl 10 cm on eBay that I had posted for sale on BF initially with no responses. You can't buy a better quill stem than a Nitto Pearl, IMHO.

If your current stem is the Salsa SUL quill with a removable face cap, it might be subject to a recall. That is one reason why they are so hard to find, because most of them were removed from the marketplace. I would love to get a Salsa SUL for one of my bikes, but they are hard to find in non-recall versions.
How do I know if it is the recall version?

edit: I just read that the affected stems have "Salsa" painted on them but I'm pretty sure the label on mine is a sticker. I'll double check when I get home.
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I didn't know there was a recall, either...or another non-recall version...have to research that!
There are a lot of Salsa (and copy-cats) black cro-moly 1" quill stems out there in a range of lengths, I have a modest collection myself. But most of them do not have the removable face-plate and most are for mtn. bike bars, so 25.4 clamp diameter. If you want to use those bars (flat, North road, etc.) and don't have to have the face-plate I can probably dig out something in the right length. Some of the knock-offs are almost as nice as a real Salsa (well, maybe) and much cheaper.

vvv Good to know the details about that recall...thanks for the heads-up, tarwheel! vvv

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I didn't know there was a recall, either...or another non-recall version...have to research that!
There are a lot of Salsa (and copy-cats) black cro-moly 1" quill stems out there in a range of lengths, I have a modest collection myself. But most of them do not have the removable face-plate and most are for mtn. bike bars, so 25.4 clamp diameter. If you want to use those bars (flat, North road, etc.) and don't have to have the face-plate I can probably dig out something in the right length. Some of the knock-offs are almost as nice as a real Salsa (well, maybe) and much cheaper.
I'm game to listen to any offers and I realize there are a ton out there but everything I've seen so far has something off with it. Like you said a lot of them are for mtb so the bar clamp diameter is wrong and so is the degree rise.

All I want is: a black 1" stem with 26.0 bar clamp, 17 degree, 90-95mm. Why is that so hard??
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How do I know if it is the recall version?

edit: I just read that the affected stems have "Salsa" painted on them but I'm pretty sure the label on mine is a sticker. I'll double check when I get home.
Salsa has information about the recall at this page on their website:

https://www.salsacromotostem.com/
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All I want is: a black 1" stem with 26.0 bar clamp, 17 degree, 90-95mm. Why is that so hard??
Here is where I got my black Nitto Pearl. If you reach their website (Benscycle.com) through a web search, they will give you 10% discount.

https://www.benscycle.com/p-2512-nitt...tem-black.aspx
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Those Nitto Pearls are mighty nice stems, but they don't come cheap!
OTOH, if you found your ideal stem except for the color, I'd try to find a powder-coater who could add a small thing (like a stem) to a batch of black he's shooting...you'd also want to mask off the clamp areas, but PCers can do this.
PC will be much more durable and aluminum alloy is notoriously hard to paint well with rattlecan paint.
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Thanks guys. I guess I am looking for a non-quill stem since I already have a quill stem that would work. I may just have to bite the bullet and powder coat it. This shouldn't be so difficult.

edit: And where are the carbon fiber quill stems?!?
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Originally Posted by tarwheel View Post
Salsa has information about the recall at this page on their website:

https://www.salsacromotostem.com/
Ok so is that info saying the recalled stems have the hash mark or the replacement stems have the hash mark?

Mine doesn't have it:



So is it a good stem or bad?
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