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You're such a rebel, stickin' it to "the man" like that.
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#52
incazzare.
Look, you and I both know they're hoping for dumb buyers who will assume the shipping is reasonable and only notice after they've bought it. Yes, that does require a dumb buyer and it's their own fault for missing that--however, setting up an auction to exploit that kind of buyer is deceptive and in my opinion unethical. I don't know why you would defend that behavior, but that's your choice.
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#53
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Not at all.
It's being added to the shipping. So instead of being assessed fees for putting the item up for sale, as every other seller is, this guy is adding it to the shipping and handling charges which is against eBay policy.
What items and actions allowed to be covered in the shipping charges are outlined in the eBay policy.
It's being added to the shipping. So instead of being assessed fees for putting the item up for sale, as every other seller is, this guy is adding it to the shipping and handling charges which is against eBay policy.
What items and actions allowed to be covered in the shipping charges are outlined in the eBay policy.
It's my understanding that ebay now attaches fees to the S&H cost in order to get around practices like this, which were very common for a while.
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I recall seeing outrageously low BIN prices but stupid high shipping charges.
It's an end-around.
It's an end-around.
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
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Doesn't seem like that big a deal to me. He has high shipping costs.
I assume that anyone buying online knows that some places have free shipping sometimes, and other times the buyer pays shipping, so unless free shipping is specified, people would know that a shipping charge is involved and would look to see how much it is.
I assume that anyone buying online knows that some places have free shipping sometimes, and other times the buyer pays shipping, so unless free shipping is specified, people would know that a shipping charge is involved and would look to see how much it is.
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Doesn't seem like that big a deal to me. He has high shipping costs.
I assume that anyone buying online knows that some places have free shipping sometimes, and other times the buyer pays shipping, so unless free shipping is specified, people would know that a shipping charge is involved and would look to see how much it is.
I assume that anyone buying online knows that some places have free shipping sometimes, and other times the buyer pays shipping, so unless free shipping is specified, people would know that a shipping charge is involved and would look to see how much it is.
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So tell me where the shipping charge is in this ad:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Vintage...p2047675.l2557
Shipping: $30.37 Economy Shipping | See details
Item location:
Cape Elizabeth, Maine, United States
Ships to:
Worldwide
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Vintage...p2047675.l2557
Shipping: $30.37 Economy Shipping | See details
Item location:
Cape Elizabeth, Maine, United States
Ships to:
Worldwide
#58
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It's interesting that they note they'll refund the item cost if there's an issue, but they will not refund the shipping and handling. Normally that would make sense, but in this case it means they don't refund the "PAAS" cost they've added into the s&h. There's no grey area on that one, that's totally unfair.
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So tell me where the shipping charge is in this ad:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Vintage...p2047675.l2557
Shipping: $30.37 Economy Shipping | See details
Item location:
Cape Elizabeth, Maine, United States
Ships to:
Worldwide
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Vintage...p2047675.l2557
Shipping: $30.37 Economy Shipping | See details
Item location:
Cape Elizabeth, Maine, United States
Ships to:
Worldwide
Frame and Wheel rating: Good condition
Frame and Wheel PAAS charge: $20.00
What amazes me is that they get $100+/shipped for those.
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Not really. The only reason $30.37 shows is bacuse you entered a zip code. The PAAS is suppose to include shipping. So is it $30.37? Or is it $20? And why is it different based on zip code? A USPS flat raye box is $11.
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Look, you and I both know they're hoping for dumb buyers who will assume the shipping is reasonable and only notice after they've bought it. Yes, that does require a dumb buyer and it's their own fault for missing that--however, setting up an auction to exploit that kind of buyer is deceptive and in my opinion unethical. I don't know why you would defend that behavior, but that's your choice.
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Jim, I really have no idea, and if I were planning on buying from the seller I would ask for clarification first. Why don't you ask him yourself, since you seem to be worked up about it?
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I gotta start doing this in my business. It seems to be the thing to do. I'm always put back by businesses that charge you extra to take your money. A convenience fee. Convenient for them.
And now everytime I get my car repaired there is a EPA fee of some kind. And don't get me started on school fees!
And now everytime I get my car repaired there is a EPA fee of some kind. And don't get me started on school fees!
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But basically, his customers paid for his quality, but it was because of his quality. They chose to follow his auctions into the stratosphere.
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I e-mailed this seller and asked if local pickup was ok as I was, well ........ LOCAL. I was told no local pickup. I guess they just want to rule out any buyers in the Phoenix area.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/190984197939...84.m1436.l2649
I think a minimum bid price would be the wiser way to go, this is deceptive selling at best IMHO.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/190984197939...84.m1436.l2649
I think a minimum bid price would be the wiser way to go, this is deceptive selling at best IMHO.
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Whatever you think of the sellers methods might not matter. Judging by his positive feedback, it seems his paying customers aren't too worried.
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you must not know what a headache local pickup can be. I have a bike I built FOR a local who has not picked it up yet. I'm ready to sell it off and be done with it.
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You make a lot of assumptions about my knickers.
Don't get me wrong, they're quite adorable. But I'm sure you knew that, otherwise you wouldn't be obsessing about them on a public forum. I know you're hoping they're my lucky knickers. Really, any knickers I wear are my lucky knickers. Then again, there's really no luck needed.
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Seller is making two mistakes:
1. He is charging too much for shipping.
2. He is giving WAY too much information justifying his high shipping.
Really, if he wants to overcharge for shipping, a short comment: "My shipping rates include a small fee for packing and handling."
IMHO, sellers who charge for handling will get dinged on the detailed seller ratings which will keep him from top rated seller status (juicy discounts from ebay for sellers). This is one reason at least half of my items go with "free shipping".
As a buyer, myself, I would still vote with my feet and look elsewhere.
1. He is charging too much for shipping.
2. He is giving WAY too much information justifying his high shipping.
Really, if he wants to overcharge for shipping, a short comment: "My shipping rates include a small fee for packing and handling."
IMHO, sellers who charge for handling will get dinged on the detailed seller ratings which will keep him from top rated seller status (juicy discounts from ebay for sellers). This is one reason at least half of my items go with "free shipping".
As a buyer, myself, I would still vote with my feet and look elsewhere.
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Communication is the key. As always, your mileage will vary.
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I tend to give buyers a window of where I will be for about 2 hours. Usually, it's a place I'm going to be anyway. They have to show up in that time window.
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