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Old 07-20-14 | 11:36 PM
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Namer the frame

I noticed this frame sitting on the ledge at the front entrance to a home in Vancouver, at the time I thought it was something very basic so I did not look closer, however after examining the image further it appears to be a decent one. Anyone have any ideas? I cannot get my image any larger at the moment and will be checking the frame again sometime later this week. If it turns out to be a worthy marque and model I may try and see if it can be purchased, assuming no damage as it obviously has no fork. By the way, can someone fix my error on the title of the post?

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Old 07-20-14 | 11:46 PM
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Based on colour and style of lugs my guess would be an early 80's Japanese Bridgstone.
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Old 07-21-14 | 12:06 AM
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It appears to have no brazed on cable guides so perhaps late '70's or earlier I would think.
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Old 07-21-14 | 07:18 AM
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Wasn't the '70s Sears Ted Williams Reynolds 531 frame that color? If it is one, and the headbadge reads "Sears" that might explain why someone thought it was better used for art/decorating then restored and ridden.
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Old 07-21-14 | 11:01 AM
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It certainly does seem consistent with the 531 Ted Williams. The headbadge looks to be the same, as well. The headlugs look to have a rim around where the headset would seat, too, which is a good sign.
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Old 07-21-14 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
Wasn't the '70s Sears Ted Williams Reynolds 531 frame that color? If it is one, and the headbadge reads "Sears" that might explain why someone thought it was better used for art/decorating then restored and ridden.

You can read the head badge?

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Old 07-21-14 | 11:41 AM
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Is it me or does it look like the letters R I and possibly D at the lower part of the head badge just between the loop on the lighting cable ?
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Old 07-21-14 | 11:49 AM
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Viner?
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Old 07-21-14 | 11:55 AM
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You can read the head badge?

Sure can. Just resample the image, Bianchigirl. What starts with a "Bia"? LOL That can't be a Bianchi!
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Old 07-21-14 | 12:06 PM
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That's got everyone thinking
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Old 07-21-14 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Randy
Sure can. Just resample the image, Bianchigirl. What starts with a "Bia"? LOL That can't be a Bianchi!
I think you're looking at the tag on the lights
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Old 07-21-14 | 12:36 PM
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Bulbs great i've been looking for Head badges with bulbs written on them
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If the lights are original to the frame,
Maybe...Uhmmmmm......a Della Santa or a Clause Butler.....
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Old 07-21-14 | 03:41 PM
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You have to go back for a closer look, Vintage Ride. Watch out for the alligator under the bike. These people may be into voodoo.


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Old 07-21-14 | 06:28 PM
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I guess I better get down there fairly soon and find out what it is - though if it is something worthwhile it would be a shame if the fork was gone, not too difficult to find a replacement I suppose. I was too busy riding around on my Raleigh to take the time to really check it out.
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Originally Posted by Chombi
If the lights are original to the frame,
Maybe...Uhmmmmm......a Della Santa or a Clause Butler.....
Chombi, I didn't know you had it in you.
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Viner?

+1. It has a vine on it. What else do you need to know?
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Old 07-26-14 | 11:17 AM
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can't decipher the headbadge, my monitor just isn't that sharp (nor my eyesight) but those might be Simplex dropouts...if so, not a Bridgestone and not sure about the Ted William's Sears (Puch) frames as I thought the good ones were Campy-equipt.
and agree with diegofrogs that they probably are BCM headlugs...pointing to several possibilities, none JP though, many FR or other EU brands.

Edit, If they are game, I'd offer to swap them a bicycle-frame-shaped trellis (you could whip up out of lath in a trice)...and they'd have a more appropriate base for their lights and plants...you'd have another bike project: win-win!

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Old 07-26-14 | 02:18 PM
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I will be going out for an evening ride today and will check it out - hope the owners do not mind!
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Old 07-27-14 | 04:18 PM
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I checked it out yesterday, I was not able to talk to anyone about it but perhaps some of these closeups will help , It has been painted, plus there is a label on the head tube that is not related to a marque just something someone liked. Sorry some of the shots are not focused properly.


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Bocama lugs but that is about all I can figure at this point.
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Old 07-28-14 | 01:03 AM
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Yep,those are BCM lugs and the brakebridge has diamond reinforcements and was for nutted brakes, BB shell looks kind of distinctive (a little like an EKLA, a Belgian brand) but the weirdest thing is that there's a sealed-bearing type cup in it, and that would point to either British or Italian threads, or it's a cup that doesn't fit that shell. The stay caps are common crimped-flat similar to what many FR frames had...I'd say Brit, Belgian or French at this point.

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