Is it a bad thing when commuting is hip?
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When commuting by bike becomes hip nationwide, we will know that we have entered the end times.
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#55
I'm not sure how this turned into an "anti hipster" thread 
but...
Personally *I* don't think the video in the OP does much to promote long term commuting. It seems more of a promo for bike to work day.
but...
Personally *I* don't think the video in the OP does much to promote long term commuting. It seems more of a promo for bike to work day.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn29DvMITu4
I went to art school just as the hipster thing was taking hold. The things I have seen cannot be unseen.
(Also, as much fun as I make of hipsters, I make more fun of myself, and acknowledge how ridiculous my sausage-esque physique looks when I squeeze it into spandex.)
ETA: Is anyone else having trouble posting YouTube vids?
I went to art school just as the hipster thing was taking hold. The things I have seen cannot be unseen.
(Also, as much fun as I make of hipsters, I make more fun of myself, and acknowledge how ridiculous my sausage-esque physique looks when I squeeze it into spandex.)
ETA: Is anyone else having trouble posting YouTube vids?
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Heck if you're riding a bike to work you're commuting, you're not posing. Lots of people off bikes dress differently from me I'm not surprised to see people on bikes not wearing the same outfit as me either.
Also, the more people biking, the closer we get to that mythical 'critical mass' where drivers actually recognize us as fellow street users not as obstacles.
Also, the more people biking, the closer we get to that mythical 'critical mass' where drivers actually recognize us as fellow street users not as obstacles.
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I like the video. What I don't know is how "hip" is it really? Is that a subculture that a lot of 20 somethings relate to or do the majority of people in that age group find the clothes, the bikes, and the lifestyle as unappealing to them as it is apparently to some of us?
Again I liked it. Anything that promotes bike use over cars among a younger crowd is a good thing. When I was that age people were more into cramming thousands of dollars worth of audio equipment into a $200 car.
Again I liked it. Anything that promotes bike use over cars among a younger crowd is a good thing. When I was that age people were more into cramming thousands of dollars worth of audio equipment into a $200 car.
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The only thing I didn't like about the video was some of the camera work; I kept wanting to shout, "Pan over, you idiot!" when the cyclist was drifting out of the frame. But maybe that's a hip new filming style that I don't understand. 
But no, it's not a bad thing when commuting is hip. As long as un-hip guys like me are still welcome! And really, most of the people I see riding their bikes to work are dressed a lot like me anyway. The video seems like it was aimed at a particular demographic, and I'm okay with that.

But no, it's not a bad thing when commuting is hip. As long as un-hip guys like me are still welcome! And really, most of the people I see riding their bikes to work are dressed a lot like me anyway. The video seems like it was aimed at a particular demographic, and I'm okay with that.
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I like the video. What I don't know is how "hip" is it really? Is that a subculture that a lot of 20 somethings relate to or do the majority of people in that age group find the clothes, the bikes, and the lifestyle as unappealing to them as it is apparently to some of us?
Again I liked it. Anything that promotes bike use over cars among a younger crowd is a good thing. When I was that age people were more into cramming thousands of dollars worth of audio equipment into a $200 car.
Again I liked it. Anything that promotes bike use over cars among a younger crowd is a good thing. When I was that age people were more into cramming thousands of dollars worth of audio equipment into a $200 car.
YMMV, and all that. This is just what I've observed among my peers.
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I'm not going to gripe about the commuter in the tight miniskirt and high heels I occasionally encounter. Riders like that can do a lot for our cause!
But I also see a lot of folks so inappropriately equipped that I know they got into it because it's the hot new thing, and unfortunately they won't stay with it for more than a couple weeks unless they get more practical.
But I also see a lot of folks so inappropriately equipped that I know they got into it because it's the hot new thing, and unfortunately they won't stay with it for more than a couple weeks unless they get more practical.
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I live in a pretty bike friendly city.
Hip or not ... I rather see more people riding than less.
Hip or not ... I rather see more people riding than less.
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But that is just my rant for the day since I had to work on a TT bike with S80s the other day and I was ready to beat the bike to death (Aero TT bikes are horrendous to re-cable, they take the simplest parts of the bike and then "aero" them which makes them damn near impossible to work with, then the S80 wheels didn
t even have the valve extenders installed properly, ughhh)
One thing that kills me is when ive got "poseurs" who come into the shop, who have got the total "wannabe" bike messenger thing going, in order to get a flat fixed. Hell, real messengers come into the shop all the time, I was a messenger at one time, and while there is an okay number who actually fit the stereotype the real thing that makes a messenger a messenger is that their bikes are scratched, dirty, most of the time broken in some way and considered disposable.
But in general I would answer the over-arching question by saying: no. There was this one girl who came into the shop who didn't even know how to fix a flat, she asked for a lesson and then a month later she comes in, she has fixed her flat tires multiple times and is doing a 13 mile 1-way commute every day on her hybrid. I was truly impressed, if bike commuting being "hip" brings out more people like her then I say bring it on.
What annoys me is when bike commuters don't want to spend ANYTHING on their bikes, they wont buy a pump, a lock, a half-way decent bike, lubricant, or anything. Then they act with outrage when you tell them that; yes, bike commuting does indeed take maintenance and money, less then a car, but it is not an eternally free transportation mode.
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Nor, do I know BK ... but, NYC seems to do their own thing (fashion-wise), mostly.