New BSO long-term test!
#401
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The bus is £4.50 ($7.50) round-trip for me. I find that quite expensive for a 18km ride (11.2 miles)
So, I need to ride 88 commutes or 1584km to break even on the cost of the bike, lock, lights and cycloputer.
So, I'm half way there
#402
My first goal is to have the cost of bike covered in bus savings.
The bus is £4.50 ($7.50) round-trip for me. I find that quite expensive for a 18km ride (11.2 miles)
So, I need to ride 88 commutes or 1584km to break even on the cost of the bike, lock, lights and cycloputer.
So, I'm half way there
The bus is £4.50 ($7.50) round-trip for me. I find that quite expensive for a 18km ride (11.2 miles)
So, I need to ride 88 commutes or 1584km to break even on the cost of the bike, lock, lights and cycloputer.
So, I'm half way there

#403
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Bikes: Leader 725, Centurion Turbo, Scwhinn Peloton, Schwinn Premis, GT Tequesta, Bridgestone CB-2,72' Centurion Lemans, 72 Raleigh Competition
My first goal is to have the cost of bike covered in bus savings.
The bus is £4.50 ($7.50) round-trip for me. I find that quite expensive for a 18km ride (11.2 miles)
So, I need to ride 88 commutes or 1584km to break even on the cost of the bike, lock, lights and cycloputer.
So, I'm half way there
The bus is £4.50 ($7.50) round-trip for me. I find that quite expensive for a 18km ride (11.2 miles)
So, I need to ride 88 commutes or 1584km to break even on the cost of the bike, lock, lights and cycloputer.
So, I'm half way there

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the pubs are quite good ...
i think keeping my transportation costs around zero is a good thing
it is interesting as emotionally I think £4.50 isn't so much but $7.50 is a huge amount.
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From: England / CPH
Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
stats:
856km/532mi
£396/$662 total
£0.46/km
€0.56/km
$1.24/mi
goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:
7239km/4495mi
£267/$438
3.7p/km
4.4c/km
9.7¢/mi
and of Slaninar:
12700km/7891mi
£703/€849/$1160
5.5p/km
6.7c/km
14.7¢/mi
photos:

856km/532mi
£396/$662 total
£0.46/km
€0.56/km
$1.24/mi
goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:
7239km/4495mi
£267/$438
3.7p/km
4.4c/km
9.7¢/mi
and of Slaninar:
12700km/7891mi
£703/€849/$1160
5.5p/km
6.7c/km
14.7¢/mi
photos:
#407
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update ...

+£25/€30.5/$41.8 to be added to next total ... there goes the ratios
tired of having a wet ass at the pub!
+£25/€30.5/$41.8 to be added to next total ... there goes the ratios
tired of having a wet ass at the pub!
Last edited by acidfast7; 02-18-14 at 01:58 AM.
#408
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Bikes: Heavy, with friction shifters
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Nobody likes a wet ass at the pub.
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Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
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--Ben
2006 Trek SU100, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, 2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
Non-Bike hardware: MX Linux / BunsenLabs Linux / Raspbian / Mac OS 10.6 / Android 7
#412
https://ass-savers.com/ is what a lot of guys use around here
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From: England / CPH
Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
stats:
875km/543mi
£421/$703 total
£0.48/km
€0.58/km
$1.29/mi
goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:
7239km/4495mi
£267/$438
3.7p/km
4.4c/km
9.7¢/mi
and of Slaninar:
12700km/7891mi
£703/€849/$1160
5.5p/km
6.7c/km
14.7¢/mi
photos:

875km/543mi
£421/$703 total
£0.48/km
€0.58/km
$1.29/mi
goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:
7239km/4495mi
£267/$438
3.7p/km
4.4c/km
9.7¢/mi
and of Slaninar:
12700km/7891mi
£703/€849/$1160
5.5p/km
6.7c/km
14.7¢/mi
photos:
#414
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From: Burlington Iowa
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
Photo of $99 fixed gear/single speed freewheel bike with flashy/gaudy color scheme currently sold at Walmart. Has 622 x 40mm tires so should provide a reasonably comfy ride while providing the alleged benefits of a super cheap fixed gear/freewheel single speed bike for commuting. One local college age man rides one of these every day to the gym; he seems pleased with it. He probably doesn't read BF so is uninformed about the "horrors" of ownership of such a bike.
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Photo of $99 fixed gear/single speed freewheel bike with flashy/gaudy color scheme currently sold at Walmart. Has 622 x 40mm tires so should provide a reasonably comfy ride while providing the alleged benefits of a super cheap fixed gear/freewheel single speed bike for commuting. One local college age man rides one of these every day to the gym; he seems pleased with it. He probably doesn't read BF so is uninformed about the "horrors" of ownership of such a bike.

They are sold for around 50 euros in decent condition, but LBS couldn't find me a BB (didn't want to edit the frame to fit the modern BBs) for it, so my grandma's 1950s SS had to get retired. I'm still using it's mudguards on my current commuter.
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Photo of $99 fixed gear/single speed freewheel bike with flashy/gaudy color scheme currently sold at Walmart. Has 622 x 40mm tires so should provide a reasonably comfy ride while providing the alleged benefits of a super cheap fixed gear/freewheel single speed bike for commuting. One local college age man rides one of these every day to the gym; he seems pleased with it. He probably doesn't read BF so is uninformed about the "horrors" of ownership of such a bike.
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"BSOs" like this one were mass produced and sold rather cheap back in the days. Before "SS" was hip, this was the default bike. Geared ones were exotic. "Fivespeeders" and "Tenspeeders".

They are sold for around 50 euros in decent condition, but LBS couldn't find me a BB (didn't want to edit the frame to fit the modern BBs) for it, so my grandma's 1950s SS had to get retired. I'm still using it's mudguards on my current commuter.

They are sold for around 50 euros in decent condition, but LBS couldn't find me a BB (didn't want to edit the frame to fit the modern BBs) for it, so my grandma's 1950s SS had to get retired. I'm still using it's mudguards on my current commuter.
#418
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Bikes: 2007 Trek SU100, 2009 Fantom CX, 2012 Fantom Cross Uno, Bakfiets
One the one hand, a chain tensioner. $15 per pair, but I am only using one, so $8.
On the other... I broke 5000mi.
Thus,
8093km/5029mi
$446
$.089/mi
$.055/km ($US/km is kind of a funny metric
)
I have new bar tape coming. Shipping the bike cross-country UPS and breaking down and reconstituting the bike last year was rough on the bar tape.
On the other... I broke 5000mi.
Thus,
8093km/5029mi
$446
$.089/mi
$.055/km ($US/km is kind of a funny metric
)I have new bar tape coming. Shipping the bike cross-country UPS and breaking down and reconstituting the bike last year was rough on the bar tape.
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2006 Trek SU100, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, 2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
Non-Bike hardware: MX Linux / BunsenLabs Linux / Raspbian / Mac OS 10.6 / Android 7
--Ben
2006 Trek SU100, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, 2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
Non-Bike hardware: MX Linux / BunsenLabs Linux / Raspbian / Mac OS 10.6 / Android 7
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#419
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From: Scranton, PA, USA
Bikes: '77 Centurion "Pro Tour"; '67 Carlton "The Flyer"; 1984 Ross MTB (stored at parents' house)
It wouldn't look out of place here in Lund or in Malmö, either! I have to start taking pictures of some of the cool chainguards that I see, too.
I was surprised to find that my local grocery store stocks bicycle tubes and patch kits, but the tubes all have Dunlop valves! I've never seen them before in the USA!!
I was surprised to find that my local grocery store stocks bicycle tubes and patch kits, but the tubes all have Dunlop valves! I've never seen them before in the USA!!
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It wouldn't look out of place here in Lund or in Malmö, either! I have to start taking pictures of some of the cool chainguards that I see, too.
I was surprised to find that my local grocery store stocks bicycle tubes and patch kits, but the tubes all have Dunlop valves! I've never seen them before in the USA!!
I was surprised to find that my local grocery store stocks bicycle tubes and patch kits, but the tubes all have Dunlop valves! I've never seen them before in the USA!!
Kan du nu pratar svenska?
God natt och hej då!
#421
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From: England / CPH
Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
stats:
896km/556mi
£421/$702 total
£0.47/km
€0.57/km
$1.26/mi
goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:
8093km/5029mi
£267/$446
3.3p/km
4.0c/km
8.8¢/mi
and of Slaninar:
12700km/7891mi
£703/€849/$1160
5.5p/km
6.7c/km
14.7¢/mi
photos:

896km/556mi
£421/$702 total
£0.47/km
€0.57/km
$1.26/mi
goal is to catch up to the ratios of bigbenaugust:
8093km/5029mi
£267/$446
3.3p/km
4.0c/km
8.8¢/mi
and of Slaninar:
12700km/7891mi
£703/€849/$1160
5.5p/km
6.7c/km
14.7¢/mi
photos:
#422
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From: England / CPH
Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
One the one hand, a chain tensioner. $15 per pair, but I am only using one, so $8.
On the other... I broke 5000mi.
Thus,
8093km/5029mi
$446
$.089/mi
$.055/km ($US/km is kind of a funny metric
)
I have new bar tape coming. Shipping the bike cross-country UPS and breaking down and reconstituting the bike last year was rough on the bar tape.
On the other... I broke 5000mi.
Thus,
8093km/5029mi
$446
$.089/mi
$.055/km ($US/km is kind of a funny metric
)I have new bar tape coming. Shipping the bike cross-country UPS and breaking down and reconstituting the bike last year was rough on the bar tape.
#423
Hogosha Sekai

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 6,674
Likes: 26
From: STS
Bikes: Leader 725, Centurion Turbo, Scwhinn Peloton, Schwinn Premis, GT Tequesta, Bridgestone CB-2,72' Centurion Lemans, 72 Raleigh Competition
Photo of $99 fixed gear/single speed freewheel bike with flashy/gaudy color scheme currently sold at Walmart. Has 622 x 40mm tires so should provide a reasonably comfy ride while providing the alleged benefits of a super cheap fixed gear/freewheel single speed bike for commuting. One local college age man rides one of these every day to the gym; he seems pleased with it. He probably doesn't read BF so is uninformed about the "horrors" of ownership of such a bike.
And hypothetical question for Acid:
If I were to want to valuate my commuter for the purposes of working out one of these ratios what would you think would be a good starting point considering:
1:Frameset/fork/headset/seatpost and binder were freebies
2: Wheelset/tires/tubes/chain/cranks/chain/stem/bars/levers etc etc etc came from parts pile
3: I think I bought it a bar mounted bottle cage for about 6 bucks.. this is the only purchase I can remember making for this bike.
I think you can see my problem here as I don't feel $6 is necessarily a good valuation but that's where it stands in my mind.
Last edited by RaleighSport; 02-19-14 at 05:49 PM.
#424
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Should I be shunned since I keep an eye out for sales on those? If I see one new for 60 and still boxed not built I'm gonna be on it like white on rice.
And hypothetical question for Acid:
If I were to want to valuate my commuter for the purposes of working out one of these ratios what would you think would be a good starting point considering:
1:Frameset/fork/headset/seatpost and binder were freebies
2: Wheelset/tires/tubes/chain/cranks/chain/stem/bars/levers etc etc etc came from parts pile
3: I think I bought it a bar mounted bottle cage for about 6 bucks.. this is the only purchase I can remember making for this bike.
I think you can see my problem here as I don't feel $6 is necessarily a good valuation but that's where it stands in my mind.
And hypothetical question for Acid:
If I were to want to valuate my commuter for the purposes of working out one of these ratios what would you think would be a good starting point considering:
1:Frameset/fork/headset/seatpost and binder were freebies
2: Wheelset/tires/tubes/chain/cranks/chain/stem/bars/levers etc etc etc came from parts pile
3: I think I bought it a bar mounted bottle cage for about 6 bucks.. this is the only purchase I can remember making for this bike.
I think you can see my problem here as I don't feel $6 is necessarily a good valuation but that's where it stands in my mind.
What do you think is a reasonable cost estimate for the bike? How much would it have cost to replace when you originally had "0" miles/km on it?
Just give us some numbers
#425
Hogosha Sekai

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From: STS
Bikes: Leader 725, Centurion Turbo, Scwhinn Peloton, Schwinn Premis, GT Tequesta, Bridgestone CB-2,72' Centurion Lemans, 72 Raleigh Competition
I enjoy wrenching and it gives me peace of mind... so I consider it a no loss when I'm working on my own bikes. If I were to replace it now.. a comparable bike would probably be 400-500 new via something like bikes direct. I'll fudge up some numbers later.




