New BSO long-term test!
#901
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Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
stats:
2982km/1852mi
£544/$865 total
£0.18/km
€0.23/km
$0.46/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 7 days (£32.9) = £191.20/$302.81
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2982km/1852mi
£544/$865 total
£0.18/km
€0.23/km
$0.46/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 7 days (£32.9) = £191.20/$302.81
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#902
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Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
stats:
3001km/1864mi
£544/$865 total
£0.18/km
€0.23/km
$0.46/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 8 days (£37.6) = £195.90/$311.70
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3001km/1864mi
£544/$865 total
£0.18/km
€0.23/km
$0.46/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 8 days (£37.6) = £195.90/$311.70
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#903
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just for a fun comparison:
to drive 3000km in my 1994 Audi A4, which gets 7.5l/100km mixed driving (31.36mpg mixed) ...
the fuel would cost 127.2p/l (2.03 USD/l or 7.68USD/gal) or
for 225l (30 x 75.l/100km)
alternatively, it would cost 287GBP (the cost of the bike) or 456USD.
interestingly, that's 157 bus commutes at 4.7GBP/commute or 742GBP (1181 USD)
a yearly pass is: 560GBP / 891 USD
so, the bike is quite cheap in the end.
edit: car specs for B5 A4 1.6L 8V: https://www.automobile-catalog.com/ca...di_a4_1_6.html
to drive 3000km in my 1994 Audi A4, which gets 7.5l/100km mixed driving (31.36mpg mixed) ...
the fuel would cost 127.2p/l (2.03 USD/l or 7.68USD/gal) or
for 225l (30 x 75.l/100km)
alternatively, it would cost 287GBP (the cost of the bike) or 456USD.
interestingly, that's 157 bus commutes at 4.7GBP/commute or 742GBP (1181 USD)
a yearly pass is: 560GBP / 891 USD
so, the bike is quite cheap in the end.
edit: car specs for B5 A4 1.6L 8V: https://www.automobile-catalog.com/ca...di_a4_1_6.html
Last edited by acidfast7; 11-12-14 at 03:52 AM.
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From: England / CPH
Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
stats:
3020km/1876mi
£544/$865 total
£0.18/km
€0.22/km
$0.46/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 9 days (£42.3) = £200.60/$316.36
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3020km/1876mi
£544/$865 total
£0.18/km
€0.22/km
$0.46/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 9 days (£42.3) = £200.60/$316.36
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#905
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I think I can sneak one more day of commuting in and then I'm off for a week to Frankfurt to move some strains from my old research group over to the UK.
A lot of travel this year, as I've only needed gone over 13 commutes once so far (16/month is my theoretical maximum)! Passport is getting full again, need more pages added quite soon.
A lot of travel this year, as I've only needed gone over 13 commutes once so far (16/month is my theoretical maximum)! Passport is getting full again, need more pages added quite soon.
#906
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From: England / CPH
Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
stats:
3038km/1887mi
£544/$865 total
£0.17/km
€0.22/km
$0.45/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) = £205.30/$322.48
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3038km/1887mi
£544/$865 total
£0.17/km
€0.22/km
$0.45/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) = £205.30/$322.48
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#907
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Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
stats:
3057km/1899mi
£544/$865 total
£0.17/km
€0.22/km
$0.45/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 1 day (£4.7) = £210/$329.97
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3057km/1899mi
£544/$865 total
£0.17/km
€0.22/km
$0.45/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 1 day (£4.7) = £210/$329.97
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#908
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From: England / CPH
Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
stats:
3076km/1911mi
£544/$865 total
£0.17/km
€0.22/km
$0.45/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 2 days (£9.4) = £215.7/$340.88
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3076km/1911mi
£544/$865 total
£0.17/km
€0.22/km
$0.45/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 2 days (£9.4) = £215.7/$340.88
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#909
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Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
stats:
3095km/1923mi
£544/$865 total
£0.17/km
€0.22/km
$0.44/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 3 days (£14.1) = £220.4/$345.74
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3095km/1923mi
£544/$865 total
£0.17/km
€0.22/km
$0.44/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 3 days (£14.1) = £220.4/$345.74
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long time!
spend a lot of time in the south dealing with getting a car sorted for my gf, a bunch of visitors from germany with much champange and a lot of teaching this week, so I haven't been riding as much as I'd like. on the upside, I'll be in germany for a long period such that I can get some time on the old MTB and drink some Glühwein at the Christmas Markets!
flat tire (tube) was £2.99 to replace (as of today that is $4.7, so I'll round to $5 and add it to the total)!
however, i did hit the pothole so hard that I think I broke the sidewall carcass on my rear gatorskin ... it now has a slight bulge
... but I'll run it until it fails.
stats:
3132km/1946mi
£547/$870 total
£0.17/km
€0.21/km
$0.44/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 5 days (£23.5) = £229.8/$360.80
net maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
still on top (but the chain is in dire need of lubrication)
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spend a lot of time in the south dealing with getting a car sorted for my gf, a bunch of visitors from germany with much champange and a lot of teaching this week, so I haven't been riding as much as I'd like. on the upside, I'll be in germany for a long period such that I can get some time on the old MTB and drink some Glühwein at the Christmas Markets!
flat tire (tube) was £2.99 to replace (as of today that is $4.7, so I'll round to $5 and add it to the total)!
however, i did hit the pothole so hard that I think I broke the sidewall carcass on my rear gatorskin ... it now has a slight bulge
... but I'll run it until it fails.stats:
3132km/1946mi
£547/$870 total
£0.17/km
€0.21/km
$0.44/mi
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 5 days (£23.5) = £229.8/$360.80
net maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
still on top (but the chain is in dire need of lubrication)
photos:
#912
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counting down the days until Christmas in Germany 
snowed in England today
stats:
3151km/1957mi
£547/$870 total
£0.17/km
€0.21/km
$0.44/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 6 days (£28.2) = £234.5/$368.86
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £231.5 / $364.15
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snowed in England today

stats:
3151km/1957mi
£547/$870 total
£0.17/km
€0.21/km
$0.44/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 6 days (£28.2) = £234.5/$368.86
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £231.5 / $364.15
photos:
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£3 for a tube? That's a lot less than we pay here in local bike shops. Was it a regular shop?
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just for a fun comparison:
to drive 3000km in my 1994 Audi A4, which gets 7.5l/100km mixed driving (31.36mpg mixed) ...
the fuel would cost 127.2p/l (2.03 USD/l or 7.68USD/gal) or
for 225l (30 x 75.l/100km)
alternatively, it would cost 287GBP (the cost of the bike) or 456USD.
interestingly, that's 157 bus commutes at 4.7GBP/commute or 742GBP (1181 USD)
a yearly pass is: 560GBP / 891 USD
so, the bike is quite cheap in the end.
edit: car specs for B5 A4 1.6L 8V: 1996 Audi A4 1.6 (for Europe ) specs review
to drive 3000km in my 1994 Audi A4, which gets 7.5l/100km mixed driving (31.36mpg mixed) ...
the fuel would cost 127.2p/l (2.03 USD/l or 7.68USD/gal) or
for 225l (30 x 75.l/100km)
alternatively, it would cost 287GBP (the cost of the bike) or 456USD.
interestingly, that's 157 bus commutes at 4.7GBP/commute or 742GBP (1181 USD)
a yearly pass is: 560GBP / 891 USD
so, the bike is quite cheap in the end.
edit: car specs for B5 A4 1.6L 8V: 1996 Audi A4 1.6 (for Europe ) specs review
In your calculation, you listed the purchase price of the bike - but not the automobile. I would think that the cost of both (pro-rated by the miles of commute time versus miles in other uses) should be factored.
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I haven't completed the car sale yet. This will be completed in early 2015 and I'll produce a 5 year total usage pattern.
Roughly so far:
Purchased Apr 2010 for €2800. Sold Apr 2015 for ??? (expecting about €2000).
Driven 57000km (113k upon buying and predicted 170k upon selling).
Insurance (€700/year)
Maintenance: total expenditure over 5 years has been roughly €2000.
Hopefully, the newly purchased 2011 Golf will be cheaper to run than the older Audi A4.
Will crunch numbers once car has been sold in Germany.
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A nice "Adventskalender" with a different Bio/Öko-porridge for every morning.

https://adventskalender-weihnachten.d...-von-mymuesli/
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stats:
3170km/1969mi
£547/$870 total
£0.17/km
€0.21/km
$0.44/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 7 days (£32.9) = £242.2/$380.49
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £239.2/ $375.77
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3170km/1969mi
£547/$870 total
£0.17/km
€0.21/km
$0.44/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 7 days (£32.9) = £242.2/$380.49
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £239.2/ $375.77
photos:
#920
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Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
stats:
3189km/1981mi
£547/$870 total
£0.17/km
€0.21/km
$0.43/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 8 days (£37.6) = £246.9/$384.44
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £243.9/$379.76
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3189km/1981mi
£547/$870 total
£0.17/km
€0.21/km
$0.43/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 8 days (£37.6) = £246.9/$384.44
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £243.9/$379.76
photos:
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Last ride of the year ... will update the car calculation above when the old Audi is sold.
Next ride commute is second week in Jan!
stats:
3208km/1993mi
£547/$870 total
£0.17/km
€0.21/km
$0.43/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 9 days (£42.3) = £251.6/$393.80
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £248.6/ $389.11
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Next ride commute is second week in Jan!
stats:
3208km/1993mi
£547/$870 total
£0.17/km
€0.21/km
$0.43/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 9 days (£42.3) = £251.6/$393.80
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £248.6/ $389.11
photos:
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FIRST COMMUTE IN 2015
stats:
3226km/2004mi
£547/$870 total
£0.16/km
€0.21/km
$0.43/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 9 days (£42.3) + 1 day (£4.7) = £256.3/$387.60
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £253.3/ $383.06
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stats:
3226km/2004mi
£547/$870 total
£0.16/km
€0.21/km
$0.43/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 9 days (£42.3) + 1 day (£4.7) = £256.3/$387.60
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £253.3/ $383.06
photos:
#924
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From: England / CPH
Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
stats:
3245km/2016mi
£547/$870 total
£0.16/km
€0.21/km
$0.43/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 9 days (£42.3) + 2 day (£9.4) = £261/$393.95
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £258/$389.42
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3245km/2016mi
£547/$870 total
£0.16/km
€0.21/km
$0.43/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 9 days (£42.3) + 2 day (£9.4) = £261/$393.95
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £258/$389.42
photos:
#925
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From: England / CPH
Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS
stats:
3263km/2027mi
£547/$870 total
£0.16/km
€0.21/km
$0.42/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 9 days (£42.3) + 3 days (£14.1) = £265.7/$404.31
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £262.7/$399.47
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3263km/2027mi
£547/$870 total
£0.16/km
€0.21/km
$0.42/mi
money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £69 (1 month bus pass) + 8 days (£37.6) + 11 days (£51.7) + 10 days (£47) + 9 days (£42.3) + 3 days (£14.1) = £265.7/$404.31
maintenance since breaking even with the bike. £2.99/$4.7
net gain: £262.7/$399.47
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