New BSO long-term test!
#1003
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Bikes: 2007 Trek SU100, 2009 Fantom CX, 2012 Fantom Cross Uno, Bakfiets
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Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
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--Ben
2006 Trek SU100, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, 2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
Non-Bike hardware: MX Linux / BunsenLabs Linux / Raspbian / Mac OS 10.6 / Android 7
#1005
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Just a quick update ...
due to Brexit ... we opted not to buy a house and I haven't changed the bars on my bike and I've been running a lot recently.
Here's a shot from a morning jog recently
Hope all is well with you guys.
Also, I'm strongly considering Switzerland, but let's see where all of the cards lie.
Note: can I not upload photos directly any longer? Imgur only?
due to Brexit ... we opted not to buy a house and I haven't changed the bars on my bike and I've been running a lot recently.
Here's a shot from a morning jog recently

Hope all is well with you guys.
Also, I'm strongly considering Switzerland, but let's see where all of the cards lie.
Note: can I not upload photos directly any longer? Imgur only?
#1006
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From: Novi Sad
Bikes: Heavy, with friction shifters
Another similar "project". This one at half the price of Acidfast's. 162 euros new. We'll see how it fares and how much it costs in the long run...
Capriolo Sunrise - long term test - Cycle Gremlin
Capriolo Sunrise - long term test - Cycle Gremlin
#1007
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Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
By the looks of it (when assembled), it looks like you get a lot for the money. And then from your description of all the problems, it looks like you don't.
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#1008
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We'll see how it fares in the long run. For example, the budget wheels, it's unbelievable: cheap hubs that can be set up for either excessive drag, or slight play, not machined with precision. Rims without metal reinforced eyelets for nipples. Cheap spokes that rust rather quickly. They still last for ages on my beater bike - 5 seasons now for the front, 3 for the rear (since old one got busted by a car!). No pitting, no coming out of true, no spokes breaking even though they're completely rusted now.
Friend called after the first ride and he was very pleased. Said something like: "see, you don't need an expensive bike, just a well tuned, set up one".
If he sticks to his original plan, this will be 30+ kilometres 6 days a week, with some up and down hill riding. So a decent test for a commuter bicycle. His job is an office one, sitting all day, and I've already "converted" two guys to year round commuting by my example, this might be the third "aren't you cold in the winter?!" - then start doing it themselves "victim".

P.S. Is acidfast still alive, didn't see his posts in a while?
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#1010
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I just wanted to say that I bought a house in the UK (not the EU) and will cycle with the old bike in every day.
However, the bike has been in a British garage and it mouldy all over ...
but it will come back and beat this POS of Slaninar
However, the bike has been in a British garage and it mouldy all over ...
but it will come back and beat this POS of Slaninar
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I've been listening to some FM4 (Austrian) so I don't lose my German in the UK:
A couple of suggestions:
on Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/album/6gTrmIkn7RLL5iwNEIlHLf
and on Select track 2 *****es!
https://www.sandrakurzweil.com/music
good ****
tommorow the bike gets rebuilt and ridden every day next to the north see
A couple of suggestions:
on Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/album/6gTrmIkn7RLL5iwNEIlHLf
and on Select track 2 *****es!
https://www.sandrakurzweil.com/music
good ****
tommorow the bike gets rebuilt and ridden every day next to the north see
Last edited by acidfast7; 04-26-17 at 08:36 PM.
#1016
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Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
Good to see you back.
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Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
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#1018
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https://imgur.com/g89JhwE
Here we go again:
Just moved into the house, doing a full renovation but now I'm going to start commuting on bike.
Just cleaned the mold and finally swapped the bars ago.
Back in business
Here we go again:
Just moved into the house, doing a full renovation but now I'm going to start commuting on bike.
Just cleaned the mold and finally swapped the bars ago.
Back in business
#1020
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new battery for the trusted old sigma 1009 ... goes back on today and we'll update the business.
thankfully even though the battery died, my total kilometers and time were saved:
GESAMT KM: 3.679
GESAMTZEIT: 156.22
8 CR2032 batteries were £1, so 12.5p each ... i'll add that in and recalculate.
thankfully even though the battery died, my total kilometers and time were saved:
GESAMT KM: 3.679
GESAMTZEIT: 156.22
8 CR2032 batteries were £1, so 12.5p each ... i'll add that in and recalculate.
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episode 193.1
I can walk into work ... about 20 mins ... also there is a city bus that I can use freely with my job, so I won't be saving as much money as before ... but it's good to keep the system running ... however, I was walking in the same shoes about 200km/month and most shoes were making it only 1000km before they need to be disposed off / resoled ... so there's that ...
Items that have been added to restore Marley back to functionality ...
Bars as I'm riding in the city and don't want drops now ... £15
New grips ... £4.99
1 CR2032 battery ... £0.125
Total to add: £20.12
stats:
3679km/2286mi
£567.12/$714.63 total
£0.154/km
€0.19/km
$0.312/mi
The total money saved below will be stopped as of 21 JUN 17.
maintenance (after recovering the cost of the bike): £29/$44.54 (three bicycle tubes and one 23-622 Schwalbe Marathon)
money saved on bus fare (after recovering cost of bike): £389.10/$598.60
net money saved on the bike: £360.10/$553.48
I can walk into work ... about 20 mins ... also there is a city bus that I can use freely with my job, so I won't be saving as much money as before ... but it's good to keep the system running ... however, I was walking in the same shoes about 200km/month and most shoes were making it only 1000km before they need to be disposed off / resoled ... so there's that ...
Items that have been added to restore Marley back to functionality ...
Bars as I'm riding in the city and don't want drops now ... £15
New grips ... £4.99
1 CR2032 battery ... £0.125
Total to add: £20.12
stats:
3679km/2286mi
£567.12/$714.63 total
£0.154/km
€0.19/km
$0.312/mi
The total money saved below will be stopped as of 21 JUN 17.
maintenance (after recovering the cost of the bike): £29/$44.54 (three bicycle tubes and one 23-622 Schwalbe Marathon)
money saved on bus fare (after recovering cost of bike): £389.10/$598.60
net money saved on the bike: £360.10/$553.48
#1022
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full update with history:
PHASE I (Northeast England)
Costs/location of purchase (standard MSRP in UK converted to USD/EUR on day of purchase)
Bike (SS Mangobike from mangobikes.com): 299 GBP / 466 USD
Front/Rear Knog lights, Kryptonite U-lock (amazon.co.uk): 92 GBP / 148 USD
Sigma 1009 cycloputer (amazon.co.uk): 26 GBP / 41 USD
Crud Roadracer MkII (amazon.co.uk): 23 GBP / 37 USD
Total initial rolling cost: 440 GBP / 691 USD
Failure modes and outcomes (i.e. running costs):
02 APR 2014 (1406 km / 873 mi / 28 GBP / 46 USD)
Rear tire worn through canvas - replacement needed
1 Schwalbe Lugano
1 Tube
1 10min service
08 MAY 2014 (1559 km / 968 mi / 13 GBP / 22 USD)
banged rear rim on kerb cutting a corner short
1 new tube
1 bend rear brake track with adjustable spanner
12 MAY 2014 (1597km / 992 mi / 28 GBP / 47 USD)
Split Schwalbe Lugano in half with only 191km on it
1 Gatorskin tire (cost of Lugano refunded)
3 new tubes (one used)
1 10min service
04 JUN 2014 (1789 km / 1112 mi / 30 GBP / 50 USD)
Front tire worn through canvas
1 new gatorskin tire
1 tube used (second of three)
06 JUL 2014 (2119 km / 1315 mi / 4 GBP / 6.8 USD)
Flat rear tire and front bake pad replacement
1 pinch flat after leaving bike in locker and riding without inflation (last tube used)
1 set of new front brake pads
15 JUL 2014 (2177 km / 1352 mi / 1 GBP)
Tape for bars
10 DEC 2014 (3132 km / 1946 mi)
Slightly ruptured Gatorskin on road surface and lost a tube
26 MAR 2015 (3511 km / 2181 mi)
Fully ruptured Gatorskin
Replaced with a Schwalbe Marathon and 3 extra tubes
Last commute: 30 APR 2015 (3679 km / 2286 mi)
PHASE II (Southern Coast of England)
Preparation for the new series of commutes
18 JUN 2017
Rear brake rusted ... cut cable ... pulled cable and lever off ... kept caliper on to hold fender
Swapped bars and tape as above
£0.13 for a new cycloputer battery
Honestly, just pumped up the tires but the one year of not moving isn't so good for the bike ... tons of mould and rust.
However we're back in business.
Total stats:
stats:
3679km/2286mi
£567.12/$714.63 total
£0.154/km
€0.19/km
$0.312/mi
PHASE I (Northeast England)
Costs/location of purchase (standard MSRP in UK converted to USD/EUR on day of purchase)
Bike (SS Mangobike from mangobikes.com): 299 GBP / 466 USD
Front/Rear Knog lights, Kryptonite U-lock (amazon.co.uk): 92 GBP / 148 USD
Sigma 1009 cycloputer (amazon.co.uk): 26 GBP / 41 USD
Crud Roadracer MkII (amazon.co.uk): 23 GBP / 37 USD
Total initial rolling cost: 440 GBP / 691 USD
Failure modes and outcomes (i.e. running costs):
02 APR 2014 (1406 km / 873 mi / 28 GBP / 46 USD)
Rear tire worn through canvas - replacement needed
1 Schwalbe Lugano
1 Tube
1 10min service
08 MAY 2014 (1559 km / 968 mi / 13 GBP / 22 USD)
banged rear rim on kerb cutting a corner short
1 new tube
1 bend rear brake track with adjustable spanner
12 MAY 2014 (1597km / 992 mi / 28 GBP / 47 USD)
Split Schwalbe Lugano in half with only 191km on it
1 Gatorskin tire (cost of Lugano refunded)
3 new tubes (one used)
1 10min service
04 JUN 2014 (1789 km / 1112 mi / 30 GBP / 50 USD)
Front tire worn through canvas
1 new gatorskin tire
1 tube used (second of three)
06 JUL 2014 (2119 km / 1315 mi / 4 GBP / 6.8 USD)
Flat rear tire and front bake pad replacement
1 pinch flat after leaving bike in locker and riding without inflation (last tube used)
1 set of new front brake pads
15 JUL 2014 (2177 km / 1352 mi / 1 GBP)
Tape for bars
10 DEC 2014 (3132 km / 1946 mi)
Slightly ruptured Gatorskin on road surface and lost a tube
26 MAR 2015 (3511 km / 2181 mi)
Fully ruptured Gatorskin
Replaced with a Schwalbe Marathon and 3 extra tubes
Last commute: 30 APR 2015 (3679 km / 2286 mi)
PHASE II (Southern Coast of England)
Preparation for the new series of commutes
18 JUN 2017
Rear brake rusted ... cut cable ... pulled cable and lever off ... kept caliper on to hold fender
Swapped bars and tape as above
£0.13 for a new cycloputer battery
Honestly, just pumped up the tires but the one year of not moving isn't so good for the bike ... tons of mould and rust.
However we're back in business.
Total stats:
stats:
3679km/2286mi
£567.12/$714.63 total
£0.154/km
€0.19/km
$0.312/mi
#1023
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Also, just started renovating an Edwardian ... been teach myself wiring, plumbing and some other UK-based stuff that I never saw in the US/DK/SE/DE...
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