I tried both. That is why I went back to trying the desktop software.

I can't say this explains everyone's problem, but my issue is that when I plug in the Garmin Edge 840, with or without software, it does not appear as a mounted disk image. That is due to the Apple security settings mentioned above, NOT Garmin. (It worked on the same hardware, older OS, previously.) The problem is when you relax the security settings, it sometimes mounts, sometimes doesn't, and if it does mount, something is buggy. (This is via USB-C btw. )

"You don't need to do it your way" really is not an acceptable answer, although I am deeply grateful it works for you.

That’s an option. Being able to copy the screenshots doesn’t preclude this option.

But the quality is not good. Plus, you might have to crop the image.

Plugging the device in isn’t as difficult as you imply either. Especially, if you have a fair amount of screen shots.

Whether it’s worth the extra minor effort of plugging it in might depend on what you are doing with the screenshots.

Agreed on all counts...Just thought it was worth mentioning.

I've never plugged my Garmin into a computer. Never had a reason. But I can understand why others might have reason to do so.

Phone pic of Garmin screen whilst riding? You are a better man than I. To take a screen shot on the device whilst riding you just need to tap the power button.

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These are such niche reasons it does not apply to a vast majority of users. I’ve never heard of anyone using the screenshot feature or understand why they would. Since the 1040 series and the 1050. Come with lifetime free upgradable world maps again it’s an extreme niche use case to upload non-Garmin maps. Lastly, this is mainly an issue created by Mac operating systems not Garmin screwing their customers. If flexibility is your goal chances are slim you are using Mac based system anyways.

Regarding the lack of experience comment, I’ve been using Garmin edge bike computers for over 15 years and remember the constant connectivity issues using USB cables.

Can’t help your lack of imagination, as far as usb cable woes just keep the genuine Garmin one handy and you wouldn’t hav problems.

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You don’t need a “genuine” Garmin cable. (*)

You just need a USB data cable. (Some USB cables are power only.)

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* There was, apparently, an issue with this years ago but that was partly due to people using charging-only cables.

The idea was perpetuated by Garmin insisting people use the Garmin-labeled cable. Not because it was necessary but because Garmin could be assured people were using a cable that would work.

Your experience is clearly limited. What you said establishes that.

The screenshot facility is useful in creating user guides. While there might not be that many people doing that (I’m one of them; So, apparently, is @Shadco.), it’s useful to many others to make their job easier.

Again, you are displaying your lack of experience. One advantage of Garmin that people are free to use custom maps. The “lifetime free upgradable maps” very likely came from these custom maps: Garmin figured out that selling people maps (for automobiles, no less) wasn’t going to work. The free maps Garmin now provides uses Openstreetmap data, some of which was added by people using custom maps (I am one of them).

There are quite a few websites providing custom maps. I provided a custom map to the participants of a club trip to Europe. Some people unnecessarily purchase basically the same maps from Garmin (which don’t include updates). Not enough people use or know about custom maps.

Custom maps aren’t used as much now. But they are still useful since they can be more current. Especially, for people who update OSM (I’m one of them). And it’s still useful for people who have units with limited memory (one of whom asked about it in this here subforum fairly recently). But, with your lack of experience​​​​​, that’s something you’d know nothing about.

(It’s even possible that Garmin is using the software developed to create these custom maps.)

No, the issue appears mostly to be Garmin’s move to MTP, which is weird on Windows too.

This is ancient history and was solved years ago. The screenshot issue isn’t.

The sad thing is that you are minimizing features that other people find useful based on your limited experience or that you can’t “understand why they would” use a feature.

The one comment you selectively chose to ignore is the fact all of your examples are extreme niche use cases. And yes, for you niche users, perhaps either switching to a non-Mac based computer or moving on to another product such as Wahoo. Its a stretch to say Garmin screws Apple users when the product has never been easier to use, reliable and more seamless in its operation for standard users. You have no clue regarding my experience with Garmin products, and I question your current knowledge as you seem stuck in the past.

They aren’t “extreme”. There are people here who use them (there likely would be none if they were extreme).

Not sure why being “niche” is a problem for you anyway. Supporting “niche” uses is a benefit. You benefited from these “niche” uses even if you don’t realize it.

And that you can’t “understand why they would use” a feature is an indication of your ignorance. If your “15 years of experience” wasn’t limited, you’d know why people might use them. This has nothing to do with anything being “niche”.

??? Wahoo is less flexible than Garmin.

It’s not my “stretch”. I disagree with the “screws” part and the change impacts Windows too.

(I provided a link to what should be a reasonable work-around for Apple users. There might be a work-around for Windows users but it’s more involved.)

Based on what you write, it’s clearly limited. Again, it’s you who can’t “understand why they” would use a feature (talk about having “no clue”).

You are arguing from ignorance. The stuff you think (based on your limited experience) is “in the past” is still being used.