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Old 09-24-15 | 05:09 PM
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i'm a little surprised these two bikes generated no interest from this forum. maybe all the enthusiasm for titanium reached a climax with the helix?
These struck me as very well designed indeed. I suspect they would be higher than the Helix price by a very big lump. When I looked, I didn't see any pricing info.
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Old 09-24-15 | 05:46 PM
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These struck me as very well designed indeed. I suspect they would be higher than the Helix price by a very big lump. When I looked, I didn't see any pricing info.
Not only is there no price.. they are not even available .. until some time next year.. my enthusiasm will build when there is something I can actually buy and ride..
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Old 09-24-15 | 08:24 PM
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i'm a little surprised these two bikes generated no interest from this forum. maybe all the enthusiasm for titanium reached a climax with the helix?
titanium always interests me.
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Old 09-25-15 | 04:40 AM
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I expressed interest. Looks like the missing link in many ways at addressing some of the limitations of available 16 inch folders. A fast compact folding bike that rides with little compromise is always my goal. No one produces it yet imo. Upgrades and tinkering gets close.
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Old 09-25-15 | 05:45 AM
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Would interest me more with some suspension, i wish someone would bring out a titanium F framed Moulton, i love the old school look and ride of mine but a modern version without the modern Moulton price tag would be great!
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Old 09-25-15 | 07:01 AM
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Would interest me more with some suspension, i wish someone would bring out a titanium F framed Moulton, i love the old school look and ride of mine but a modern version without the modern Moulton price tag would be great!
bridgestone moulton r2s would fit the bill
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Old 09-25-15 | 10:12 AM
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Looks lovely but its in aluminium aint it? i dont want another alloy framed small bike but if this was titanium i may sell a kidney!
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Old 09-25-15 | 10:25 AM
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Looks lovely but its in aluminium aint it? i dont want another alloy framed small bike but if this was titanium i may sell a kidney!
Perhaps another Jur moment with his Ti guys .. I'd order one up in a heartbeat ....
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Old 09-26-15 | 11:52 AM
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Perhaps another Jur moment with his Ti guys .. I'd order one up in a heartbeat ....
a titanium version of the moulton 60, perhaps?

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Old 09-26-15 | 12:26 PM
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Wrong shade , its chrome Plated .
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Old 09-26-15 | 01:07 PM
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Wrong shade , its chrome Plated .
no, it isn't. it's stainless steel.
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Old 09-26-15 | 01:11 PM
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Is it Yours? got the receipt? take some Macro closeup?

the stainless shows the brazing material putting it together ,Cr plating covers it, I see No silver-brazing fillets.

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Old 09-26-15 | 02:54 PM
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a titanium version of the moulton 60, perhaps?

Stop smallwheeler!!! Please step away from the computer!! ..

That's almost exactly what I want!! Gotta' be the separable version though .. a Ti frame/joint should hold up a lot better than the aluminum version did .. of course a Ti Bridgestone/F-frame should be easier/cheaper to produce and I love that look also .. just have to control the rear end bobbing a bit ... oh what am I talking about.. never going to happen ..
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Old 09-26-15 | 02:56 PM
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If you like I'll investigate the feasibility. Front suspension will be a challenge.
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Old 09-26-15 | 05:17 PM
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If you like I'll investigate the feasibility. Front suspension will be a challenge.
i prefer the bridgestone moulton frame. i am in if this is produced. :-)

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Old 09-26-15 | 05:34 PM
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i prefer the bridgestone moulton frame. i am in if this is produced. :-)
I think the B/M would be the way to go... much easier to make parts.. simpler design, less to go awry ... especially the front suspension.. would want 406/451 accommodation... and track ends/horizontal drops for me... quill stem is good .. what a bike that would be ..

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Old 09-26-15 | 05:36 PM
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Love the M60 frame, similar to the mk3 Moulton, very bling but at almost 4k in English money its just silly, get one under half that then maybe it will be a winner, until then i will continue to finish off my old speed!
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Old 09-26-15 | 05:37 PM
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Problem with the Bridgestone is they have had quite a few snap at certain welds, that puts me off straight away for something so pricey.
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Old 09-26-15 | 09:12 PM
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I think the B/M would be the way to go... much easier to make parts.. simpler design, less to go awry ... especially the front suspension.. would want 406/451 accommodation... and track ends/horizontal drops for me... quill stem is good .. what a bike that would be ..
actually, the reason i thought of the m60 was because it seems as though it would be easier the fabricate a facsimile considering that the pivoting rear triangle is now becoming almost industry standard. whereas the Bridgestone rear assembly is unique and will no doubt require some additional engineering to build.

in fact, if we're talking about having a titanium moulton custom built, instead of separable why not just redesign it as a proper folding bicycle...



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Old 09-27-15 | 01:37 AM
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actually, the reason i thought of the m60 was because it seems as though it would be easier the fabricate a facsimile considering that the pivoting rear triangle is now becoming almost industry standard. whereas the Bridgestone rear assembly is unique and will no doubt require some additional engineering to build.

in fact, if we're talking about having a titanium moulton custom built, instead of separable why not just redesign it as a proper folding bicycle...



it could work if a proper hinge and locking system can be utilised. i prefer that the handlepost does not fold just to make it more simple.
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Old 09-27-15 | 02:23 AM
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I somehow lost a reply here many hours ago... Basically same as smallwheeler, the rear triangle will be more straight forward. I don't have the necessary engineering skills to design it strong enough for a B/M copy.

That folder is awesome! Looks like they found some Brompton hinges to use or something...

Also, with such a rear triangle it could swing under and become a bit smaller.
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Old 09-27-15 | 03:40 AM
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I somehow lost a reply here many hours ago... Basically same as smallwheeler, the rear triangle will be more straight forward. I don't have the necessary engineering skills to design it strong enough for a B/M copy.

That folder is awesome! Looks like they found some Brompton hinges to use or something...

Also, with such a rear triangle it could swing under and become a bit smaller.
the most simple frame of moulton, in my opinion, is the track bike. no suspension. simple rear triangle.

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Old 09-27-15 | 03:53 PM
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the most simple frame of moulton, in my opinion, is the track bike. no suspension. simple rear triangle.

some possibilities?

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Old 09-27-15 | 04:21 PM
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some possibilities?

yes, this is possible. very similar to the anemos zippy fold (brompton-like rear, tyrell front).

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