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Old 03-02-09 | 03:11 PM
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Get your stuff oil-wise from a moto shop. Way cheaper, and you'll have plenty for many, many oil changes down the road.

When swapping the spring, you don't need to remove the lowers at all. Have the fork sitting flat (so no oil leaks out top or bottom) pull old spring out, pop new in, do up the lower bolt and topcap. Good to go with minimal oil loss. As you've noted, the coil side only uses a tiny amount.
Funny U say that Scrub...I was just sitting here contemplating the meaning of life and I got to wondering why I would lose any oil at all in the spring side b/c you lay it flat and squirt it in there in the end anyways. Also...I got to thinking about my last PUSH Fox rebuild and I remember them saying that they use Torco fork oil...which is readily available at a Moto-shop.

I also thought about using the 7.5wt in the damper...with a stiffer spring...it may just require a little heavier fluid to compensate.

I honestly won't know this for sure until I have a chance to test the firm spring with the extreme open and closed damper settings.

Needless to say though...I'm pretty excited to get in installed.
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. . . Bel-Ray fork oil, . . .
Originally Posted by scrublover
Get your stuff oil-wise from a moto shop. . .
There's an echo in here.
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Old 03-02-09 | 05:33 PM
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My Lands, I hope he used heavy packaging
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Old 03-02-09 | 07:36 PM
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There's an echo in here.
Yeah, I go to motocross shop for my fork oil, way cheaper!

echo, echo, echo, echo...
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Old 03-02-09 | 07:38 PM
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My Lands, I hope he used heavy packaging
I knew there had to be a catch to it. The other guy filled it with pork fat, not fork oil!
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Old 03-02-09 | 08:05 PM
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For trade: My Bianchi frame set sz. 54.5
for a similar 56-57 frame and fork.
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Old 03-02-09 | 08:55 PM
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Gee thanks Ed. I actually bought that thinking it was the same size as my first one which I never should've sold. Turns out its a size smaller and I just can't get comfortable. I finally got some tubing to practice on, hopefully I will have my own frame some time this year.

Edit: so what are you doing with the 55
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Old 03-02-09 | 08:58 PM
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Sellin...I dunno though, man.

The TST gets here tomorrow, so I can get it all installed and everything...but there was this one time...at band camp...when the wind blew my bike over like 1 more inch...against the side of the porch. It left a really tiny (like a few mm long) scratch 3/4 up on the right stanchion. You can't hardly feel it, it's pretty hard to spot, but I know it's there and that's what matters. It will never cause the seals any problem...it basically just rubbed through the black ano or paint or whatever they did to the tube to make it black.

I would be doing this via PM, but I feel that the public nature of this post kinda holds me accountable for making known the flaw in the fork for some reason. I would still show pic's of it and describe it if I listed it on ebay though. I'm just honest like that. I can't freakin' help it

Either way, yah...it's getting sold. I was planning on ebaying it as a an "ex-R", now TST with the story included.

If I were you though...I would seriously consider the nature your future with the fork you have. I thought when I bought mine..."how could anyone scroo-up an R cartridge", but it seems that all of the negative aspects of the reviews decided to have a party on my bike all at once. The 2008 TST has a bladder in the bottom of the cartridge (mind you this story is according to the dude at Marz as well as the Suspension Experts, NC) and the bladder would explode and the fluid would leak down into the chamber causing the travel to be limited to ~3" or so.

According to the dude at Marzocchi, he was going to replace my R with a TST that is not a 2008 TST b/c of those issues. He was sending me the "updated version" that supposedly addresses those issues. He was also going to "go through it personally" b/c of all the issues I've been having and make sure it's right b/c they "like to do that for their clientele that have had multiple issues."

Now...this is either a dude who is a straight-shooter and wants to make sure I'm hooked up...or it's a good salesman who wants to tell me what I want to hear. I lean toward the prior b/c he wasn't making any money off of me by selling me a TST for $65. Maybe breaking even, but that would leave him no motive to give me "lip-service".

I honestly fully planned on riding the 55 again when I got the cartridge installed...but I kept watching that Domain outta the corner of my eye and I just decided to bite on it. The main reason besides the great track record, is the adjustable compression and travel adjust. It won't make the night and day difference that will allow me to climb like my XC buddies...but it will be better for that as well as trips to the sk8park.

So...there's my story.

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So...if I do it myself, the absolute cheapest I can get by is probably gonna be $65 or so. That's if I gimp out and don't buy any new 15wt to change out the damper side. (which I think is probably not a good idea)



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Do it yourself? are you crazy? this is a mountain bike part, everyone knows that you must take your bike and all it's components to the lbs or there will certainly be a disaster. Don't you know that some of those fork thingy's have springs and stuff that could spring out and get stuck in your eye or something. now if it were me I may try working on a front fork but I would never attempt the rear fork because everyone knows that they have springs in them that could spring out at warp speed and injure the unsuspecting bicycle owner. so i think you may just want to leave this one for the pro's like me. if you would like some help with this stupendously dificult job then i would suggest that you send it to me, i mean my bike shop.....
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Do it yourself? are you crazy? this is a mountain bike part, everyone knows that you must take your bike and all it's components to the lbs or there will certainly be a disaster. Don't you know that some of those fork thingy's have springs and stuff that could spring out and get stuck in your eye or something. now if it were me I may try working on a front fork but I would never attempt the rear fork because everyone knows that they have springs in them that could spring out at warp speed and injure the unsuspecting bicycle owner. so i think you may just want to leave this one for the pro's like me. if you would like some help with this stupendously dificult job then i would suggest that you send it to me, i mean my bike shop.....
You kidding, changing it out is so easy even santiago could do it without getting dirty and still sipping on his espresso.
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You kidding, changing it out is so easy even santiago could do it without getting dirty and still sipping on his espresso.
I know santiago could, everybody knows santiago could, santiago's the best around, of course he could do it. um who's santiago?
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Old 03-03-09 | 09:28 AM
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I know santiago could, everybody knows santiago could, santiago's the best around, of course he could do it. um who's santiago?
Oh no you didn't!
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Old 03-03-09 | 12:55 PM
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UPS stopped by...(hang on a minute)



So they sent me another R cartridge AND a TST2 cartridge..."bread anyone?"



The Suntour R:


TST2 knob is PIMP:



Notice the difference between the two...the R is a pressed together piece of junk that resembles a hatchback piston, the TST is much larger in diameter with alot more fluid in it. It's also a serviceable cartridge:





There's a knob at the bottom of the TST2 that controls rebound. They forgot to send me the knob, so that's OTW. Other than that...I just have to figure out whether to sell the fork as a TST2 or sell it as an R and sell the TST cartridge seperately.


Ripped this pic off:

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Must be the Tomain 318?
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You should make a Lyrmain. Dat would be pimp'n.
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Old 03-03-09 | 02:31 PM
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With the U-Turn slammed...Lowmein?

That was the worst joke in the history of man.
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This thread was supposed to stay elevated, refined, and interesting...what the heck happened?
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This thread was supposed to stay elevated, refined, and interesting...what the heck happened?
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Probably Junkyards fault. He's probably gonna be disruptive like this until they give him the GJ/SB Eagle
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In the up-side...the new cart looks just as easy to install as the Domain.
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I'm extremely disappointed. I thought that this was going to be chelboed's coming out thread where he finally admitted his love of feather boa's, latex, and show tunes!
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I like boa's with scales, I wear latex gloves at work, but as far as the show tunes go...I could probably do the soundtrack to Kranked 6.
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I like boa's with scales, I wear latex gloves at work, but as far as the show tunes go...I could probably do the soundtrack to Kranked 6.
Huh, I always had you figured for a Clint Eastwood/ Lee Marvin "Paint your wagon" sort of guy.
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