Addiction III
#2102
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Went on a run with my new Edge 500 to test it out. I'll take it on a ride tomorrow I guess.
Went on a run with my new Edge 500 to test it out. I'll take it on a ride tomorrow I guess.
#2103
No. I agree that how in shape you are makes a lot of difference, but the really fast guys know how to suffer. Everyone has their breaking point when they are trying hard and feel like they have to give up, the fastest guys just push past that.
#2105
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Hard to say. When I am pulling or climbing I am certainly working hard and suffering at least a little.
I don't have a power meter, but based on my computrainer session, I would say that 200W is a teeny bit of suffering, 250W is mild suffering, 300W is moderate suffering and 350 is unsustainable beyond a minute or two.
I don't have a power meter, but based on my computrainer session, I would say that 200W is a teeny bit of suffering, 250W is mild suffering, 300W is moderate suffering and 350 is unsustainable beyond a minute or two.
#2106
I still don't think anyone just pushes past their physical abilities. If you take two riders at FTPs of 260 and 270....if both are riding at 280 watts, they might both look like they are suffering the same, but clearly the second rider is suffering just a bit less. You just can't push past what your body is capable of, though I can see someone at a pace they think is going to make them blow up and not realizing they could really be going 5% faster. But thats kind of a small difference compared to the physical difference, and largely one of training and figuring out what that limit is.
#2107
I still don't think anyone just pushes past their physical abilities. If you take two riders at FTPs of 260 and 270....if both are riding at 280 watts, they might both look like they are suffering the same, but clearly the second rider is suffering just a bit less. You just can't push past what your body is capable of, though I can see someone at a pace they think is going to make them blow up and not realizing they could really be going 5% faster. But thats kind of a small difference compared to the physical difference, and largely one of training and figuring out what that limit is.
#2108
Those are much more stupid than road cycling.
#2109
Well, when you phrase it that way, that is exactly what I mean. Pushing yourself past what you think you can do. I think that's different from "suffering" more than the guy next to you though. It's not only a factor of having the physical ability, but also knowing the full extent of that physical ability.
#2110
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#2113
I think the ability to reach the limit is very much dependent on mood, motivation and a bunch of other crap that lives in my head.
Buying more schwag is an excellent placebo / motivator.
Buying more schwag is an excellent placebo / motivator.
#2114
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It's the damn congestion. Sudafed, steam, nasal flush...none of it has helped in the slightest.
#2118
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I really cannot even get up. I've been on the couch for about 28 hours at this point, with the occasional bathroom break and drink refills in there somewhere. It takes all my energy though.
#2119
I had an interesting discussion with one of my club-mates on today's ride.
I was commenting on how I wish I was faster and mentioned some of the stronger guys in our club.
He said that the main difference between me and them is not strength/fitness but just the ability to suffer and keep going.
I am not so sure about that, I wonder if the ability to "suffer" matters as much as innate ability.
Any thoughts?
I was commenting on how I wish I was faster and mentioned some of the stronger guys in our club.
He said that the main difference between me and them is not strength/fitness but just the ability to suffer and keep going.
I am not so sure about that, I wonder if the ability to "suffer" matters as much as innate ability.
Any thoughts?
I don't think so.
#2120
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#2121
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#2123
It's been an interesting day. I never was able to get on the bike....
We had to perform emergency repairs on our barn as our T1-11 siding on one side of the barn quickly and dramatically warped away from the support beams, allowing windows to pop out and rain to get in.
Then we came back to the garage to find that our old garage door motor had slowly burned up with the weight of the new door (a nice windproof Wayne-Dalton). This has not been our day.
We had to perform emergency repairs on our barn as our T1-11 siding on one side of the barn quickly and dramatically warped away from the support beams, allowing windows to pop out and rain to get in.
Then we came back to the garage to find that our old garage door motor had slowly burned up with the weight of the new door (a nice windproof Wayne-Dalton). This has not been our day.
#2124
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#2125
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It's been an interesting day. I never was able to get on the bike....
We had to perform emergency repairs on our barn as our T1-11 siding on one side of the barn quickly and dramatically warped away from the support beams, allowing windows to pop out and rain to get in.
Then we came back to the garage to find that our old garage door motor had slowly burned up with the weight of the new door (a nice windproof Wayne-Dalton). This has not been our day.

We had to perform emergency repairs on our barn as our T1-11 siding on one side of the barn quickly and dramatically warped away from the support beams, allowing windows to pop out and rain to get in.
Then we came back to the garage to find that our old garage door motor had slowly burned up with the weight of the new door (a nice windproof Wayne-Dalton). This has not been our day.






