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jeremywhitehorn 04-11-06 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by sr20det
anyways, do you guys have anything planned for the long weekend yet?

maybe riding out to whitby (aka whiteby) to visit the parents for lunch on friday if the weather holds.

somnambulant 04-11-06 08:33 PM

I'm gonna be in Ottawa Thurs - Sat. If anyone wants to go for a ride on Sunday I'll likely be down for that... especially since I'm missing a training ride on Saturday.

eyefloater: I assume you guys are open regular hours on Sunday?

eyefloater 04-11-06 08:34 PM

Oui, I believe so.

PS. php message en route ...

operator 04-11-06 08:36 PM


maybe riding out to whitby (aka whiteby)
Haha... Oh.

jeremywhitehorn 04-11-06 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by somnambulant
my chain seems to have stretched all of a sudden.. what's up with that? :) Suddenly in the past week it doesn't seem to line up with the chainring teeth and it's gotten super noisy. I assume that == chain stretch.

Guess I'll pick up a new one!

how long have you had your current chain? do you mean "line up" from side to side or up and down (great language)? if it's not lined up horizontally then that's a chainline issue. have you changed the chain since installing chainrings/cogs? you can always measure the chain to see if it's worn. according to sheldon brown:

"The standard way to measure chain wear is with a ruler or steel tape measure. This can be done without removing the chain from the bicycle. The normal technique is to measure a one-foot length, placing an inch mark of the ruler exactly in the middle of one rivet, then looking at the corresponding rivet 12 complete links away. On a new, unworn chain, this rivet will also line up exactly with an inch mark. With a worn chain, the rivet will be past the inch mark."

jeremywhitehorn 04-11-06 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by somnambulant
I'm gonna be in Ottawa Thurs - Sat. If anyone wants to go for a ride on Sunday I'll likely be down for that... especially since I'm missing a training ride on Saturday.

eyefloater: I assume you guys are open regular hours on Sunday?

i'm not sure yet but i may be riding from mississauga (sp) to glen williams (to the bakery in glen williams) on sunday with some fellow fixie riders. about 100km round trip if you're interested.

somnambulant 04-11-06 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
how long have you had your current chain? do you mean "line up" from side to side or up and down (great language)? if it's not lined up horizontally then that's a chainline issue. have you changed the chain since installing chainrings/cogs? you can always measure the chain to see if it's worn. according to sheldon brown:

"The standard way to measure chain wear is with a ruler or steel tape measure. This can be done without removing the chain from the bicycle. The normal technique is to measure a one-foot length, placing an inch mark of the ruler exactly in the middle of one rivet, then looking at the corresponding rivet 12 complete links away. On a new, unworn chain, this rivet will also line up exactly with an inch mark. With a worn chain, the rivet will be past the inch mark."

no, not chainline.. that looks pretty good. It's more like the chain isn't sitting on the ring tight anymore. On the top of the chainring it sits pretty snug, but as the chain wraps around towards the bottom it winds up with a little gap since I think the space between the links is larger than the space between the teeth. Make sense? And yeah, I should just measure it. :)

somnambulant 04-11-06 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
i'm not sure yet but i may be riding from mississauga (sp) to glen williams (to the bakery in glen williams) on sunday with some fellow fixie riders. about 100km round trip if you're interested.

I'm still working up to the (likely psychological) 100km barrier. You make it sound casual enough to make me think "I don't want to be Mr LagBehind". :)

jeremywhitehorn 04-11-06 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by somnambulant
no, not chainline.. that looks pretty good. It's more like the chain isn't sitting on the ring tight anymore. On the top of the chainring it sits pretty snug, but as the chain wraps around towards the bottom it winds up with a little gap since I think the space between the links is larger than the space between the teeth. Make sense? And yeah, I should just measure it. :)

perfect sense and yeah that sounds like a stretched chain; best to change it soon else you can wear out the chainring teeth into a "wave" shape.

jeremywhitehorn 04-11-06 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by somnambulant
I'm still working up to the (likely psychological) 100km barrier. You make it sound casual enough to make me think "I don't want to be Mr LagBehind". :)

hardly. if i make it sound casual it's because the pace and the company is casual. if it's any consolation, this was the first longish ride i did out in the country on a fixed gear and i didn't think it was possible at the time but that turned out to be, as you say, entirely phsychological and it ended up being a great ride. i also wasn't using a bike computer at the time so that helped my not think of the distance.

operator 04-11-06 08:56 PM

I was going to ride to my friends place in St. Catharines on friday and then back on sat but not sure if i'll ever finish this ****ing c programming assignment in time.

jeremywhitehorn 04-11-06 08:58 PM

i managed to get 2 flats while running errands at lunch today. 2! luckily one of those errands was to urbane so i could get a new tube. curse you glass ridden streets!

somnambulant 04-11-06 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
hardly. if i make it sound casual it's because the pace and the company is casual. if it's any consolation, this was the first longish ride i did out in the country on a fixed gear and i didn't think it was possible at the time but that turned out to be, as you say, entirely phsychological and it ended up being a great ride. i also wasn't using a bike computer at the time so that helped my not think of the distance.

Alright, well I'll see how I feel on Sunday after several days of partying with friends in Ottawa. :D

Edit PSA: apparently "debauchery" which I initially used in place of "partying" has a sexual connotation, which I suspected but wasn't sure about until after I hit submit and THEN looked it up on dictionary.com. :P

jeremywhitehorn 04-11-06 09:12 PM

alright, last post then i'm going to bed (for the shop rats among us):anyone know if push the envelope is still making their little hip pouches with the lock holster? stoopid me i somehow lost/got rid of mine in last year's spring cleaning and now i can't find them for sale anywhere.

operator 04-11-06 09:13 PM

Well I was going to quote it but you changed it too fast. My browser has it cached...!
Weird the Push the Envelope site used too list their accessories but it's a "come back later" message now.

jeremywhitehorn 04-11-06 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by operator
Well I was going to quote it but you changed it too fast. My browser has it cached...!
Weird the Push the Envelope site used too list their accessories but it's a "come back later" message now.

yeah i see photos of the bag on the page but i think it has been that way for a while. they used to sell them at urbane and the last few times i've been in they don't have any. i wanted to pick one up at the bike show but the push people didn't make any for the show!

Shiznaz 04-11-06 09:57 PM

I could be up for a long ride on sunday to celebrate the end of classes. Undecided what bike I'll ride... I have no idea how good the cyclops is for long distances. Could be a real pain in the ass... chances are my spicer would be more appropriate. Why is life so difficult?

sr20det 04-11-06 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
alright, last post then i'm going to bed (for the shop rats among us):anyone know if push the envelope is still making their little hip pouches with the lock holster? stoopid me i somehow lost/got rid of mine in last year's spring cleaning and now i can't find them for sale anywhere.

Just ask Reba (push the envelope) nicely to make you another one. I'm sure it could be done.
If you are lucky, you can catch her at Urbane sometimes or just call them up.

operator 04-11-06 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by Shiznaz
I could be up for a long ride on sunday to celebrate the end of classes. Undecided what bike I'll ride... I have no idea how good the cyclops is for long distances. Could be a real pain in the ass... chances are my spicer would be more appropriate. Why is life so difficult?

So did you skip all your classes this week?

Shiznaz 04-12-06 09:31 AM

Nope, been to every single one so far... even my art class yesterday when we met up at the gallery and drank champale for 3 hours while eating leftover carrot cake.. what a waste of time. I've got 3500 words of essay to do for tomorrow and I need to go and supervise the gallery from 2-5pm today. Hooray!

eyefloater 04-12-06 09:33 AM

Reba's at Urbane today - might be a good time to call.

jeremywhitehorn 04-12-06 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by eyefloater
Reba's at Urbane today - might be a good time to call.

alright, i'll give them a ringey-ding.

TRaffic Jammer 04-12-06 10:01 AM

Polly I like the idea of the curved tube as well as long as the drop out can let me mount a screw tire.
Road front end gets my vote. Long skinny feet love touchin' the front wheel.
Good luck to all the students finishing stuff up in the Easter crunch.

somnambulant 04-12-06 10:08 AM

Operator: Just ordered some new "tyres" from probikekit. Got 2 rubino pro's and 2 michelin prorace 2.

cavit8 04-12-06 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by somnambulant
no, not chainline.. that looks pretty good. It's more like the chain isn't sitting on the ring tight anymore. On the top of the chainring it sits pretty snug, but as the chain wraps around towards the bottom it winds up with a little gap since I think the space between the links is larger than the space between the teeth. Make sense? And yeah, I should just measure it. :)

Me being paranoid, but check your chainring bolts. If this happened suddenly (i.e. bam it's there), I'm not sure chain stretch would explain it.


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