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That would be cool krusty. I too have a framebuilding book, in PDF. For mitering, I've seen a guy (cycles Golem) use a sanding belt instead of a lathe or a file :)
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Originally Posted by krusty
(Post 7348626)
I'm definitely game. I expect I will play for a bit with some old frames just to hone my technique again. As for a jig, they aren't that complicated to build. You just need to be sure your work is accurate. My brother in Ottawa has a mill, lathe, etc., and a whole lot of free time (retired at age 47), so I may make a fall project of a jig.
2 former co-workers of my father used to build frames years ago (30ish). One is still alive, and I know him well enough to sit down with him and discuss the issues he must have dealt with back then. I will start working on tubes. I am assuming with oxy/acet, brazed w/ lugs is the way to proceed? What size frame would you be thinking about? Do you have a preference as far as manufacturer or a specific tubeset you would prefer? Is the fact I am getting misty eyed and excited with the thought of hours of hand filing lugwork a bad thing? |
Originally Posted by cavernmech
(Post 7348854)
Awesome. I can get you some decent old frames to mess with if you need em.
I will start working on tubes. I am assuming with oxy/acet, brazed w/ lugs is the way to proceed? What size frame would you be thinking about? Do you have a preference as far as manufacturer or a specific tubeset you would prefer? Is the fact I am getting misty eyed and excited with the thought of hours of hand filing lugwork a bad thing? |
why make boring frames... you should make some franken bikes or how 'bout a cool fork... say... one with a built in rack, say a rack that could hold a lots of weight
or a trike or a 4 wheeled bike or would it be possible to let me in on the learning :D |
Originally Posted by cavernmech
(Post 7348854)
Awesome. I can get you some decent old frames to mess with if you need em.
I will start working on tubes. I am assuming with oxy/acet, brazed w/ lugs is the way to proceed? What size frame would you be thinking about? Do you have a preference as far as manufacturer or a specific tubeset you would prefer? Is the fact I am getting misty eyed and excited with the thought of hours of hand filing lugwork a bad thing? Brazed w/lugs definitely. It makes for a much more beautiful frame if you use things like polished stainless lugs. I am going to scribble up a jig design and try to work out any possible issues or limitations. It may take a bit to come up with a versatile and accurate enough design. As far as size, I would of course want to make one to fit me:D (53ish). I would be interested in an old school tight track frame. I have some specifications for Columbus tube sets from a few years ago. I have to go through them with an eye towards final usage to determine which set might be best for a start. |
Now THIS is exciting!
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fo shiz!
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Me wanty fillet brazed road bike. :)
California was hideous: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3098/...042975a5_o.jpg |
"Once giants lived in the earth, Conan. And in the darkness of chaos, they fooled Crom, and they took from him the enigma of steel. Crom was angered, and the earth shook. Fire and Wind struck down these giants...but in their rage, the gods forgot the secret of steel and left it on the battlefield. And we who found it are just men - not gods, not giants, just men. The secret of steel has always carried with it a mystery. You must learn its riddle, Conan. You must learn its discipline. For no one, no one in the world can you trust - not men, not women, not beasts.... this you can trust."
-Conan's father, from "Conan the Barbarian" :lol: We shall learn the secrets of steel. |
CROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
I've always wanted to try my hand at brazing too.. |
Originally Posted by I_bRAD
(Post 7346286)
That was our first "real" tour. Did part of that route last year over the Thanksgiving weekend. That time I was running a milk crate for cargo and an 11-21 double and tam was on her old Raleigh 3sp. This time we had proper racks, bags and gearing- but also sleeping/cooking gear.
It was tough, but manageable. Slow and steady all the way :D The bikes were pretty heavy- the weights include the bike (I'd say our bikes each weigh between 30-35lbs unloaded. I like to be comfy when camping, so we probably could have packed less, but I'd rather carry the extra load and be comfortable camping. We even brought an axe to split the crappy provincial parks firewood :) My pack usually weighs about 50-60lbs when backpacking, so add some extras like tools and repair stuff and that makes up the difference. Can't wait to do another one! PS- riding around today on an unloaded road bike sure feels fast now! aww those photos make me miss touring so much. my tour to manitoulin last summer was about the same, averaging between 80-100 km a day on a 90-someodd-lb bike. when i got back i also thought my bike was faster than light. only time i ever truly enjoyed my urbanite... :( damn you, cubicle job! |
Originally Posted by vainglorious
(Post 7349633)
I've always wanted to try my hand at brazing too..
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Originally Posted by krusty
(Post 7350421)
Ever done plumbing? 'Sweating' copper tube and fittings is quite similar to brazing with lugs. In both cases you are trying hard to not overheat the joint, yet get adequate flow of filler material into the joint itself without making a mess by adding too much.
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Remember that scene where Arnold knocks out a camel? Ya ... good times.
Anyway, I'm going to Iceland today, so the summer adventures continue. I'll be back in 9-ish days and I'll try to post a photo or two on my Flickr account (see sig.) before then. I've got three days of riding planned along with all the other random crap there is to do in Iceland, so it should be good times! Brad + Tam, got more pics of your trip? It looked to be pretty amazing! Those bike setups were epic. :) |
125 and 90lbs? Whoa.... nice loaded tour! Can't wait for more pics, makes me sad I've not gone on any real long jaunts yet this year. Welcome back! That gravel road looks just like one of the roads in Niagara Region I take on my way to the falls... east of Victoria Ave, IIRC (9th road, grays road, I can't remember) - I'll never forget this time last year being able to see Toronto from all the way across the lake... for a smalltime British lad, that impressed the heck out of me :)
Welcome back Wes, am anxious to check those photos out too :D Have fun in Iceland Mike, I never had chance to go when we had an Icelandic customer (Hallo.is - used to be a main telco there back in the day) - I heard it's a pretty unreal/cool place from my old cow-orkers. I've e-mailed Andrew for the Mean Streets committing myself (not the only thing I should be committed to, some would argue ;)) - I'd suggest anyone else to do the same so you've got your name in at least. Up at Keele/Steeles again today, might not make it for DSR (new start point, check the site) but definitely aim to be there for the Charlie ride tomorrow. Also, homemade frames and reading these threads make me all kinds of excited... I'm no metalworker (only done brazing on karting chassis in high school... damn near 15 years ago now) - that stuff would be ueber cool to tinker with... so pics pics pics once you start :D I heard Tofu was framebuilding in amongst his other 324234 new jobs, I guess he's busy eh? |
Originally Posted by tuz
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That would be cool krusty. I too have a framebuilding book, in PDF.
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Taken from DSR:
Ride For Charlie In the summer of 2007 our friend Charlie set out on an epic journey - The Double Cross. Sadly, fifty plus days in he was struck from behind and killed while riding across Alberta. Thursday, August 28 @ 7pm meet outside JetFuel Coffee - 519 Parliament St - for a ride celebrating the life of Charlie and all cyclists lost much too early. The route will be a nice spin through Cabbagetown and continuing south to the lakeshore where we’ll visit the memorial tree for fallen cyclists. |
Some pictures from Peter (of Misfit Psycles fame):
Me arriving at feed zone for water/donuts/beer. You heard me. http://media.tumblr.com/mr9np2slxd5s...BZldaz_400.jpg Typical Sonoma trail.. this was part of the course. Crazy rocky/dusty/loose uphill (ie. run-up). Pictures don't do these climbs any justice. http://media.tumblr.com/mr9np2slxd5s...z4PRX6_400.jpg Me in the Marin headlands, just before descending to the area I already posted a shot of. http://media.tumblr.com/mr9np2slxd5s...BJcN3N_400.jpg Peter and I, pre-riding the course. Yet another crazy uphill slog. http://media.tumblr.com/mr9np2slxd5s...rPZA7C_400.jpg Also, I can't remember if I posted it or not.. but here's the Motionbased info from the group ride we did on Thursday. mmm.. 55km with 4300' of climbing (and NOT rolling, as you can see by the elevation profile). Singlespeed FTW! :) http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/6573228 |
Originally Posted by krusty
(Post 7353077)
I would love to see a copy of it!:thumb:
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shop dudes / dudettes: anyone have any black b17s in stock? standard or narrow, preferred.
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Originally Posted by somnambulant
(Post 7353286)
Also, I can't remember if I posted it or not.. but here's the Motionbased info from the group ride we did on Thursday. mmm.. 55km with 4300' of climbing (and NOT rolling, as you can see by the elevation profile). Singlespeed FTW! :) http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/6573228 |
Originally Posted by I_bRAD
(Post 7353856)
Serious climbing! So was that some sort of race you went to, or just a get together/group ride party thing?
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Mexican food is so good in California, I had a fish taco problem when I was last out there. I need to get out there again, I miss it.
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Here's the gps data from the actual race.. 39km and 1576m (5170') climbing.
http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/6598410 |
Originally Posted by MattRennick
(Post 7353739)
shop dudes / dudettes: anyone have any black b17s in stock? standard or narrow, preferred.
edit: appears to be gone. nevermind! |
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