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f4rrest

10-07-17 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19914258)

I am looking into buying a pair of Chinese Crabon clinchers to replace my Williams 38s, the front is cracked and they are 5 years old.

A little research suggests Yoeleo is a reputable supplier.

Should I start a thread in the 41?? Or should I wait until after I buy them to see if I made a good choice and/or got a good buy?

Be sure to send via PayPal as a gift, so you don't get any buyer protection.

f4rrest

10-07-17 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19914184)

Phew. I am beat. Today's double metric half was SUPPOSED TO BE an A- ride. The problem is that there was no A ride, so a bunch of A riders crashed (not literally) my A- ride with predictable results. Pace was fast. We also had five flats, which I am blaming on those stupid chestnuts which were all over the roads. One rider broke his RD cable and was stuck in the 12t in back, so I sent him home on the flattest roads I could think of.

Anything happen while I was out riding?

Not even a half metric for me.

I got stuck behind a tour bus descending from the observatory. That sucks.

rjones28

10-07-17 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 19913726)

Standing when going uphill un-weights the rear wheel which is particularly problematic on loose surfaces - in the battle between rear wheel traction and the torque of my massive guads, these conditions tip the field in favor of the guads and the rear wheel will often slip.

More likely, because of your 150mm stem.

rjones28

10-07-17 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 19914172)

Fun Facts:

--I once lived on Mockingbird Lane.

--Mockingbird is the state bird of Tennessee

Oh, really?

http://www.munsters.com/images/eddie-on-bike.jpg

datlas

10-07-17 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f4rrest (Post 19914364)

Be sure to send via PayPal as a gift, so you don't get any buyer protection.

Good point, thanks for the tip!

Bah Humbug

10-07-17 02:07 PM

FWIW, in all seriousness, I just saw some love for Yoeleo over on ST.

datlas

10-07-17 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 19914432)

FWIW, in all seriousness, I just saw some love for Yoeleo over on ST.

Yeah, they look pretty good and although their prices are not super cheap, they have a good reputation and are several hundred less than the comparable wheels from western brands.

I am leaning towards 50mm depth, my current ones are 38 and I don't mind a little more aero. But not sure. Maybe 38F 50R? Sounds like another job for the 41!

datlas

10-07-17 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 19914308)

I'd be interested in looking in to the Workwell options as their frames have been generally well-received.

The workswell site does show some wheels, but interestingly no price info. I sent them an email inquiring. Kinda funny they don't show the prices, but wtf do I know?

Heathpack

10-07-17 03:27 PM

https://i.imgur.com/GyyWxHc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ga98QgQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/pDqFsfY.jpg

Such a beautiful ride this am, 12 miles of single track. Sweet sweet ride on a pair of trails called Grout Bay and Hanna Flats.

:) :) :)

Bah Humbug

10-07-17 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19914514)

Honestly? 50mm isn't even that deep - I looked back at my pics with the 52mm Rails and they're not that deep. There are good aluminum rims at 33mm deep these days that aren't boat anchors, so if you're going to carbon, go full-fat and get the 50s. Otherwise you might as well get good aluminum, even though it's not as schmexy.

And the mullet option doesn't really make sense for 30-something fronts; it makes more sense with a 50+ front and an even-deeper rear if you don't want to (or can't) go all the way to a disc. So 404/808 makes sense. It makes much less to go 303/404. You're sacrificing too much depth (and therefor aero) at the front, where it really matters. If you want a mid-depth front much below 40mm, just match front-rear.

sbxx1985

10-07-17 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19914258)

I am looking into buying a pair of Chinese Crabon clinchers to replace my Williams 38s, the front is cracked and they are 5 years old.

A little research suggests Yoeleo is a reputable supplier.

You actually use your wheels, so I wouldn't bother with Chinese rims. Buy something from here or the UK that will last like the Williams wheels. Excel has some closeouts. Fork over the money, you cheapskate.

sbxx1985

10-07-17 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19914514)

I am leaning towards 50mm depth, my current ones are 38 and I don't mind a little more aero. But not sure. Maybe 38F 50R? Sounds like another job for the 41!

I wouldn't go much deeper than 50mm for the front. Deeper rear is fine. My Cervelo has psimet 50/58s. That's a good option to consider. White Industries T11 hubs and they would outlast the rims.

datlas

10-07-17 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sbxx1985 (Post 19914580)

Cheapskate? Ok, sign me up for some MEILENSTEIN action!

Truth is that Mrs datlas is the MOF and she does not see the value in bike schwag.

datlas

10-07-17 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sbxx1985 (Post 19914580)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbxx1985 (Post 19914598)

I wouldn't go much deeper than 50mm for the front. Deeper rear is fine. My Cervelo has psimet 50/58s. That's a good option to consider. White Industries T11 hubs and they would outlast the rims.

Yeah will likely go 50/50. Might actually ask for a quote from psimet while I am at it.

sbxx1985

10-07-17 03:52 PM

Better to do a deeper rear, if it's an option.

Actually, at your weight, maybe not.

sbxx1985

10-07-17 04:09 PM

I get the allure of the Chinese carbon rims. Some of the higher end stuff, like those Workswell frames, are enticing.

I've had a carbon wheel almost fail twice - once in Sante Fe and once on Flagstaff. I'd rather not do that again. If it's the difference of $300-400, my face is worth it. I would buy a Performance discounted Reynolds wheelset or something from psimet or Fairwheel or November or Boyd.

datlas

10-07-17 04:13 PM

I really wanted November 52's but they are discontinued. Not set on Chinese, will look at all options but hope to keep it roughly 1000 bucks if possible.

datlas

10-07-17 04:21 PM

Mrs datlas and I just finished tag-team power washing the front stairs and entrance to our house. It's concrete and was pretty dark. Now it's light and clean now.

sbxx1985

10-07-17 04:30 PM

Bryzzo.

WhyFi

10-07-17 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19914657)

I really wanted November 52's but they are discontinued. Not set on Chinese, will look at all options but hope to keep it roughly 1000 bucks if possible.

Oh, if $1k is in the ballpark, yeah, you could find some closeouts from Reynolds, Williams or the like. My Assaults were under $1200 from a UK seller. I'd look at Fulcrum Quattro Carbons, too.

LAJ	10-07-17 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 19913326)

I thought I made some sort of breach of etiquette. If people want to ride gravel that is fine by me but I just don't get it, but that is my problem. My racing days are long gone ( I was never good.)

I don't know how some here can still do it so well. Kudos for the dedication.

No real breach of etiquette, per se, but you will find most of the folks in this thread do appreciate the "right" stuff. I find it bothersome when folks call out others for their choice in stuff, especially when that stuff is ridden pretty hard and performs as designed.