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Old 12-05-17, 06:27 PM
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You posted here. Like Persephone and her pomegranate, you're stuck here now.
No Exit?
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So I’m coming close to completing the setup of my new mini-computer. I have always used Corel photo processing products because they were so much cheaper than Adobe and still very highly functional. But when I installed Paint Shop Pro and After Shot Pro (raw processor), the After Shot wouldn’t start up. After poor tech service to fix the problem, I gave up, got credit on the Corel stuff and bought Elements, which I kind of like.

Then I found PS CS6, the last onboard version of PS before the cloud subscription only version took over, on eBay and snagged it for $70. It is a DVD version with internal serial number, so I had to buy a plug-in DVD player ($25) to load it into the computer. So I am about $100 bucks out for the nearly latest version of PS that should last me forever. I am old after all.

I’m waiting for the PS to be delivered. Will let you all know how it works when I get it installed.

The one thing I am not particularly interested in is Lightroom. I have no use for the photo storage organizing functions, and that seems to be the forte of Lightroom.

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No matter where I go, here I am...

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No Exit?
Hotel California.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
At what point do I legitimately have to eat all the ice cream in the freezer?
NOW
All of it NOW, and don't forget the chocolate sauce!
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I wish more places would do that. I sometimes have to go for training sessions in locations where parking is problematic i.e. there is none for several blocks. Parking issues and Phoenicians who are usually ten miles over the posted speed limit and rarely use their turn signals have very much encouraged me to take the bus and light-rail. (Plus I would feel odd driving to an event where I'm rehabbing bikes.) The organization pays for mileage but not for a $4 full-day bus pass and I think that's silly. We already have to pay extra to register a car because it has to go through emissions testing because on days like today you can barely see the mountains so why encourage people to contribute to the problem?
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Power's back on. Which means I have no reason to eat all the ice cream now.

Right?
Still eat all the of it
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Old 12-05-17, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Power's back on. Which means I have no reason to eat all the ice cream now.

Right?
You need a reason? Isn't that it is in your house reason enough?
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Originally Posted by jtaylor996
"Data" is my favorite. It's already plural. The singular is "datum". However, I challenge anyone to find where the word datum is actually appropriate. It seems you're never just talking about one.

The only place I've seen datum actually used was with regard to earth reference parameters used for cartography. For example "this map projection uses the WGS84 datum." But even then it's wonky, because each datum itself is a collection of data.

I've been waiting to pop out that Neat FactTM that "data is plural" forever, and have yet been able to do so.
Haha I guess I'm more Shakespearean in my approach to spelling & grammar. There's "correct" usage & I generally try to stick with it for the sake of not hearing from all the self-appointed grammarians and the spelling police.

But if the idea I'm trying to convey is adequately communicated- well, that's the point, isn't it?

We have a modern idea that our language is a fixed thing that should abide by rules. When in fact it is an evolving, living thing that will be significantly different two or three generations from now.

Poets do this all the time, Shakespeare was the king. If it suited his purposes to say data instead of datum, he would have done it in a heartbeat. And then maybe added dayahvam for good measure. Hindu word, connected to English language poetry through TS Eliot. Imagine! Using a Hindu word for its literal meaning but also for how it sounds, whereas I'm using it because of how it is spelled.

When I was in college and my life revolved around poetry, I wrote a maybe twenty page term paper on the idea that the entire key to understanding Chaucer's 8000 line poem, Troilus and Cressida, was to realize that there were alternate pronunciations in Middle English to the word "Heart" and based on the rhyme scheme Chaucer was using, it should have been pronounced each of those two ways when the word was repeated in consecutive lines, giving you a clue to what was in Cressida's heart and therefore why she did what she did. Was she a ***** because she was a b itch, or were the fates forcing her to be a b itch?

<Ans: it was the fates, IMO>

Anyway. Chaucer was a pretty clever dude. He intended "heart" to be pronounced "heart" the first time and "heart-uh" the second time, and if you were sitting there hearing this poem recited/performed as you might have in 1380-whatever and you were paying attention, you'd have that A Ha! moment and maybe get the gist of this story.

Whereas nowadays someone would chime in and tell the performer: It's pronounced heart not heart-uh!

TL/DR language is a fluid thing.
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This makes me sad.
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Originally Posted by RecceDG
This makes me sad.
Nah. Justice.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
So are you a zCAT5 now?
I don’t even know. I am in the lowest FTP group and Zwift says I am level 3. I have no idea what zCAT I am. Is that a thing??
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
TL/DR language is a fluid thing.
Poetry and music have always abided by different rules. And I am totally on board with language evolving and warping it to suit your purposes, but there is a difference between intentionally changing something to better convey your point and lazy ignorance causing people to say things that make no sense.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Power's back on. Which means I have no reason to eat all the ice cream now.

Right?
You didn't have to tell us the power was back on.
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Originally Posted by Ramona_W
I wish more places would do that. I sometimes have to go for training sessions in locations where parking is problematic i.e. there is none for several blocks. Parking issues and Phoenicians who are usually ten miles over the posted speed limit and rarely use their turn signals have very much encouraged me to take the bus and light-rail. (Plus I would feel odd driving to an event where I'm rehabbing bikes.) The organization pays for mileage but not for a $4 full-day bus pass and I think that's silly. We already have to pay extra to register a car because it has to go through emissions testing because on days like today you can barely see the mountains so why encourage people to contribute to the problem?
I'd honestly rather pay more for gas and have the bus system free.
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Originally Posted by RecceDG
This makes me sad.
The plant has been purchased by Rivian Automotive but I have no idea if they are actually doing anything there (DSM factory) other than storing VWs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivian_Automotive
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The plant has been purchased by Rivian Automotive but I have no idea if they are actually doing anything there (DSM factory) other than storing VWs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivian_Automotive
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
I wrote a maybe twenty page term paper on the idea that the entire key to understanding Chaucer's 8000 line poem, Troilus and Cressida, was to realize that there were alternate pronunciations in Middle English to the word "Heart" and based on the rhyme scheme Chaucer was using, it should have been pronounced each of those two ways when the word was repeated in consecutive lines, giving you a clue to what was in Cressida's heart and therefore why she did what she did. Was she a ***** because she was a b itch, or were the fates forcing her to be a b itch?
See [MENTION=457449]u235[/MENTION], where else are you going to get this?

P.S. Figuring out Middle Age pronunciations is an inexact science. We have no recordings.
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Poetry and music have always abided by different rules.
What rule specifically?
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I built a legacy around racing Eagle Talons.
The second-generation Talon TSi AWD was literally my (realistic) dream car for quite some time, crank-walk be damned.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
What rule specifically?
Pronunciation and grammar being secondary to rhyming, cadence, and other artistic concerns.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
The second-generation Talon TSi AWD was literally my (realistic) dream car for quite some time, crank-walk be damned.
Crankwalk wasn't really a thing unless you mounted a really high effort clutch. Keep the pressure plate spring force reasonable at it would last forever.
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Originally Posted by RecceDG
I built a legacy around racing Eagle Talons.
My son and sister both had '95 Eagle Talons. I sold my sister's for decent money after she passed away in 2013. It only had 35,000 miles on it. I wanted to keep it but my wife said she didn't want three cars around the place.
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This is me.
Want-factor high.

Red would still be better though.
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