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Old 03-28-19, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Maybe that means he won't be hungry.

Either way, I saw one ONCE on the trail while running back in CO, and that was one hell of a sprint I put in.
All you had to do was take a couple of steps back, they can't run for ****.
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Our senator got team kits made up. Half tempted to order a jersey, assuming only hers says "The Senator" on it.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Our senator got team kits made up. Half tempted to order a jersey, assuming only hers says "The Senator" on it.
Are those shoes behind her SPD or SPD-SL??
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Are those shoes behind her SPD or SPD-SL??
I wondered the same thing.
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Quick medical rant:

I use a cpap machine and recently bought two nasal pillows and two air filters from my local supplier. Got the bill yesterday and noticed that Medicare had been charged around $500.

These can be purchased online without a prescription. The highest prices that I found were $9.99 for the filters and $24.99 for the nasal pillows. Both can be found cheaper yet.

So Medicare got charge $500 for $50 worth of supplies.

Yeah, our system isn't broke... much.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
Quick medical rant:

I use a cpap machine and recently bought two nasal pillows and two air filters from my local supplier. Got the bill yesterday and noticed that Medicare had been charged around $500.

These can be purchased online without a prescription. The highest prices that I found were $9.99 for the filters and $24.99 for the nasal pillows. Both can be found cheaper yet.

So Medicare got charge $500 for $50 worth of supplies.

Yeah, our system isn't broke... much.
In the US healthcare system there is a HUGE difference between "charge," "cost," "payment," and "value."

I don't expect Medicare will actually PAY $500 despite the "charge" but you never know.
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Greed and abuse are hallmarks of the capitalist system.

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Take it to P&R you commie bastid.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
Quick medical rant:

I use a cpap machine and recently bought two nasal pillows and two air filters from my local supplier. Got the bill yesterday and noticed that Medicare had been charged around $500.

These can be purchased online without a prescription. The highest prices that I found were $9.99 for the filters and $24.99 for the nasal pillows. Both can be found cheaper yet.

So Medicare got charge $500 for $50 worth of supplies.

Yeah, our system isn't broke... much.
The shop has several customers in wheelchairs. They come to us for their tires, because of the price difference. Same Kenda tires, but if it's a "medical supply", the decimal place gets moved to the right.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Take it to P&R you commie bastid.
That was harsh. No need for name-calling.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
That was harsh. No need for name-calling.
I got your harsh right here pal!
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Originally Posted by BillyD
I got your harsh right here pal!


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Originally Posted by datlas
In the US healthcare system there is a HUGE difference between "charge," "cost," "payment," and "value."

I don't expect Medicare will actually PAY $500 despite the "charge" but you never know.
What’s also sad is that as a conscientious tax payer, I could pay the $50 for the supplies, myself. But as a greedy person, my cost is $6.66 after Medicare so let the gubmint pay the rest.
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I’ll have tos see if I can find a Medicare statement and see what was actually paid last time. But, since I don’t itemize deductions, I’m pretty sure it’s all gone to the shredder.
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What’s also sad is that as a conscientious tax payer, I could pay the $50 for the supplies, myself. But as a greedy person, my cost is $6.66 after Medicare so let the gubmint pay the rest.
It's also quite possible that Medicare will only pay a small percentage of the charge. That happens frequently.
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It's also quite possible that Medicare will only pay a small percentage of the charge. That happens frequently.
Yeah, I understand that and my bill already shows about $20 denied by Medicare. I’ll see if I can find an old EOB. Unless they’ve been shredded, I should have one since this is a recurring purchase.

It’s still a bad setup where the supply house has to bill 10x the retail cost to recoup $50.
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Originally Posted by datlas
In the US healthcare system there is a HUGE difference between "charge," "cost," "payment," and "value."

I don't expect Medicare will actually PAY $500 despite the "charge" but you never know.
Health care is a growth industry and a major employer in these here you-knighted-states. Buy a sector fund and hedge the ****ery.
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Health care is a growth industry and a major employer in these here you-knighted-states. Buy a sector fund and hedge the ****ery.
I don't want to get too P&R here but the problems with our third-party payor healthcare system and health insurance tied to employment etc. is a huge clusterfark IMO. There is no "perfect" system but ours certainly is not so great by most measures, especially value. Sad!
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I found an old EOB for identical supplies from last Spring that shows the payout from Medicare was pretty close to retail prices. After my share, the supply house made a little more than mailorder but not a lot.

Still, it's a strange system to fathom.
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I don't want to get too P&R here but the problems with our third-party payor healthcare system and health insurance tied to employment etc. is a huge clusterfark IMO. There is no "perfect" system but ours certainly is not so great by most measures, especially value. Sad!
Agree 100% and it's almost non-controversial at this point.
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I found an old EOB for identical supplies from last Spring that shows the payout from Medicare was pretty close to retail prices. After my share, the supply house made a little more than mailorder but not a lot.

Still, it's a strange system to fathom.
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In cycling related content, I have denuded my Gianni Motta and am preparing it for my 2015 Record group that I've been trying to sell. I've got ~$1700 in the group but haven't been able to sell it even at firesale prices. So, since my '78 Record group has bolts rusting, friction shifts, weighs a ton, etc., the conversion has begun to the all carbon parts of the Campy Record group and the carbon K-wing bars.

New Campy UltraTorque BB cups are ordered and the frame is going in to have the BB shell faced this morning. I weighed the bike before stripping of the parts at 21.83#. It will be interesting to see what it weighs after conversion. I'm going to piece out the old Record group, bars, wheels, etc.
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