The Aussie Thread- Part 4
#3677
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From: Bathurst oz
Originally Posted by jock
There was so much to take in, what could one do? So I stayed a while and checked out the scenery. It was like a voyage of discover, with scantily clad young women running this way and that with superb tans and heaving chests. There were other young ladies peeling their outer garb in the most seductive manner, the head down-arse up arrangement with knees together so as to effect a disturbingly erotic removal of pants/skirts. It was a sea of hornbags all doing their thing for humanity...
#3678
Phat but not too fat

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From: Bay of Plenty
Bikes: Kona Zing & Conder Cone
Well I'm back from the Twin Coast Cycle Challenge 360km in 11:15.
I think I started one group too high as I got dropped each day but picked up fellow sufferers and finished each day in a small group. Best bit - the descent off the last (4km) climb
. Worst bit - having to stop on the steepest climb after getting down to a cadence of about 30 and take a moment before zig-zagging the last 200m to the top
. The really worst bit - coming last out of my mates by 5 minutes
After a diet of pasta and creamed rice for four days, it'll be a good week or two before I want to see either. I knocked off a Coopers Pale Ale and 1/2 a bottle of red wine last night
Lets hope the road cycling works out better for the kiwis as the track turned out to be a big collection of 4ths
The car vs bike thing sounds a bit the same as happens here. It usually turns out that unless bones get broken the cops aren't really interested
I hope recovery is swift for the rider, and retribution slow and painful for the pink shirted nob-head.
I'll go for a Matin acoustic and Les Paul electric any day.
I think I started one group too high as I got dropped each day but picked up fellow sufferers and finished each day in a small group. Best bit - the descent off the last (4km) climb
. Worst bit - having to stop on the steepest climb after getting down to a cadence of about 30 and take a moment before zig-zagging the last 200m to the top
. The really worst bit - coming last out of my mates by 5 minutes
After a diet of pasta and creamed rice for four days, it'll be a good week or two before I want to see either. I knocked off a Coopers Pale Ale and 1/2 a bottle of red wine last night
Lets hope the road cycling works out better for the kiwis as the track turned out to be a big collection of 4ths

The car vs bike thing sounds a bit the same as happens here. It usually turns out that unless bones get broken the cops aren't really interested
I hope recovery is swift for the rider, and retribution slow and painful for the pink shirted nob-head.I'll go for a Matin acoustic and Les Paul electric any day.
#3679
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So you've been copping heaps from yer mates then? Dun worry, that should subside after 6 months or so.
Kiwis have been awfully quiet in the cycling. TT, MTB, and Road to come. Maybe they can pull an upset out of the bag...
Kiwis have been awfully quiet in the cycling. TT, MTB, and Road to come. Maybe they can pull an upset out of the bag...
#3680
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Bikes: Wilier, Alchemy, Merida MTB,
Discovered on the weekend that the carport/lean to at the caravan park in Moama was not high enough to fit the car with my MTB on the roof. Doh!
End result not too bad, seat took all the impact so a new one was duly purchased the next day. Choices were limited so I am now giving a Specialized "split for your bits" style a go.
I'll also admit to being the owner of a Mexican Fender Strat that i bought new in the USA about 15 yrs ago and have been happy with. But I'd swap it in an instant for a nice Gretsch hollow body!
End result not too bad, seat took all the impact so a new one was duly purchased the next day. Choices were limited so I am now giving a Specialized "split for your bits" style a go.
I'll also admit to being the owner of a Mexican Fender Strat that i bought new in the USA about 15 yrs ago and have been happy with. But I'd swap it in an instant for a nice Gretsch hollow body!
#3681
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From: Between the mountains and the lake.
Bikes: 8 bikes - one for each day of the week!
I'll cop to the Fender Strat, but I can't play, and it's hardly seen daylight in the last 3+ years.
#3682
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From: Wherever good bikes are sold
Bikes: Thylacines...only Thylacines.
I played guitar for about a year, and always wanted an Orange amp and a Hamer for that big metal chug.
Went to the Corner last night to see my mates band Peeping Tom and Clutch from the US. The Clutch guitarist had quite a set-up running a Marshall head, Quadbox as well as a Vox.
If any of you are in the market for a super nice guitar, check out my friend Tim's custom hand made guitars....
https://www.lovellguitars.com.au/guitars.htm

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Man, I've got the games running in the background here, and here comes an ad with Sam Neil espousing the virtues of eating red meat 3-4 times a week because 'we were meant to'. What an ignornant, money grubbing *****. Hows the coronary and colon cancer coming along, Sam?
Went to the Corner last night to see my mates band Peeping Tom and Clutch from the US. The Clutch guitarist had quite a set-up running a Marshall head, Quadbox as well as a Vox.
If any of you are in the market for a super nice guitar, check out my friend Tim's custom hand made guitars....
https://www.lovellguitars.com.au/guitars.htm

*edit*
Man, I've got the games running in the background here, and here comes an ad with Sam Neil espousing the virtues of eating red meat 3-4 times a week because 'we were meant to'. What an ignornant, money grubbing *****. Hows the coronary and colon cancer coming along, Sam?
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#3683
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Originally Posted by Thylacine
If any of you are in the market for a super nice guitar, check out my friend Tim's custom hand made guitars....
#3684
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Bikes: Thylacines...only Thylacines.
Hey, ya gotta support ya mates, right? It's even easier when they do such seriously noice stuff. Get in before he gets 'discovered' and his prices go through the roof.
#3685
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Once knw a guy who made his own guitars. Used to shape the necks with an angle grinder 
But there was nothing wrong with them playing-wise

But there was nothing wrong with them playing-wise
#3686
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Originally Posted by Thylacine
cost more than a BT
#3687
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Very pretty. I've always wondered how a guitar made from a really dense aussie hardwood would sound. You'd need a crane or an engine lifter to hold it though
#3688
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Originally Posted by Thylacine
Man, I've got the games running in the background here, and here comes an ad with Sam Neil espousing the virtues of eating red meat 3-4 times a week because 'we were meant to'. What an ignornant, money grubbing *****. Hows the coronary and colon cancer coming along, Sam? 

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#3689
Thor's dad
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From: Oz
Bikes: 2006 Trek 5200, Avanti Corsa Pro, Giant Yukon, Ricardo Cro-Mo, 1992 Mongoose pro-comp, 1980 DiamondBack senior pro, 1980 Quicksilver... half a dozen other BMX bikes in various stages of completion.
Originally Posted by Thylacine
...
*edit*
Man, I've got the games running in the background here, and here comes an ad with Sam Neil espousing the virtues of eating red meat 3-4 times a week because 'we were meant to'. What an ignornant, money grubbing *****. Hows the coronary and colon cancer coming along, Sam?
*edit*
Man, I've got the games running in the background here, and here comes an ad with Sam Neil espousing the virtues of eating red meat 3-4 times a week because 'we were meant to'. What an ignornant, money grubbing *****. Hows the coronary and colon cancer coming along, Sam?


Never had a Strat, got a crappy Strat copy though. I was a bass man in a few bands back in the 80's/90's. Never liked P basses cos the necks were so wide but a Jazz Bass... mmmm my favourite. (sold it years ago to buy furniture)
#3690
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Worst guitar I ever owned was a Vantage X.99. Absolute garbage, there was NOTHING good about them.
Vote for most toneless and most ridiculous looking guitar combined categories: Ibanez Phil Collins replica. Triple humbuckers, volume 0 or 10 (no in between), tone same across all pickups. I still bought one.
Most outta control guitar: Ibanez George Benson series. Fabulous guitar, ridiculously heavy (as in unplayable after 2 songs if you were standing), active tone controls had waaay to much grunt and were better referred to as active tone UNcontrols.
Wish I hadn't sold that one. 
Best utility guitar (after serious mods to remove design and manufacturing flaws) and best action (I see a flame war on the horizon): Vantage X.35 Avenger. This is the guitar I kept when I got married, and I still love playing it. Here's just some of the things that had to be fixed: earth loop hum, pickup bays unshielded, microphonic pickups, crap bridge, strap creak, crackly pots, crackly jack, ... I think I'll stop there. Still my favourite guitar
Vote for most toneless and most ridiculous looking guitar combined categories: Ibanez Phil Collins replica. Triple humbuckers, volume 0 or 10 (no in between), tone same across all pickups. I still bought one.
Most outta control guitar: Ibanez George Benson series. Fabulous guitar, ridiculously heavy (as in unplayable after 2 songs if you were standing), active tone controls had waaay to much grunt and were better referred to as active tone UNcontrols.
Wish I hadn't sold that one. 
Best utility guitar (after serious mods to remove design and manufacturing flaws) and best action (I see a flame war on the horizon): Vantage X.35 Avenger. This is the guitar I kept when I got married, and I still love playing it. Here's just some of the things that had to be fixed: earth loop hum, pickup bays unshielded, microphonic pickups, crap bridge, strap creak, crackly pots, crackly jack, ... I think I'll stop there. Still my favourite guitar
#3691
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dudes, read my lips: don't be scared of eating meat. We've been eating animals for at least 150,000 years, but we've only been trying to digest grains for 10,000.
there are studies, and studies, and more studies, but the epidemiological stuff is the most intriguing. What about all them Eskimos who live on seal blubber and organs, but don't have heart disease? Or all the islanders who live on coccunut, without CHD?
https://www.theomnivore.com/sat-fat-chol-CHD.html
The Masai tribe of East Africa ate ~300g a day of mostly saturated fat, but were free of CHD.
The Samburu tribe, also of East Africa, virtually live on milk, consuming ~400g of sat fat a day through the wet season, but are free of CHD.
The people of the Pukapuka and Tokeluau Pacific atolls ate a bunch of coconuts, obtaining up to 53% of their daily calories from saturated fats, but were free of CHD.
And we all probably know about the French "paraodox", who, depsite eating more saturated fat than any other Western European country, have the lowest rates of CHD
"You may also be thinking that a high level of physical activity was responsible for the low rate of CHD amongst the aforementioned populations. The Masai, for example, walk up to 30 miles a day. That no doubt helped, but not because it was countering any purported harmful effects of saturated fat. After all, heavy physical activity did not help the population of North Karelia, Finland in the 1960's. Despite a high proportion of lumberjacks and farmers, residents of this isolated community suffered one of the highest CHD rates in the world. The population of St. Helena, where motorized transport was rare and the residents were forced to transverse the hilly landscape by foot, was also observed to suffer from a high rate of CHD. Fat consumption was relatively low in St. Helena, but sugar consumption was high (17).
"Perhaps you are thinking that the Masai, Samburu and Pacific islanders are blessed with some sort of genetic protection against the allegedly harmful effects of saturated fat. Hardly. Studies show that when the Masai migrate to Nairobi where they are exposed to a more "refined" diet and sedentary lifestyle, their cholesterol levels rise, discounting the proffered notion that their low cholesterol levels were a manifestation of some sort of advantageous genetic aberration (12). When Pukapuka and Tokeluau residents moved to New Zealand, where they were similarly exposed to processed foods and a more sedentary lifestyle, they experienced a marked increase of gout, diabetes and other degenerative disorders (13-16)"https://www.theomnivore.com/sat-fat-chol-CHD.html
"The incidence of acute myocardial infarction is seven times higher in southern India than in northern India; however, in southern India, dietary fat provides only 3.5 percent of total calories, 45 percent of which is polyunsaturated. In northern India, dietary fat provides 23 percent of total calories, only 2 percent of which is polyunsaturated.(3)
Ischemic heart disease is not a problem in populations whose diet derives over 45 percent of its total calories from coconut-derived fat.(4) The fat contained in the coconut is 95 percent saturated fat. This percentage of fat is even higher than butter and much higher than the common vegetable oils we currently use.
Before Western dietary habits were introduced into the Eskimo population, Eskimos lived almost exclusively on animal meat and animal fat. Yet the incidence of heart disease among the Eskimos was very low and cholesterol levels were below 200 mg.(5)"
https://www.arltma.com/CholMystDoc.htm
what it all basically says is that it ain't saturated fat or cholesterol causing arterial inflammation, but it's the lack of antioxidants, lack of exercise, smoking, stress, synthetic oils, poor omega 3:6 FA ratio
there are studies, and studies, and more studies, but the epidemiological stuff is the most intriguing. What about all them Eskimos who live on seal blubber and organs, but don't have heart disease? Or all the islanders who live on coccunut, without CHD?
https://www.theomnivore.com/sat-fat-chol-CHD.html
The Masai tribe of East Africa ate ~300g a day of mostly saturated fat, but were free of CHD.
The Samburu tribe, also of East Africa, virtually live on milk, consuming ~400g of sat fat a day through the wet season, but are free of CHD.
The people of the Pukapuka and Tokeluau Pacific atolls ate a bunch of coconuts, obtaining up to 53% of their daily calories from saturated fats, but were free of CHD.
And we all probably know about the French "paraodox", who, depsite eating more saturated fat than any other Western European country, have the lowest rates of CHD
"You may also be thinking that a high level of physical activity was responsible for the low rate of CHD amongst the aforementioned populations. The Masai, for example, walk up to 30 miles a day. That no doubt helped, but not because it was countering any purported harmful effects of saturated fat. After all, heavy physical activity did not help the population of North Karelia, Finland in the 1960's. Despite a high proportion of lumberjacks and farmers, residents of this isolated community suffered one of the highest CHD rates in the world. The population of St. Helena, where motorized transport was rare and the residents were forced to transverse the hilly landscape by foot, was also observed to suffer from a high rate of CHD. Fat consumption was relatively low in St. Helena, but sugar consumption was high (17).
"Perhaps you are thinking that the Masai, Samburu and Pacific islanders are blessed with some sort of genetic protection against the allegedly harmful effects of saturated fat. Hardly. Studies show that when the Masai migrate to Nairobi where they are exposed to a more "refined" diet and sedentary lifestyle, their cholesterol levels rise, discounting the proffered notion that their low cholesterol levels were a manifestation of some sort of advantageous genetic aberration (12). When Pukapuka and Tokeluau residents moved to New Zealand, where they were similarly exposed to processed foods and a more sedentary lifestyle, they experienced a marked increase of gout, diabetes and other degenerative disorders (13-16)"https://www.theomnivore.com/sat-fat-chol-CHD.html
"The incidence of acute myocardial infarction is seven times higher in southern India than in northern India; however, in southern India, dietary fat provides only 3.5 percent of total calories, 45 percent of which is polyunsaturated. In northern India, dietary fat provides 23 percent of total calories, only 2 percent of which is polyunsaturated.(3)
Ischemic heart disease is not a problem in populations whose diet derives over 45 percent of its total calories from coconut-derived fat.(4) The fat contained in the coconut is 95 percent saturated fat. This percentage of fat is even higher than butter and much higher than the common vegetable oils we currently use.
Before Western dietary habits were introduced into the Eskimo population, Eskimos lived almost exclusively on animal meat and animal fat. Yet the incidence of heart disease among the Eskimos was very low and cholesterol levels were below 200 mg.(5)"
https://www.arltma.com/CholMystDoc.htm
what it all basically says is that it ain't saturated fat or cholesterol causing arterial inflammation, but it's the lack of antioxidants, lack of exercise, smoking, stress, synthetic oils, poor omega 3:6 FA ratio
#3692
Originally Posted by jock
Anyway, I jumped on the gitane and headed from Maitland down towards Newcastle (sorry Kotter, not enuf time to arrange a ride, next time). Norwester failed me at Beresfield, about 10km into the 35km journey, so plugged away into the seabreeze which got stronger the closer I got to the coast. When I reached the foreshore my speed dropped below 30 and stayed that way until I got past Nobbys.
But definately next time, I need to start stringing some longer rides together, all this sprinting to uni is beginnining to get boring.
Another topic:
Hey Expat, the lemond bag isnt very strong, the stabilizer strap broke to day. Lucky me mum is good with the sewing
#3693
Originally Posted by 531Aussie
dudes, read my lips: don't be scared of eating meat.
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Nice how you avoided the ethics and intellectual decision to eat meat there, Nev, as well as the fact that Sam Neil is rich enough to not need to do this sort of advertising. Wonder if he has some alterior motives? He probably owns a sheep farm and an abbatoir!
#3695
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Originally Posted by Thylacine
Nice how you avoided the ethics and intellectual decision to eat meat there, Nev, !
There's obviously some horrible slaughtering going on around the world -- I nearly cried when I saw that cow on 60 minutes get its Achilles' slashed, then its eye sliced out while it was still alive, just to make it easier for the guy to put a hook in its eye socket and steer its head around -- but, like I suggested: put a bunch vegans in the bush and see how their ethics hold up when they start starving after a couple of days!! "Ethics are very convenient for the full of belly"
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#3696
Originally Posted by 531Aussie
what it all basically says is that it ain't saturated fat or cholesterol causing arterial inflammation, but it's the lack of antioxidants, lack of exercise, smoking, stress, synthetic oils, poor omega 3:6 FA ratio
sorry for the triple post
#3697
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Cholesterol is required for the manufacture of cell membranes, basic building blocks of the stress and sex hormones*, and bile.
Your body manufactures cholestrol in the liver in response to dietary intake of cholesterol. So if you lower your intake of lipids you body will get upset and just start creating some anyway.
Some ppl (like me, my father, his father, etc) have a natural predisposition to high total lipid counts. Grandad died at 87. Dad is 75, fit and healthy, and still ignoring the quacks. My total lipid count was >7.6mmol/l at age 17 (non-smoker, teetotal, peak fitness, very little body fat, diet not overly high in fats), and is still over 7.
* These include the male and female sex hormones (androgens and estrogens) as well as the adrenal corticoid hormones (cortisol, corticosterone, aldosterone, and others which are also the hormones of the Stress Mechanism).
Your body manufactures cholestrol in the liver in response to dietary intake of cholesterol. So if you lower your intake of lipids you body will get upset and just start creating some anyway.
Some ppl (like me, my father, his father, etc) have a natural predisposition to high total lipid counts. Grandad died at 87. Dad is 75, fit and healthy, and still ignoring the quacks. My total lipid count was >7.6mmol/l at age 17 (non-smoker, teetotal, peak fitness, very little body fat, diet not overly high in fats), and is still over 7.
* These include the male and female sex hormones (androgens and estrogens) as well as the adrenal corticoid hormones (cortisol, corticosterone, aldosterone, and others which are also the hormones of the Stress Mechanism).
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#3698
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Originally Posted by mrkott3r
but can you explain about synethetic oils 9where they are found), whats omega? and whats a 3:6 FA ratio.
there's some good stuff here, and it's fully referenced
https://www.theomnivore.com/home.html
#3699
Originally Posted by jock
Some ppl (like me, my father, his father, etc) have a natural predisposition to high total LDL counts. Grandad died at 87. Dad is 75, fit and healthy, and still ignoring the quacks. My total LDL count was >7.6mmol/l at age 17 (non-smoker, teetotal, peak fitness, very little body fat, diet not overly high in fats), and is still over 7.
so i take it over 7 is bad?
#3700
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Bikes: Wilier, Alchemy, Merida MTB,
Geez, I thought I was in the wrong thread. Did someone cross "Training & Nutrition" with P&R?



