Last time I looked we were sitting in front of our computers in our comfy loungrooms and offices, not in the middle of the bush starving. We leave that up to the thirld world as we force their governments to plant cash crops to pay off their debts etc.

Anyway, can we stay away from the boring absolutism? Simply the act of making a decision based on morals and an intellectual process doesn't make you a crusader or beyond reproach. Who's arguing that? Just as I'm sure many vegetarians and vegans sometimes eat meat or sometimes wear things made from animal products (as I do) doesn't mean that people who do eat meat will hack and slash and eat anything that crosses their path, or feel guilty when they chomp on a carrot. Ethics are not absolute.

The only thing that is, is your love of cheap and nasty bike bargains and broken steel Cervelos!

Anyway, don't get me started.

Yet there is not a single reference to what a western meat based diet is doing to the rest of the globe.

Sorry, but I really couldn't be arsed listening to a well read meatheat who hasn't even bothered to get into the hows and whys of our diet any furthen than to find out "Will this diet make me fat?" or "I noticed it was becoming increasingly harder to maintain the lean, "ripped", vascular look that I had always prided myself on."

Selfish, shallow, and only looking for evidence to back up his own annecdotal ramblings.

NEXT!

I bet he still goes home on Sundays so his Nonna can cook him dinner!

sorry, I was being slack there with my abreviation

It's the ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 fatty acids. Most westerners eat too much omega 6 -- mostly from polyunsaturates (stoopid hippy food) and not enough omega 3 (mostly found in fish oils), and this screws up our inflammatory and coagulation regulation. Basically, too little Omega 3 increases the risk of arterial inflammation.

not sure what you mean there.

what about the so-called "French Paradox"? They eat more saturated fat than ANY OTHER westernised country, but have the lowest rates of CHD!! If saturated is THE cause of CHD, why don't they get it? The best the statin-funded, indoctrinated can do is refer to it as a "paradox".


Anyway, I forgot to put in my usual disclaimer about Colpo's site, which is 'don't be put off by the Muscle Mag-type front page'. I wish he set his site up so it looked more scientific, and less macho.

Also, he's been published: https://www.jpands.org/vol10no3/colpo.pdf

Beat that!!

When you get published in The Journal of Steel is Real, let me know!!

eh...I'm not equipped to get into an animal rights 'discussion' with a lefto pinky -- espeically one who's smarter than me

ANYWAY, stuff all that rubbish.........

who reckons training on Cosmic Carbones on Beach Road is a toss?

Most Sundays, I see this peanut/hack, with no legs and a C50 with Cosmics, and he tries to torch me be sprinting up the road 50m, then puffing his guts out, dropping back, then trying again!! After doing this 3 times he turns off.

I bascially just want you all to say, "yeah, you're right, Nev -- he's a bonehead, and you're grouse"

hey Ody, how long are them Eastern Vets road races on Satdee arvos?

C and D grade was 50km, A and B did 68ish. (rolling hills)
There were a coule of Southerns there.
The Saturday crits are just an hour.

I was always of the opinion that the whole training on Beach Rd thing was a toss....

thanks

April 1st is the next rr @ Strathewen (near Hurstbridge)
You gonna have a crack? Aren't you in A?

Evidence you're a tosser -

1) You ride Beach rd.
2) You have a Colnago.
3) You have Cosmic Carbones as your training wheels.
4) You attempt to outgun Nev on the rollers just before Mordy.

I saw two blokes on matching C50's at Amy's Ride. Matching bikes, helmets, knicks, jerseys, gloves... the whole bit. Made a nice couple

I bet they were vegans

Everyone know that if the bloke was fair dinkum he'd have the Campag Boras

Yeah, like a vegan would be caught dead on an overpriced carbon bike. We all know they'd be riding an op-shop Malvern Star....kinda like Nev.

Was it windy? Where were the Zipp discs?Jeez, the cost of living in Mexico must be making them feel the pinch. Better move to Australias favourite capital!

Are you sure they weren't Erik Dekker and Michel Boogard sneaking in some training?

Maybe Nev accidently got caught up in the Commonwealth Games Triathlon.

'****, what are all these people doing out today?"

I bet they were middle age poseurs with too much disposable income. More likely to be secret followers of Atkins but will eat vegetarian sushi in public

The four day tour I just did was heavily populated by guys (my age) on C50s, Kuotas, Serottas, Madones, CR1s rolling on Cosmics, Zipps and the fancy new red and carbon hubbed Ksyriums. I passed quite a lot of them on my 4 year old GT with Ultegra and A-Class wheelset

don't forget my op-shop wheels!! Am i the only guy still using Ultegra hubs, stainless steel DTs, 'normal' rims and more than 10 spokes per wheel??? Crikey!! Not only am I the last guy on Beach Rd riding steel, I'm also the last guy with aluminium!!! Beach Rd should be changed to "Module Blvd"

i just pretended I was a pro by riding right along side the temporary barriers on Beach Rd..

yeah!! Back in my day we had aluminium, and I didn't hear no-one complainin'!!!

there are 3 guys who do Beach Rd on the weekends, all with matching Bianchis, maching celeste green Bianchis outfits, and matching celeste green Bianchi booties!!

What a bunch of poofs!!

not sure -- I'm still a bit too fat and me back's palyin' up