Crushed granite. What we've yet to realise here in Australia because we're so backward, is that if you get a stack of people riding a completely 'natural' track, it's actually not sustainable. Very quickly you start to run into run-off and errosion problems, and as we don't have the infrastructure nor the volunteer base (when was the last time any of us did any trail maintenance?), very soon (or not, as the case my be) you have an environmental disaster area.

I wish the gromits and freeride idiots woke up and realised that. It's a real bone-of-contention with me.

Anyway, the Lysterfield track is designed to be sustainable. It has swales, run-off trenches, and crushed granite in the high wear areas. It's not a pristine virgin singletrack adventure, but it's still a fun track in some nice bush that's definitely worth riding. Its only a part of a wider trail network too, which is another bonus.

3 million bucks well spent, I reckon.

Oh yes.....rates himself fairly highly.

+1

Excellent postage.

WTF is a swale ?

Either someone from Swaziland


or part of Kent in England.

That sounds made up, or is it the aussie shortend way of saying it?

Everything 'round here is either solid or crushed granite... my fence posts are dyna-bolted into it

Yup, I've been sneaking across the road fer a squizz since they started building it and have to agree 100%. There were a lot of people *****ing about some of the old trails being closed off etc but FFS, look what we've got now.

It's natural selection in action - the ones that are left have got the technology nailed!!!

or "bonus contention", as Alan Martello says

how does Festival Hall look these days?

have they done it up?

Sorry, that's what you get when you're married to a Landscape Architect! You absorb all storts of stuff normal people wouldn't give two sh¡ts about.

A swale is like a drain that's designed to naturally disperse rainwater run-off. Or something to that effect.

oh, yeah, I get it now

and all this time you thought they were specially built components of the trail that you were supposed to powerslide over

Kind of.....it's still reminiscent of a decrepit old gymnasium, but the sound system is now awesome. The bass during "Golddigger" was incredible. Was about 60 degrees in the licenced floor section...I was sweatier than Robbie during the Athens road race.


I hadn't been there since Ice Cube in about 1994!!! It's certainly better than it was back then...

Are you trying to say that the "House of Stoush" is not in pristine condition?

Ed? WTF is with all the rapp artists? Did you miss out on the 80's pub rock scene or something?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swale

So...who's gunna head in for a look at the Comm Games RR on Sunday?

Punt Rd hill looks like a good spot for some action, or maybe Anderson St. there are a couple of technical turns down near the Yarra too that might sort out who can handle a bike & who cant.

he he!! Yep....I get that a lot!!

Dunno really....to look at me, I'm just like any other white-bread, ***** ****** out there. Just started listening to Peblic enemy, LL Cool J, EPMD, NWA etc etc as a young bloke and really liked it.


Snoop Doog at Rod Laver in 2 weeks......can't wait....fo shizzle my nizzle!!!

We need an TAT IV offical rally point and time.....

I haven't been there since Billy Idol in about 1987 (free ticket, I promise ), and it looked like an oversized barn back then. It think there might've even been sawdust on the floor and cobwebs hanging from the ceiling

LOL. I saw George Thoroghgood and the Destroyers at FH.

I'm Bad to the Bone

I'll be there, but I'll have family in tow.
How long do ya reckon a 2 & 4 year old will be able to handle it for?

Odin, take a picnic and a bat and ball for the kids if they are into that, and park yourself in the gardens. Atleast the wife won't resent you unless you take off to punt road for 10 laps

+1.

I saw Ice cube, Ice-T, House of Pain etc at Glasgow Barrowlands...
Claim to fame is a high 5 from Chuck-D at the PE concert. Havnt washed it yet