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ed073 05-30-06 05:15 PM

what the hell is Firefox?? I thought it was a bad Clint Eastwood movie.

matagi 05-30-06 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by royale
On a different topic, do any of you guys use software to track your training schedule? Like a training diary of some sort.

I had a quick look but couldn't find anything worth using. Any ideas?

I'm probably going to right my own web based one if I can't find anything. Any input as to what it should contain would be awesome.

I just put the stats from my cycling computer into Excel - haven't done any data massaging but Excel has some pretty powerful tools for graphing, linking cells etc. etc. Unfortunately, I am not sufficiently skilled with Excel to take advantage of its more sophisticated features.

Wilchemy 05-30-06 05:41 PM

+1 on inputting stats into Excel & then not knowing what else to do with them

matagi 05-30-06 05:42 PM

Anyone here familiar with Trek bikes? What size stem does the Trek 7300 have?

I am asking because a friend of ours wants to change the suspension fork for a rigid fork and has been told by his LBS that it can't be done because of the combination of V-brakes, 700C wheels and stem size.

Asked the question at our LBS and he said that stems commonly come in 1" or 1 1/8" - he was pretty sure Treks had 1 1/8" stems.

Which would mean it is entirely possible to replace the Trek suspension fork with a rigid one because other bikes use the V-brake/700C wheel/1 1/8" stem combo. Unless Treks have some bizarre proprietary setup which means you can't use aftermarket forks.

matagi 05-30-06 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Wilchemy
+1 on inputting stats into Excel & then not knowing what else to do with them

I do graph my weight though. :p

royale 05-30-06 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by matagi
I do graph my weight though. :p

Current weight might actually be something else I might want to track.

Excel is made by microsoft so theres no way I'm going down that path.

The advantage of writing your own is you can make it do whatever you want. Theres always the risk of re-inventing the wheel though, if there is already a tool for the job.

Thylacine 05-30-06 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by matagi
I do graph my weight though. :p

So how fat are you this week?

jock 05-30-06 06:23 PM

Bloody useles consumer crap. :mad:

Does anyone know of a cheap military grade HRM that won't break after a few months of use? I now have two boat anchors, one polar one echowell

matagi 05-30-06 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Thylacine
So how fat are you this week?

Let's just say it could do with some improvement. :o

Two things you never ask a woman - her age and what she weighs. :)

HDTVKSS 05-30-06 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by jock
Bloody useles consumer crap. :mad:

Does anyone know of a cheap military grade HRM that won't break after a few months of use? I now have two boat anchors, one polar one echowell


I have a polar S210 which has survived many an OTB excursion on the MTB and is still running strong. IMHO its a good, no frills unit.

pshaw 05-30-06 06:56 PM

I use polar, seems pretty good!

matagi 05-30-06 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by royale
Excel is made by microsoft so theres no way I'm going down that path.

I can understand that. I'm not a big Microsoft fan myself, but there is no denying that Excel is one powerful program and relatively bug free.

According to hubby, there is something called StarOffice made by Sun which he thinks has most of the functionality of Excel but is based on OpenOffice. You might want to have look at that.

If you do decide to write your own - your challenge is to do it in as few lines of code as possible with no redundant loops. :D

jock 05-30-06 07:28 PM

Noone uses BASICA anymore matagi :p

matagi 05-30-06 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by jock
Noone uses BASICA anymore matagi :p

What is this BASICA? We probably have it on a 5 1/4" diskette somewhere. :D

Hubby only uses Assembler. :lol:

jock 05-30-06 07:47 PM

Why u knock assembler? is good. is fast.

Anyone interested in a DeRosa frame http://www.graysonline.com.au/sale.asp?SALE_ID=50132 catalogue out tomorrow

matagi 05-30-06 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by jock
Why u knock assembler? is good. is fast.

Anyone interested in a DeRosa frame http://www.graysonline.com.au/sale.asp?SALE_ID=50132 catalogue out tomorrow

I no knock Assembler - is only thing hubby writes in these days. Leaves those flabby high level things for dead if you want crisp, clean, pared down code.

royale 05-30-06 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by existence
heres what i do in terms of data acquisition:

1. buy a tanita body composition digital scale (ironman series preferred)
2. use excel if you have too or wite your own script
3. utilize kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm (its the best estimate of power and Kcals ive come across - and ive wasted quite a few hours looking...)
4. go check out fitday.com
5. HMR - Polar
6. Cycle comp - cateye double wireless or anything else that gives the good stuff

ok now i record everything...but my focus is on nutrition and wellbeing NOT max speed lol so i am more inclined to track data such as the following:

in terms of general catergories:
1.training plan schedule
2.training session data
3.cross training session data
4.training route data/composition
5.health data
6.nutritional data

Training Session Data: date,time commenced,route,bike used, distance,time on bike, total duration, avg speed, pace, max speed, avg cadence, max cadence, total calories burnt, calories per/km, calories per/hr, power (watts avg), elevation gain, elevation (metres/hr), HR (avg), HR (max), HR (beats per km), HR (Target Zone 1,2,3,4,5,6), intensity rating (1-10), wellbeing rating (1-10), workout rating (1-10), Wind Factor (1-10), Temperature (Air), Workout Notes.

Health Data: Date, Time, Context (pre-ride, post meal etc), weight, resting HR, bodt Fat %, Visceral Fat Rating, BMR Calories (Base Metabolic Rate), metabolic age, muscle mass, muscle mass rating, bone mass, hydration (Total body water %), blood pressure, general notes.

Nutrition Data: Date, Total Calories, Total Fat (Calories), Fat (Sat), Fat (Poly), Fat (Mono), total carbohydrate (Calories), Fibre (grams), Total Protein (Calories), Total Protein (Grams), Fat % Total Calories, Carbohydrate % Total Calories, Protein % Total Calories.

I also then factor in broad based totals (where applicable) and then total averages of my averages (where applicable).

I havent included everything but thats basically what i like to do...once you get into a routine it really only takes 30 mins out of your day :D

Wow, thats heaps of stuff. I can proabably add most of that stuff in without too much trouble.
I'll keep you guys in the loop as I'm pretty new to 'real' training and recording all this stuff.

I've got to buy a new web hosting package, but i'll put in on line so you can take a look.

royale 05-30-06 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by matagi
I can understand that. I'm not a big Microsoft fan myself, but there is no denying that Excel is one powerful program and relatively bug free.

According to hubby, there is something called StarOffice made by Sun which he thinks has most of the functionality of Excel but is based on OpenOffice. You might want to have look at that.

If you do decide to write your own - your challenge is to do it in as few lines of code as possible with no redundant loops. :D

I use NeoOffice (based in Open Office) on my mac's, and use open office on my linux desktops.

I'll be writing the program using java with a mySQL backend, so I don't actually need a spreadsheet tool.

As for assembler, well, you can have that. The whole point of 3G languages is so you don't have to think like a computer.

jock 05-30-06 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by matagi
I no knock Assembler - is only thing hubby writes in these days. Leaves those flabby high level things for dead if you want crisp, clean, pared down code.

Especially good for anyone who likes to rewrite the universe from scratch everytime they start a project. eg. "I need to write to the screen. I'll need to write a driver that handles every possible hardware permutation and configuration for that." :lol:

jock 05-30-06 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by royale
The whole point of 3G languages is so you don't have to think like a computer.

That's just lame and lazy royale :p

HDTVKSS 05-30-06 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by existence
my god de rosa bikes are ugly....especially the tango!!! :eek:

agreed! id go that merckx copy job down the bottom though. mmmm steeel :: drool :::love:

531Aussie 05-30-06 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by ed073
what the hell is Firefox?? I thought it was a bad Clint Eastwood movie.

different internet browser that all these guys reckon is better than Explorer.


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