The Aussie Thread- Part 4
01-08-06 | 11:41 PM
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Mcewen was in fine form RE: alpha male status, at the bay crits. Not shy in giving orders. It made me think of Cipo at the giro enforcing a piano stage, and pointing out the donne belle at the side of the rode.
Ed, my point was I think there will be some riders up the rode without Robbie Mac this year. No denying his class, even in his off season. I would prefer him to win San Remo, but I think his ego will take the opportunity if it arises
Ed, my point was I think there will be some riders up the rode without Robbie Mac this year. No denying his class, even in his off season. I would prefer him to win San Remo, but I think his ego will take the opportunity if it arises
01-08-06 | 11:46 PM
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I left out Josh Collingwood. It will be interesting to see what he does in the tt. Count him out on the road but he should be able to podium if his recent lab test numbers are accurate.
Left out Jamieson. Could be a chance to unseat Milsotic or Oneil from the senior tt. Should win the junior tt. Walker wont be riding it.
Dont know about Jamieson for the u23. Prefer Walker, Lloyd, Clarke and Hatton
Left out Jamieson. Could be a chance to unseat Milsotic or Oneil from the senior tt. Should win the junior tt. Walker wont be riding it.
Dont know about Jamieson for the u23. Prefer Walker, Lloyd, Clarke and Hatton
01-08-06 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by thunder
Mcewen was in fine form RE: alpha male status, at the bay crits. Not shy in giving orders. It made me think of Cipo at the giro enforcing a piano stage, and pointing out the donne belle at the side of the rode.
Ed, my point was I think there will be some riders up the rode without Robbie Mac this year. No denying his class, even in his off season. I would prefer him to win San Remo, but I think his ego will take the opportunity if it arises
Ed, my point was I think there will be some riders up the rode without Robbie Mac this year. No denying his class, even in his off season. I would prefer him to win San Remo, but I think his ego will take the opportunity if it arises
+1 on San-Remo for Robbie, but with a sniff of the finish, he can't help himself......a psycho competitive streak.
If not him, I reckon my not-so-old mate Matt Wilson might get the chockies.
01-09-06 | 12:18 AM
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what does everyone think of Tomalaris, personally I think he is a
A TOOL
He has been to 10 tours and still has not learnt the nuances and intricacies.
case in point: O'Grady has got in one more breakaway (read:yet another) and not won.The break splintered because, ofcourse, no one wished to ride a fast man to the finish. Now O'Grady whinges and whines and curses the other riders in the break when they cross the line into the marshalling area. They exchange words. Now Tomalaris jumps in with bromides and platitudes and proves the sycophant that he is.
He asks questions to the effect of, "is that in the spirit of cycling, not chasing, not doing a pull" note, tomalaris would not use the term pull for cycling that is strictly a nocturnal leisure activity.
Instead of asking OG "did you have the legs" "why did not you make the first move" "why did not you force selection" "why did you expect them to ride you to the finish" "did you expect the break just to stay together for a group sprint"... proper journo's questions. Probing OG's tactics and his road smarts. Assessing his legs on their merit on the day, Tomalaris reduces the 2 minute piece to pandering to Ogrady and feeding his ego.
Alternate case: The only time he has made a "hard-hitting" question, is when he asked a question regarding OG's age in another interview before the tour. When OG had turned 30, did Toma expect his career to slide, has he any knowledge of the most fruitful periods of a rider like OG's career
Contradicting himself: Before the 2004 tour, he tell Mcewen he cannot win, that everyone is saying Petacchi is the best in the world and the fastest. EXCEPT, on Toyota World Sport, Tomalaris has mentioned Mcewen being the best sprinter in the world for 3 years since his stellar 2002 season.
Jingoistic best, always going on about our world domination in cycling.
Never mentions our lack of depth in the classics or GC, the categories that really matter. *Personal opinion, Robbie Mac is a legend and my favourite rider , just trying to be impartial.
Something needs to be done to unseat this fool from our July coverage. Dave Culbert is a brilliant presenter for a former athlete, and a brilliant presenter full stop. He caters to the layman, and the racer. He knows his stuff, like a racer. Plus the credibilty of being on the podium of a world athletics championship. He is my man.
A TOOL
He has been to 10 tours and still has not learnt the nuances and intricacies.
case in point: O'Grady has got in one more breakaway (read:yet another) and not won.The break splintered because, ofcourse, no one wished to ride a fast man to the finish. Now O'Grady whinges and whines and curses the other riders in the break when they cross the line into the marshalling area. They exchange words. Now Tomalaris jumps in with bromides and platitudes and proves the sycophant that he is.
He asks questions to the effect of, "is that in the spirit of cycling, not chasing, not doing a pull" note, tomalaris would not use the term pull for cycling
that is strictly a nocturnal leisure activity.Instead of asking OG "did you have the legs" "why did not you make the first move" "why did not you force selection" "why did you expect them to ride you to the finish" "did you expect the break just to stay together for a group sprint"... proper journo's questions. Probing OG's tactics and his road smarts. Assessing his legs on their merit on the day, Tomalaris reduces the 2 minute piece to pandering to Ogrady and feeding his ego.
Alternate case: The only time he has made a "hard-hitting" question, is when he asked a question regarding OG's age in another interview before the tour. When OG had turned 30, did Toma expect his career to slide, has he any knowledge of the most fruitful periods of a rider like OG's career
Contradicting himself: Before the 2004 tour, he tell Mcewen he cannot win, that everyone is saying Petacchi is the best in the world and the fastest. EXCEPT, on Toyota World Sport, Tomalaris has mentioned Mcewen being the best sprinter in the world for 3 years since his stellar 2002 season.
Jingoistic best, always going on about our world domination in cycling.
Never mentions our lack of depth in the classics or GC, the categories that really matter. *Personal opinion, Robbie Mac is a legend and my favourite rider
, just trying to be impartial.Something needs to be done to unseat this fool from our July coverage. Dave Culbert is a brilliant presenter for a former athlete, and a brilliant presenter full stop. He caters to the layman, and the racer. He knows his stuff, like a racer. Plus the credibilty of being on the podium of a world athletics championship. He is my man.
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01-09-06 | 12:23 AM
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What are you exactly trying to say Thunder?
01-09-06 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by thunder
.tomilaris??
I tape the show and fast-forward through ALL his 'tops & tails' so I don't have to hear ONE word from him.
SURELY they could get someone else.
Not only is his 'interest' in cycling questionable, he is a complete fkn STIFF; a total Mike Moore.
He used to do radio crosses to Hookesy and Gerard Healy on 3aw, and every time they tried to lighten the mood with a little gag, Tomilaris would either not pick up on it, or he was too much of a fkn Captain Serious/dead-head to indulge them
Originally Posted by thunder
bromides
01-09-06 | 12:25 AM
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thunder, did you give us a list of your preferred beers?
01-09-06 | 12:27 AM
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Thunder needs a drink after that rant. Good rant though.
01-09-06 | 12:27 AM
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I hear you and feel for you 531
I have it on good mail, they mock him around the SBS office. The only question remains, why does SBS mock us by sending him on a fully paid up junket when he has no clue.
I have it on good mail, they mock him around the SBS office. The only question remains, why does SBS mock us by sending him on a fully paid up junket when he has no clue.
01-09-06 | 12:30 AM
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In fact, I'm gunna start a poll on the other "Aussie forum"
https://www.cyclingforums.com/showthr...45#post2497345
https://www.cyclingforums.com/showthr...45#post2497345
01-09-06 | 12:32 AM
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Phil 'er um' Anderson! No way.
01-09-06 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by thunder
I hear you and feel for you 531 I have it on good mail, they mock him around the SBS office. The only question remains, why does SBS mock us by sending him on a fully paid up junket when he has no clue.
I have it on good mail, they mock him around the SBS office. The only question remains, why does SBS mock us by sending him on a fully paid up junket when he has no clue.Oh yeah, I forgot my main gripe with him: he pronounces the fancy fkn accents of the 'fancy' Southern/Western European names!!!! I fkn hate that.
He says "Me-airks", for 'Mercks'. Why can't he just fkn say "Merks" like the rest of us?He pronounces the 'sexy' suothern Euro names (French, Italian, Spanish, etc) with an accent, but I bet he wouldn't put on and Indian or Chinese accent for representatives of those countries, and he doesn't talk like the Kieser when he reads out the T-Mobile squad, nor does he put on an American accent tosay "Lance Armstrong", or an English accent for "Paul Sherwin"
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01-09-06 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by classic1
Phil 'er um' Anderson! No way.
yeah, he's no Peter Roebuck, but I'd rather his honesty and creditbility than Tomilaris' insincere "Brooke Vandenbergisms"
01-09-06 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by thunder
I have it on good mail they mock him at SBS.
Do they call him Mike Moore?
01-09-06 | 12:55 AM
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did anyone see Cycling Central last year for the previous Johnny Warren ride. He had to get off his bike and push it up the hill. Credit to the producer for using that footage. That footage alone should prevent him from coverting the tour.
531, Les and Orsati just have a bit of a laugh at him, you were right when you said humour just passes through and over him, he just does not have any sense of humour. Literally, no sense of humour, not bad not prudish. They call that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome
Well, technically they don't, but he is a fool anyway you analyse it.
531, Les and Orsati just have a bit of a laugh at him, you were right when you said humour just passes through and over him, he just does not have any sense of humour. Literally, no sense of humour, not bad not prudish. They call that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome
Well, technically they don't, but he is a fool anyway you analyse it.
01-09-06 | 04:06 AM
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hee hee. Grouse
Tomilaris has as much charisma as Clinton Grybas.
Orsati's also pretty rich with the fancy Euro accents, but I like him; he seems to have a bit of wit about him
Tomilaris has as much charisma as Clinton Grybas.
Orsati's also pretty rich with the fancy Euro accents, but I like him; he seems to have a bit of wit about him
01-09-06 | 05:08 AM
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Orsati is also a conniving prick, trying to, well the entire SBS news team, remove Farina. even if Farina was not doing the job, they campaigned... anyway cycling...
01-09-06 | 09:19 AM
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ahhh Orsati, i lost all respect for the supposed cred he brings to SBS when i saw him buying homebrand Bi Lo cheese on special.
Maybe what cycling coverage in Aus needs is some good ol fashioned Flemish male chauvinism. Offensive and ill timed yet still very funny in an uncomfortable way.
Maybe what cycling coverage in Aus needs is some good ol fashioned Flemish male chauvinism. Offensive and ill timed yet still very funny in an uncomfortable way.
01-09-06 | 09:23 AM
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Well then, i guess it's true that the government broadcasters pay crap
01-09-06 | 02:05 PM
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has anyone seen this thread on Nick Gates
Nick Gates@dailypelotonforums.com seems he has quite a fanbase
Nick Gates@dailypelotonforums.com seems he has quite a fanbase
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01-09-06 | 02:52 PM
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So, when I'm away, you guys talk about cycling. Am I the bad influence?
01-09-06 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by thunder
what does everyone think of Tomalaris, personally I think he is a
A TOOL
He has been to 10 tours and still has not learnt the nuances and intricacies.
case in point: O'Grady has got in one more breakaway (read:yet another) and not won.The break splintered because, ofcourse, no one wished to ride a fast man to the finish. Now O'Grady whinges and whines and curses the other riders in the break when they cross the line into the marshalling area. They exchange words. Now Tomalaris jumps in with bromides and platitudes and proves the sycophant that he is.
He asks questions to the effect of, "is that in the spirit of cycling, not chasing, not doing a pull" note, tomalaris would not use the term pull for cycling that is strictly a nocturnal leisure activity.
Instead of asking OG "did you have the legs" "why did not you make the first move" "why did not you force selection" "why did you expect them to ride you to the finish" "did you expect the break just to stay together for a group sprint"... proper journo's questions. Probing OG's tactics and his road smarts. Assessing his legs on their merit on the day, Tomalaris reduces the 2 minute piece to pandering to Ogrady and feeding his ego.
Alternate case: The only time he has made a "hard-hitting" question, is when he asked a question regarding OG's age in another interview before the tour. When OG had turned 30, did Toma expect his career to slide, has he any knowledge of the most fruitful periods of a rider like OG's career
Contradicting himself: Before the 2004 tour, he tell Mcewen he cannot win, that everyone is saying Petacchi is the best in the world and the fastest. EXCEPT, on Toyota World Sport, Tomalaris has mentioned Mcewen being the best sprinter in the world for 3 years since his stellar 2002 season.
Jingoistic best, always going on about our world domination in cycling.
Never mentions our lack of depth in the classics or GC, the categories that really matter. *Personal opinion, Robbie Mac is a legend and my favourite rider , just trying to be impartial.
Something needs to be done to unseat this fool from our July coverage. Dave Culbert is a brilliant presenter for a former athlete, and a brilliant presenter full stop. He caters to the layman, and the racer. He knows his stuff, like a racer. Plus the credibilty of being on the podium of a world athletics championship. He is my man.
A TOOL
He has been to 10 tours and still has not learnt the nuances and intricacies.
case in point: O'Grady has got in one more breakaway (read:yet another) and not won.The break splintered because, ofcourse, no one wished to ride a fast man to the finish. Now O'Grady whinges and whines and curses the other riders in the break when they cross the line into the marshalling area. They exchange words. Now Tomalaris jumps in with bromides and platitudes and proves the sycophant that he is.
He asks questions to the effect of, "is that in the spirit of cycling, not chasing, not doing a pull" note, tomalaris would not use the term pull for cycling
that is strictly a nocturnal leisure activity.Instead of asking OG "did you have the legs" "why did not you make the first move" "why did not you force selection" "why did you expect them to ride you to the finish" "did you expect the break just to stay together for a group sprint"... proper journo's questions. Probing OG's tactics and his road smarts. Assessing his legs on their merit on the day, Tomalaris reduces the 2 minute piece to pandering to Ogrady and feeding his ego.
Alternate case: The only time he has made a "hard-hitting" question, is when he asked a question regarding OG's age in another interview before the tour. When OG had turned 30, did Toma expect his career to slide, has he any knowledge of the most fruitful periods of a rider like OG's career
Contradicting himself: Before the 2004 tour, he tell Mcewen he cannot win, that everyone is saying Petacchi is the best in the world and the fastest. EXCEPT, on Toyota World Sport, Tomalaris has mentioned Mcewen being the best sprinter in the world for 3 years since his stellar 2002 season.
Jingoistic best, always going on about our world domination in cycling.
Never mentions our lack of depth in the classics or GC, the categories that really matter. *Personal opinion, Robbie Mac is a legend and my favourite rider
, just trying to be impartial.Something needs to be done to unseat this fool from our July coverage. Dave Culbert is a brilliant presenter for a former athlete, and a brilliant presenter full stop. He caters to the layman, and the racer. He knows his stuff, like a racer. Plus the credibilty of being on the podium of a world athletics championship. He is my man.
+1
I e-mailed SBS offering to do his job for free a cupla years ago as a joke coz his knowledge of the sport and it's participants was so bad it was embarassing.
no response.
01-09-06 | 03:57 PM
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SA Road Champs......good form guide pre-nationals?
Elite men - 140km
1 Russel Van Hout (Columbia Selle Italia) 3.27.54
2 Josh Collingwood (Regiostrom Senges)
3 Steve Cunningham (Savings & Loans Credit Union)
4 Bernard Sulzberger (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
5 Wes Sulzberger (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
6 Simon Pearson (Norwood CC)
7 Matt Goss (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
8 Josh Wilson (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
9 Will Dickeson (Savings & Loans Credit Union)
10 Nick Wood (Savings & Loans Credit Union)
11 Tom Middleton (Norwood CC)
12 Luke Roberts (CSC)
13 Russell Gill (Team O’Grady)
14 Jarrod Harmann (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
Elite men - 140km
1 Russel Van Hout (Columbia Selle Italia) 3.27.54
2 Josh Collingwood (Regiostrom Senges)
3 Steve Cunningham (Savings & Loans Credit Union)
4 Bernard Sulzberger (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
5 Wes Sulzberger (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
6 Simon Pearson (Norwood CC)
7 Matt Goss (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
8 Josh Wilson (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
9 Will Dickeson (Savings & Loans Credit Union)
10 Nick Wood (Savings & Loans Credit Union)
11 Tom Middleton (Norwood CC)
12 Luke Roberts (CSC)
13 Russell Gill (Team O’Grady)
14 Jarrod Harmann (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
01-09-06 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ed073
SA Road Champs......good form guide pre-nationals?
Elite men - 140km
1 Russel Van Hout (Columbia Selle Italia) 3.27.54
2 Josh Collingwood (Regiostrom Senges)
3 Steve Cunningham (Savings & Loans Credit Union)
4 Bernard Sulzberger (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
5 Wes Sulzberger (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
6 Simon Pearson (Norwood CC)
7 Matt Goss (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
8 Josh Wilson (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
9 Will Dickeson (Savings & Loans Credit Union)
10 Nick Wood (Savings & Loans Credit Union)
11 Tom Middleton (Norwood CC)
12 Luke Roberts (CSC)
13 Russell Gill (Team O’Grady)
14 Jarrod Harmann (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
Elite men - 140km
1 Russel Van Hout (Columbia Selle Italia) 3.27.54
2 Josh Collingwood (Regiostrom Senges)
3 Steve Cunningham (Savings & Loans Credit Union)
4 Bernard Sulzberger (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
5 Wes Sulzberger (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
6 Simon Pearson (Norwood CC)
7 Matt Goss (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
8 Josh Wilson (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
9 Will Dickeson (Savings & Loans Credit Union)
10 Nick Wood (Savings & Loans Credit Union)
11 Tom Middleton (Norwood CC)
12 Luke Roberts (CSC)
13 Russell Gill (Team O’Grady)
14 Jarrod Harmann (TIS-Cyclingnews.com)
01-09-06 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by climbo
seems TIS-Cyclingnews.com had everyone up in the mix but couldn't crack it against Russ.
Take out darren Young, and the average age of the TIS is 16 and a 1/2. Mountains of talent down there...