Affliction
06-07-26 | 05:15 PM
#4526
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From: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Also Steve Gaad and Anthony Jackson. Might be saying hold my beer.
https://youtu.be/umadnuNU6_w?si=lNmjgmGCKxsbxfmS
https://youtu.be/umadnuNU6_w?si=lNmjgmGCKxsbxfmS
Last edited by big john; 06-07-26 at 05:42 PM.
06-07-26 | 05:43 PM
#4527
Regular
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From: Yucatán. México
Bikes: 2022 Gt Amalanche Comp, 1989 Centurion Ironman frankenbike, 1987 Schwann Prelude town bike.
06-07-26 | 05:44 PM
#4528
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From: Yucatán. México
Bikes: 2022 Gt Amalanche Comp, 1989 Centurion Ironman frankenbike, 1987 Schwann Prelude town bike.
Let's be sure he does ok before we celebrate.
One of my former patients and fellow cyclist had an "event" kinda like this about 15 years ago. He survived but his brain was NEVER the same and he did not have a full recovery. He lived for another year in rehab/nursing home as a shadow of his former self before passing away from an infection. My hope is the guy from today has a good recovery but we won't know for a few days.
One of my former patients and fellow cyclist had an "event" kinda like this about 15 years ago. He survived but his brain was NEVER the same and he did not have a full recovery. He lived for another year in rehab/nursing home as a shadow of his former self before passing away from an infection. My hope is the guy from today has a good recovery but we won't know for a few days.
06-07-26 | 06:38 PM
#4529
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
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From: SF Bay Area
Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace
06-07-26 | 06:42 PM
#4530
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From: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
06-07-26 | 07:04 PM
#4531
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
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From: SF Bay Area
Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace
06-07-26 | 08:14 PM
#4532
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I wish I could thank the EMT who helped save my life a few years ago. Sometimes I wonder if I could obtain the incident report in a effort to learn his name.
06-07-26 | 08:26 PM
#4534
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On today's ride, about 45 minutes into the ride, we saw a cyclist who turned out to be one of my group's riders riding the course in reverse to meet us, yelling "get up there, they need a doctor!"
About 300 feet beyond, there were two cyclists on the side of the road. One was down, on his back, getting CPR from the other. I ran up and verified they had called 911, and asked if the guy doing CPR was trained in it. He said no. I suggested I could take over. We did hands-only CPR (which is now recommended) and waited for the ambulance to come. It took seemingly FOREVER (we were on a back road and not exactly in the boonies, but not in town). After about 20 minutes, I was getting quite tired so another friend took over. A few minutes later the ambulance FINALLY came. The guy had no pulse and was doing what is called agonal breathing, which is a brainstem reflex.
I looked up the guy's name via google and found out he works for Vanguard and another cycling friend (who was NOT on the ride) knows him.
I called the ED and asked if the guy made it, they told me he was alive and in the ICU. I hope he does ok.
My other friends were great, they waited patiently and we resumed the ride. It was a sobering reminder about how lucky we all are, and how tomorrow is never guaranteed.
About 300 feet beyond, there were two cyclists on the side of the road. One was down, on his back, getting CPR from the other. I ran up and verified they had called 911, and asked if the guy doing CPR was trained in it. He said no. I suggested I could take over. We did hands-only CPR (which is now recommended) and waited for the ambulance to come. It took seemingly FOREVER (we were on a back road and not exactly in the boonies, but not in town). After about 20 minutes, I was getting quite tired so another friend took over. A few minutes later the ambulance FINALLY came. The guy had no pulse and was doing what is called agonal breathing, which is a brainstem reflex.
I looked up the guy's name via google and found out he works for Vanguard and another cycling friend (who was NOT on the ride) knows him.
I called the ED and asked if the guy made it, they told me he was alive and in the ICU. I hope he does ok.
My other friends were great, they waited patiently and we resumed the ride. It was a sobering reminder about how lucky we all are, and how tomorrow is never guaranteed.
06-07-26 | 10:08 PM
#4536
The space coyote lied.
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From: dusk 'til dawn.
Bikes: everywhere
Who's ready for full suspension Peugeot MTBs? (not sure if they're coming to the USA yet, but expected to hit the shelved in Europe late this year or early 2027.
06-07-26 | 10:11 PM
#4537
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06-07-26 | 10:58 PM
#4539
climber has-been
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From: Palo Alto, CA
Bikes: Scott Addict RC Pro & R1, Felt Z1
06-08-26 | 03:33 AM
#4540
Should Be More Popular
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From: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
06-08-26 | 04:30 AM
#4541
Zoom zoom zoom zoom bonk
Joined: Sep 2006
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From: New Zealand
Bikes: Giant Defy, Trek 1.7c, BMC GF02, Trek Marlin 6, Scott Sub 35, Kona Rove, Trek Verve+2
06-08-26 | 06:49 AM
#4542
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From: Central Illinois
Bikes: Trek Domane+x2, Trek Emonda
Our forecast is for scattered showers most of the week. In these cases, I prep everything to ride and watch for an opening to ride. 12-15 miles is better than nothing.
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06-08-26 | 07:26 AM
#4543
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From: NW Metro Atl.
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I broke the glass pot for my 11 year old coffee maker today. Replacement will be made perhaps today. I buy the cheapest I can find since I use my pourover or French press as often as I can. Now that I'm retired I've got all the time i need.
The old one was 24.99 USD and i might get the equivalent for under 30.00 USD. I'm very utilitarian for most purchases. Brand means little to me. YMMV
The old one was 24.99 USD and i might get the equivalent for under 30.00 USD. I'm very utilitarian for most purchases. Brand means little to me. YMMV
06-08-26 | 07:58 AM
#4544
Mostly Harmless
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From: Norfolk, VA
Bikes: Have two wheels
06-08-26 | 08:01 AM
#4545
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From: Yucatán. México
Bikes: 2022 Gt Amalanche Comp, 1989 Centurion Ironman frankenbike, 1987 Schwann Prelude town bike.
06-08-26 | 08:36 AM
#4547
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From: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
I don't know why you brought that up. I'm sure he stopped to help at the scene because he thought he could help, and not because of some interpretation of an "oath".
Doctors in the US are not legally obligated to jump in when a person is having a medical emergency. In fact, we've seen cases where they have and then faced lawsuits.
The AMA does expect doctors to help in such situations, but it is a code of conduct and not a legal issue.
Besides, even if his oath said he had to do it, the person benefitting from his actions would still owe (at least) a huge debt of gratitude. Just because you are outside of a typical clinical situation doesn't mean you are deserving of free medical care.
Doctors in the US are not legally obligated to jump in when a person is having a medical emergency. In fact, we've seen cases where they have and then faced lawsuits.
The AMA does expect doctors to help in such situations, but it is a code of conduct and not a legal issue.
Besides, even if his oath said he had to do it, the person benefitting from his actions would still owe (at least) a huge debt of gratitude. Just because you are outside of a typical clinical situation doesn't mean you are deserving of free medical care.
Last edited by big john; 06-08-26 at 08:40 AM.
06-08-26 | 09:00 AM
#4548
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I don't know why you brought that up. I'm sure he stopped to help at the scene because he thought he could help, and not because of some interpretation of an "oath".
Doctors in the US are not legally obligated to jump in when a person is having a medical emergency. In fact, we've seen cases where they have and then faced lawsuits.
The AMA does expect doctors to help in such situations, but it is a code of conduct and not a legal issue.
Besides, even if his oath said he had to do it, the person benefitting from his actions would still owe (at least) a huge debt of gratitude. Just because you are outside of a typical clinical situation doesn't mean you are deserving of free medical care.
Doctors in the US are not legally obligated to jump in when a person is having a medical emergency. In fact, we've seen cases where they have and then faced lawsuits.
The AMA does expect doctors to help in such situations, but it is a code of conduct and not a legal issue.
Besides, even if his oath said he had to do it, the person benefitting from his actions would still owe (at least) a huge debt of gratitude. Just because you are outside of a typical clinical situation doesn't mean you are deserving of free medical care.
06-08-26 | 09:17 AM
#4550
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From: Central Illinois
Bikes: Trek Domane+x2, Trek Emonda
Snuck a 24 mile ride in. Woohoo! Winning at sky watching for rain clouds!
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