The 1200/1200 Plan
#26
I saw a show on cable about the world eating champion - that Japanese guy. He's only 175 lbs. He was at a restaraunt for a "training meal". He downed 28 lbs of food in less than an hour.
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#28
Ah, the eternal debate... Yes, you burn a higher % of calories from fat, but you burn more total calories, from both fat and glycogen, if you ride shorter distances at higher intensities, and boost your base metabloic rate more. This is what my Dr. and most exercise physiologists I've asked/read say.
Originally Posted by HillMut
I believe you burn the most fat if you ride long distances at a slower pace.
#29
Originally Posted by HillMut
by daily diet I mean, what do you usually eat in the morning, at lunch and for dinner, what do you grab for a snack??
I believe you burn the most fat if you ride long distances at a slower pace.
I believe you burn the most fat if you ride long distances at a slower pace.
#30
This morning I had a small bowl of cereal and half a Clif bar before riding. I only rode 2 hrs because of the heat. I had about 6 oz. chocolate milk and the other half of the Clif bar for recovery. Later I had 1/2 banana and another 6 oz. milk. For dinner I had a high-qulaity burrito and some chips/salsa (not many). I'm planning on having a salad later to stave off the pangs.
Originally Posted by HillMut
by daily diet I mean, what do you usually eat in the morning, at lunch and for dinner, what do you grab for a snack??
I believe you burn the most fat if you ride long distances at a slower pace.
I believe you burn the most fat if you ride long distances at a slower pace.
#31
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Hey! Give this a shot, it is basically a 100% for sure thing as it boosts your metabolism. Before breakfast (this is the key) go for a 30 minute brisk walk or 30 minute light - moderate jog atleast 4 times a week. You pick the days you go. You should definately mix things up a bit. As great as the bike is, try some other exercises off the bike. You could even work in some weight training. Doesn't have to be anything extreme but a couple reps of curls, squats, etc. and that'll also help you boost your metabolism real nice. And of course, watching your diet. Here's a lil bit of what I do...
Stretch
30 min light - moderate jog in the morning (11am or whenever I get up in the afternoon) and then I strech again and have some breakfast. So Good Vanilla or Fat Free with some Vector Cereal and maybe an Apple or Banana.
Rest or Take a 30-45 minute nap.
Stretch
Go for a nice ride, nothign too hard just something to get the legs moving nice. So maybe 1hr or more of riding.
Stretch
Later in the night I'll do 60 sit ups, 60 push ups, 30 supermans and if it's a weight training night 3 reps of 20 for curls with 20lb weight and 30 dips in between reps.
Stretch
I know this isn't very detailed to read right now but my head hurts and I'm feelin' like crap. I hate being sick. Anyways, it was just a little sample of what other things you can try working into your daily routines.
Stretch
30 min light - moderate jog in the morning (11am or whenever I get up in the afternoon) and then I strech again and have some breakfast. So Good Vanilla or Fat Free with some Vector Cereal and maybe an Apple or Banana.
Rest or Take a 30-45 minute nap.
Stretch
Go for a nice ride, nothign too hard just something to get the legs moving nice. So maybe 1hr or more of riding.
Stretch
Later in the night I'll do 60 sit ups, 60 push ups, 30 supermans and if it's a weight training night 3 reps of 20 for curls with 20lb weight and 30 dips in between reps.
Stretch
I know this isn't very detailed to read right now but my head hurts and I'm feelin' like crap. I hate being sick. Anyways, it was just a little sample of what other things you can try working into your daily routines.
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Oh yeah, definately eat more smaller things throughout the day instead of say, 3fat meals. Breakfast, small snack, Lunch, small snack, Dinner, small snack. And try to not go to bed on a full stomach. Drink a good amount of water throughout the day also. And mainly, try to cut down on how much sugar you are taking into your body.
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Originally Posted by Ostuni
uh_doi!
and i know its heresy around here, but phase out most starches, especially the 'white' ones...
potatoes are sin... (spelled that with an 'e'? can never remember... makes me sorry for dan quayle...) a potato(e?) is like a big sack of sugar....
and fructose... and sugary fruits.... none of them.....
is BEER an issue? if so, that goes too..... and it goes without saying that non-diet soft drinks are verboten....
and reduce portion sizes on whatever's left...
enjoy!
and i know its heresy around here, but phase out most starches, especially the 'white' ones...
potatoes are sin... (spelled that with an 'e'? can never remember... makes me sorry for dan quayle...) a potato(e?) is like a big sack of sugar....
and fructose... and sugary fruits.... none of them.....
is BEER an issue? if so, that goes too..... and it goes without saying that non-diet soft drinks are verboten....
and reduce portion sizes on whatever's left...
enjoy!
You just described the South Beach Diet...... And yes it works! 30 lbs in 3.5 months, never looked back.
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#34
Originally Posted by Granny
I'm currently riding 5 days/week, totalling anywhere from 17 - 23 hours/week. Everyone says I'm doing too much.
You need to track everything using a calculator like fitday.com (it's free) and shoot for 500-1000 calorie daily deficit. And you'll probably go to bed slightly hungry every night.
--Steve
#35
Originally Posted by Granny
I think the real key for me (I have suck-ass genes) is to cut out the junk food.
step 1. Don't ever buy or eat chips.
step 2. Don't buy chips in bulk thinking you are getting a 4 weeks supply.
step 3. Eat good sized portions of good food, because if you starve yourself at mealtime, you will eat through your 3 month supply of chips and ice cream.
#36
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This diet will cause you to lose fat, muscle, brains, toenails, hair.... alright, a bit of an exageration, but you will literally be starving and you WILL lose muscle.
#37
I should have said - I'm doing 45 mins of upper body gym work 3x a week.
How about riding rollers for 30 min before breakfast?
How about riding rollers for 30 min before breakfast?
Originally Posted by Pro
Hey! Give this a shot, it is basically a 100% for sure thing as it boosts your metabolism. Before breakfast (this is the key) go for a 30 minute brisk walk or 30 minute light - moderate jog atleast 4 times a week. You pick the days you go. You should definately mix things up a bit. As great as the bike is, try some other exercises off the bike. You could even work in some weight training.
#38
3500 calories = 1lb... you have to work off 3500 calories to lose 1lb of weight... BUT... you also need to have enough working through you to be able to function at the same time..
this means finding a delicate balance so you are slowly losing body fat, but not suffering for it with fatigue and starvation... when you exercise a lot, and don't eat the right foods to compliment it, your body THINKS it's starving and STORES BODY FAT... Nutrition is extremely important for those trying to lose weight while cycling...
so yes... stop eating junk food... all of it... now... Actually, if you substitute junk food with fruit, within 30 days your taste buds will forget about what the crap food tastes like and you'll start craving fruit... it works well... the tough part is just stopping the bad habits..
good luck! check out the nutrition forum too, there's some good info in there...
this means finding a delicate balance so you are slowly losing body fat, but not suffering for it with fatigue and starvation... when you exercise a lot, and don't eat the right foods to compliment it, your body THINKS it's starving and STORES BODY FAT... Nutrition is extremely important for those trying to lose weight while cycling...
so yes... stop eating junk food... all of it... now... Actually, if you substitute junk food with fruit, within 30 days your taste buds will forget about what the crap food tastes like and you'll start craving fruit... it works well... the tough part is just stopping the bad habits..
good luck! check out the nutrition forum too, there's some good info in there...
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Originally Posted by Granny
I should have said - I'm doing 45 mins of upper body gym work 3x a week.
How about riding rollers for 30 min before breakfast?
How about riding rollers for 30 min before breakfast?
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Originally Posted by Granny
Granny's tired of being fat.
Solution: 1200 Cals/day + 1200 Miles/month
Am I going to die?
Solution: 1200 Cals/day + 1200 Miles/month
Am I going to die?
Eat the same ride more.
You try to do 1200 calories a day and do 1200 miles a month you will get head aches out the wazoo. Its not healthy yeh your gona drop pounds like a mad man/woman but your gona burn muscle you wont gaint muscle etc.
#41
Originally Posted by Pro
...Before breakfast (this is the key) go for a 30 minute brisk walk or 30 minute light - moderate jog atleast 4 times a week. You pick the days you go. You should definately mix things up a bit. As great as the bike is, try some other exercises off the bike....
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Originally Posted by Eatadonut
Uh.. I'm not sure that anyone noticed the part where this post was supposed to be humorous. At least, I hope it was. 1200 calories a day shouldn't make you into a monster in 2 days.
If I were to start eating 1200 calories per day, by the second day you can be pretty sure there would be some huge effects. As it is, I can feel myself physically weakening if I go too many hours without food at my current intake level. This never used to happen, but if I go too many hours without food, I can feel a very noticeable decrease in my overall energy and strength.
So I disagree.
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#43
Originally Posted by Ostuni
that's a darn good idea... solves some issues for me... have to be at work too early to get a ride in weekday mornings... takes too long to get geared up, etc... but can easily put on shorts and running shoes and do a 30-min run.... and agree on the cross-training philosophy...
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#44
Originally Posted by grahny
so yes... stop eating junk food... all of it... now... Actually, if you substitute junk food with fruit, within 30 days your taste buds will forget about what the crap food tastes like and you'll start craving fruit... it works well... the tough part is just stopping the bad habits..
Cutout the alcohol and fried foods too.
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Originally Posted by voltman
1200 calories is great for a 100 pound woman.
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Originally Posted by Granny
I think the real key for me (I have suck-ass genes) is to cut out the junk food.
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Originally Posted by Granny
This morning I had a small bowl of cereal and half a Clif bar before riding. I only rode 2 hrs because of the heat. I had about 6 oz. chocolate milk and the other half of the Clif bar for recovery. Later I had 1/2 banana and another 6 oz. milk. For dinner I had a high-qulaity burrito and some chips/salsa (not many). I'm planning on having a salad later to stave off the pangs.
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Originally Posted by zimbo
I burned an extra 10000 calories from cycling last week and didn't lose a pound (and wasn't trying to, btw). Which means, of course, that unless you're keeping track of how much you burn and how much you eat it's hard to diet sensibly.
I would recommend no more than a 1000 calorie per day deficit, preferrably only 500 (i.e. 1 pound per week). It's way better for you in the long run to lose weight slowly.
--Steve
I would recommend no more than a 1000 calorie per day deficit, preferrably only 500 (i.e. 1 pound per week). It's way better for you in the long run to lose weight slowly.
--Steve
#49
Originally Posted by grahny
...so yes... stop eating junk food... all of it... now... Actually, if you substitute junk food with fruit, within 30 days your taste buds will forget about what the crap food tastes like and you'll start craving fruit... it works well... the tough part is just stopping the bad habits.....
think my source is a harvard doctor who wrote a highly-regarded nutrition book that kind of comes in somewhere between atkins and south beach... forget the author's name, but sure made sense and rang true when i read it....
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#50
Originally Posted by Ostuni
but be careful which fruit... if what i read/hear is true, melons and berries are good, but oranges, grapes, peaches, and, of all things, APPLES can be 'bad' in that they have a lot of natural sugars which kick up your blood sugar, go to fat, etc.?
At least it has some vitamins and minerals.
That's the problem I see with a lot of nutritional studies......imho, they're always finding fault with most foods we eat and then they reverse their decisions a few years down the road.
Just eat sensibly.
BTW, potatoes are good for you, they're loaded with potassium, vitamin c and iron and have complex carbs.....excellent for recovery food.





