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2010 Specialized Ellez Comp.
Love the carbon seat stays and forks, this is a much improved ride from my last, and it's faster. Also threw in some new pedals and shoe's.
Love the carbon seat stays and forks, this is a much improved ride from my last, and it's faster. Also threw in some new pedals and shoe's.
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After trying out riding on the road with my commuter (2008 Sirrus) for the past 2 years I finally decided to get myself a proper road bike and start doing some more distance and speed. Picked up a 2010 Roubaix Compact last weekend. So far I love it.......did nearly 100 miles this week on it and I love how fast it is and especially the way I have many more body position options so stuff doesn't go numb so quickly. I had never ridden a road bike in my life so I'm getting used to it but all signs point to sweetness. Did my first group ride this week too at a 16.5mph pace which was pushing my current limits for a 25 mile ride but I hope to improve steadily since I usually ride 6-7 days a week anyways. Gonna be more road biking and less trails for a while.
1. Yes the reflectors stay.....I ride to work sometimes at dawn and/or dusk...especially when the time change comes
2. No clip ins for me.....again, I commute a lot....gotta be able to wear real shoes. Not to mention I've had a few too many slow speed tipovers from not being able to unclip in the past.....they're just not for me.
1. Yes the reflectors stay.....I ride to work sometimes at dawn and/or dusk...especially when the time change comes
2. No clip ins for me.....again, I commute a lot....gotta be able to wear real shoes. Not to mention I've had a few too many slow speed tipovers from not being able to unclip in the past.....they're just not for me.
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Word is is that he tried to shift from something like the 13 toothed cog to the 12 (while on the small chainring obviously) and the combination of the cross-chain, chain slack, shift, and a bump on the road caused his chain to to drop.
07-26-10, 02:43 AM
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What "tooth" did he miss?
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07-26-10, 07:50 AM
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He was out of the saddle, mashing uphill, and shifting at the same time. He threw his chain. If you watch the video posted by Lennard Zinn on velonews, you can plainly see that he was shifting both the front and back--at the same time--when it happened. This is commonly known as poor technique. Also, the Specialized crank on his bike is known to be a quality product, and wasn't the reason for the chain drop. Poor technique made his chain drop. Even poorer technique while putting the chain back in place is what then caused him to lose time to Contador.
What "tooth" did he miss?
What "tooth" did he miss?
07-26-10, 11:01 AM
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My two babies plus one on the way...
Colnago Scandium and Wilier Izoard
Colnago Scandium and Wilier Izoard
07-26-10, 12:25 PM
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He was out of the saddle, mashing uphill, and shifting at the same time. He threw his chain. If you watch the video posted by Lennard Zinn on velonews, you can plainly see that he was shifting both the front and back--at the same time--when it happened. This is commonly known as poor technique. Also, the Specialized crank on his bike is known to be a quality product, and wasn't the reason for the chain drop. Poor technique made his chain drop. Even poorer technique while putting the chain back in place is what then caused him to lose time to Contador.
What "tooth" did he miss?
What "tooth" did he miss?
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edit...Again, I encourage you to check out Zinn's article on velonews.com. They slow down the video, and show his hands. He was shifting from the small ring to the big ring when he attacked, and threw his chain off to the outside, leaving it hanging on the pedal. Either he pushed too hard (likely) while torquing the frame (as he was mashing, out of the saddle), or the FD was poorly adjusted, allowing the chain to go off (less likely, IMO). Either way, pedalling was not going to put the chain back on, hence the "poor technique" comment I made earlier. That he was unable to get the chain back on, even when he was off the bike and doing it by hand (which he should have done in the first place), again shows poor technique. Or nerves. Or drunkenness. You pick.
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Well, there you go. I didn't know he was running Sram chain rings, I saw the Specialized crank and assumed Specialized rings. I still don't get the "tooth" bit.
07-26-10, 01:26 PM
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What I saw was him try to pedal the chain back on (yeah, that'll work), get off and try to put it on by hand (unsuccessfully), get frustrated, look around, briefly assume the universal WTF pose, try again to put it on, get help to put it on, get a push, then ride away. Meanwhile, Contador floored it, and smoked him all the way down the mountain.
edit...Again, I encourage you to check out Zinn's article on velonews.com. They slow down the video, and show his hands. He was shifting from the small ring to the big ring when he attacked, and threw his chain off to the outside, leaving it hanging on the pedal. Either he pushed too hard (likely) while torquing the frame (as he was mashing, out of the saddle), or the FD was poorly adjusted, allowing the chain to go off (less likely, IMO). Either way, pedalling was not going to put the chain back on, hence the "poor technique" comment I made earlier. That he was unable to get the chain back on, even when he was off the bike and doing it by hand (which he should have done in the first place), again shows poor technique. Or nerves. Or drunkenness. You pick.
edit...Again, I encourage you to check out Zinn's article on velonews.com. They slow down the video, and show his hands. He was shifting from the small ring to the big ring when he attacked, and threw his chain off to the outside, leaving it hanging on the pedal. Either he pushed too hard (likely) while torquing the frame (as he was mashing, out of the saddle), or the FD was poorly adjusted, allowing the chain to go off (less likely, IMO). Either way, pedalling was not going to put the chain back on, hence the "poor technique" comment I made earlier. That he was unable to get the chain back on, even when he was off the bike and doing it by hand (which he should have done in the first place), again shows poor technique. Or nerves. Or drunkenness. You pick.
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Didn't work for him. Never worked for me. All I've ever seen that do is jam the chain, making it more difficult to put back on. Regardless, it had nothing to do with the choice of equipment, or a mix of different brands, which was what I was responding to initially. And, in the end, it didn't effect the final outcome of the Tour. IMO.
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Didn't work for him. Never worked for me. All I've ever seen that do is jam the chain, making it more difficult to put back on. Regardless, it had nothing to do with the choice of equipment, or a mix of different brands, which was what I was responding to initially. And, in the end, it didn't effect the final outcome of the Tour. IMO.
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The only time I haven't been able to pedal my chain back on was the time it fell to the crank arm side. If it falls to the bottom bracket side I've pedaled it back on every time without fail. Additionaly, he lost 39 seconds to the chain incident. He lost the tour by 39 seconds. How did it not affect the outcome?
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What I saw was him try to pedal the chain back on (yeah, that'll work), get off and try to put it on by hand (unsuccessfully), get frustrated, look around, briefly assume the universal WTF pose, try again to put it on, get help to put it on, get a push, then ride away. Meanwhile, Contador floored it, and smoked him all the way down the mountain.
edit...Again, I encourage you to check out Zinn's article on velonews.com. They slow down the video, and show his hands. He was shifting from the small ring to the big ring when he attacked, and threw his chain off to the outside, leaving it hanging on the pedal. Either he pushed too hard (likely) while torquing the frame (as he was mashing, out of the saddle), or the FD was poorly adjusted, allowing the chain to go off (less likely, IMO). Either way, pedalling was not going to put the chain back on, hence the "poor technique" comment I made earlier. That he was unable to get the chain back on, even when he was off the bike and doing it by hand (which he should have done in the first place), again shows poor technique. Or nerves. Or drunkenness. You pick.
edit...Again, I encourage you to check out Zinn's article on velonews.com. They slow down the video, and show his hands. He was shifting from the small ring to the big ring when he attacked, and threw his chain off to the outside, leaving it hanging on the pedal. Either he pushed too hard (likely) while torquing the frame (as he was mashing, out of the saddle), or the FD was poorly adjusted, allowing the chain to go off (less likely, IMO). Either way, pedalling was not going to put the chain back on, hence the "poor technique" comment I made earlier. That he was unable to get the chain back on, even when he was off the bike and doing it by hand (which he should have done in the first place), again shows poor technique. Or nerves. Or drunkenness. You pick.
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