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Capo72 12-04-17 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by MauiKai (Post 20030686)
Coming from a Specialized Tarmac and tired of the off-the-shelf bikes here in Japan, I bought a Litespeed T1 frame locally, Campagnolo Chorus groupset, and Campagnolo Zonda rims laced with 25s Schwalbe Ones from Wiggle, and slapped them together with dimensions similar to my Tarmac as a starting point for fine tuning the fit. The bike felt awesome and smooth. Not great pics since one was done during the ride, but there is another one indoors.


Hot from the top tube down. Beyond not hot from the top tube up. Really, I guess if there is any not hot involved, then the overall has to be not hot. Maybe crop out the saddle and bars!

indyfabz 12-04-17 08:42 AM

*smh*

MauiKai 12-04-17 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by jitteringjr (Post 20031386)
How are you calculating this? Honestly to me it looks like you made one bad adjustment which caused you to make another bad adjustment to compensate for the first bad adjustment. Which in turn made you make another bad adjustment to compensate ad nauseam.

Can I ask if there is a specific reason for the aerobars? Are you training for a tri? Time trail event you are entered in? Or are they for comfort while riding or do you just want to ride faster? I did a tri years ago and I bought a set specifically for the race, but then took them off after and ended up selling them right after the race. Found out I love running and cycling (already knew that), but getting kicked in the head and essentially open fist punched repeatedly while swimming wasn't my cup of tea.

I like riding with the aero bars since it is much more comfortable and aerodynamic and I just like to ride fast. On the hoods isnt bad, but it is quite a bit slower. I bat about competing in triathlons, but I really suck at the swimming part which keeps me from doing them.

As for the calculations, I started with my Specialized and tweaked those because it was already close. The bar setup and seat height were already okay but I dropped the bars 1cm lower. The main thing was that I noticed I was always sliding up towards the end of the seat, especially when running out of gas. That is why I moved the seat forward. It wasn't a "oh, I already bought this part so I have to buy this part to compensate for the incorrect choice" kinda thing.

If I chopped the fork tube and lower my seat and changed the angle of it I would run into crank length problems, my leg would be too bent at the bottom and I'd feel like I was riding a kids tricycle.
No one has even seen me on the bike, knows my height, inseam, crank length...etc.

Jeezus. Let me go to the doctors so they can start sawing on my bones and changing not only my muscle insertion point bit the muscle origin as well so I can be comfy on a slammed bike. :injured:

:lol:

MauiKai 12-04-17 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 20031455)
*smh*

Right?

indyfabz 12-04-17 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by MauiKai (Post 20031471)
Right?

Right. That thing is the antithesis of hot. The fact that you like it is irrelevant to whether it's hot or not. Same with your fit issues. That's not what this thread is about. It's about aesthetics.

noodle soup 12-04-17 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 20031529)
Right. That thing is the antithesis of hot.

It's hot, but so are dumpster fires.

MauiKai 12-04-17 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 20031529)
Right. That thing is the antithesis of hot. The fact that you like it is irrelevant to whether it's hot or not. Same with your fit issues. That's not what this thread is about. It's about aesthetics.

lol @ "antithesis of hot". You getting worked up?

If you don't like it then that is fine, but I did mention aesthetics earlier. Cant make everyone happy all the time.

It may not be pretty to you, but whether I like my bike or not is THE most important thing since my name is on the ownership papers. What you think really is of little significance since my goal was to build a fast, comfortable bike that I can cover some ground quickly, not win a beauty contest. It does exactly what I want, so me and my comfortable "fit issues are" perfectly fine with that regardless what you guys (who dont even know my height, inseam or any other vitals) think.

"OMG! Did you see his bars? I would never in a million years ride that!" :twitchy::eek::50:

Puhleeze. Really? You guys must be a hoot at parties.

TenSpeedV2 12-04-17 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by MauiKai (Post 20031705)
lol @ "antithesis of hot". You getting worked up?

If you don't like it then that is fine, but I did mention aesthetics earlier. Cant make everyone happy all the time.

It may not be pretty to you, but whether I like my bike or not is THE most important thing since my name is on the ownership papers. What you think really is of little significance since my goal was to build a fast, comfortable bike that I can cover some ground quickly, not win a beauty contest. It does exactly what I want, so me and my comfortable "fit issues are" perfectly fine with that regardless what you guys (who dont even know my height, inseam or any other vitals) think.

"OMG! Did you see his bars? I would never in a million years ride that!" :twitchy::eek::50:

Puhleeze. Really? You guys must be a hoot at parties.

This thread isn't about whose name is on the ownership papers. You posted a picture of your bike, and you don't like the criticism. It is what it is. That bike is pretty horrific to put it nicely. This is a thread where you post a picture of your bike, and we judge it based on the aesthetics of the bike, which yours has none. Take it as a kind of "roast me" thread on another popular social site that starts with an R.

bianchi10 12-04-17 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by MauiKai (Post 20030686)
Coming from a Specialized Tarmac and tired of the off-the-shelf bikes here in Japan, I bought a Litespeed T1 frame locally, Campagnolo Chorus groupset, and Campagnolo Zonda rims laced with 25s Schwalbe Ones from Wiggle, and slapped them together with dimensions similar to my Tarmac as a starting point for fine tuning the fit. The bike felt awesome and smooth. Not great pics since one was done during the ride, but there is another one indoors.

Sweet baby jeebus, no. :foo:

indyfabz 12-04-17 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by MauiKai (Post 20031705)
It may not be pretty to you, but whether I like my bike or not is THE most important thing since my name is on the ownership papers. What you think really is of little significance since my goal was to build a fast, comfortable bike that I can cover some ground quickly, not win a beauty contest.


The above is proof that you have totally failed to grasp the point of this thread. It is all about hotness and whether others think your offering is hot. Your temperament strongly suggests that you should start a thread entitled "Fast, Comfortable Bike That Fits Me Well and Can Cover Some Ground Quickly or Not". After all, not hot bikes need love, too. But make no mistake about it; this forum is not the place for that love.


O.k. Now I see from your post a few above that you are simply trolling. Lame.

Moose 12-04-17 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by MauiKai (Post 20031705)

"OMG! Did you see his bars? I would never in a million years ride that!" :twitchy::eek::50:

Puhleeze. Really? You guys must be a hoot at parties.

Now you’re practically trolling here.

There’s plenty of threads to discuss fit issues and the merits of your configuration. This thread is not that place, please stop posting here, you’ve said your peace.

bianchi10 12-04-17 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by MauiKai (Post 20031705)

If you don't like it then that is fine, but I did mention aesthetics earlier. Cant make everyone happy all the time.

It may not be pretty to you, but whether I like my bike or not is THE most important thing since my name is on the ownership papers. What you think really is of little significance since my goal was to build a fast, comfortable bike that I can cover some ground quickly, not win a beauty contest. It does exactly what I want, so me and my comfortable "fit issues are" perfectly fine with that regardless what you guys (who dont even know my height, inseam or any other vitals) think.


Puhleeze. Really? You guys must be a hoot at parties.

I'll take a deep breath and try to explain since you seem to be clinching your fists and ready to take swings lol. not pointing fingers at you here, just explaining. THIS thread IS in fact all about it being a beauty contest. The Hot r Not specifically refers to how sexy a bike LOOKS or doesn't look. If this was posted in the "What bike do you ride", you would not be getting as many curled eyebrows. There are general "Rules" to display your bike which can help result in a proper presentation. This is essentially an online car show. So presentation is important. Those of us that take a lot of pride in our bikes consider them to be like art. So when someone doesn't exactly like what is painted on the canvas, it can sting a little bit. I get it. Its kind of the risk of putting your bike up on display here. Please note that a HOT doesn't equate to $$$ spent. I've seen some $800 entry level bikes that were set up super hot while I've also seen $12k Colnago's that I wouldn't take a second look at unless I was to point and make fun.

Try not to take offense.

noodle soup 12-04-17 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 20031724)


O.k. Now I see from your post a few above that you are simply trolling. Lame.

I wonder if this guy knows TimTak :foo:

MauiKai 12-04-17 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 20031714)
This thread isn't about whose name is on the ownership papers. You posted a picture of your bike, and you don't like the criticism. It is what it is. That bike is pretty horrific to put it nicely. This is a thread where you post a picture of your bike, and we judge it based on the aesthetics of the bike, which yours has none. Take it as a kind of "roast me" thread on another popular social site that starts with an R.

Dont know that site. And if it is as negative as the people on this site then I have no interest in finding out what it is.

Really? Horrific? Has no aesthetics? I dont know what criteria you guys are using as a basis for your opinion, but are the comments here indicative of the way you guys talk about someone else's pride and joy?

"Hey buddy, your bike looks like ****e and you should be decapitated."

It must suck to live with that much negativity. You guys need some help.

MauiKai 12-04-17 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by bianchi10 (Post 20031750)
I'll take a deep breath and try to explain since you seem to be clinching your fists and ready to take swings lol. not pointing fingers at you here, just explaining. THIS thread IS in fact all about it being a beauty contest. The Hot r Not specifically refers to how sexy a bike LOOKS or doesn't look. If this was posted in the "What bike do you ride", you would not be getting as many curled eyebrows. There are general "Rules" to display your bike which can help result in a proper presentation. This is essentially an online car show. So presentation is important. Those of us that take a lot of pride in our bikes consider them to be like art. So when someone doesn't exactly like what is painted on the canvas, it can sting a little bit. I get it. Its kind of the risk of putting your bike up on display here. Please note that a HOT doesn't equate the $$$ spent. I've seen some $800 entry level bikes that were set up super hot while I've also seen $12k Colnago's that I wouldn't take a second look at unless I was to point and make fun.

Try not to take offense.

I can handle the criticism of the aesthetics. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I know it.
What I dont get is the verbiage. Maybe they just aren't intelligent enough or have enough manners to offer an opinion without trying to be intentionally butt hurt about something as simple as a bike.

TenSpeedV2 12-04-17 10:34 AM

Again, it isn't about offering help or having manners. This is a cut throat no holds barred thread. You need to go back and take a look through this thread and see how things happen.

noodle soup 12-04-17 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by MauiKai (Post 20031772)
I can handle the criticism of the aesthetics. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I know it.
What I dont get is the verbiage. Maybe they just aren't intelligent enough or have enough manners to offer an opinion without trying to be intentionally butt hurt about something as simple as a bike.

the only person that sounds butt hurt here, is you.

bianchi10 12-04-17 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by MauiKai (Post 20031772)
I can handle the criticism of the aesthetics. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I know it.
What I dont get is the verbiage. Maybe they just aren't intelligent enough or have enough manners to offer an opinion without trying to be intentionally butt hurt about something as simple as a bike.

Sorry brotha, I think the problem here is that you are the one that is butt hurt and making this a bigger deal than it needs to be. Your bike may check all the boxes for your purpose, but it isn't pretty to look at. Leave it at that mate.

nycphotography 12-04-17 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20031757)
I wonder if this guy knows TimTak :foo:

sock puppet / troll?




(just kidding just kidding! but it is a funny thought)

noodle soup 12-04-17 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by MauiKai (Post 20031796)
Your momma is butt hurt

"Your Momma" comments.:foo:

Are you 12 years old?

MauiKai 12-04-17 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by bianchi10 (Post 20031787)
Sorry brotha, I think the problem here is that you are the one that is butt hurt and making this a bigger deal than it needs to be. Your bike may check all the boxes for your purpose, but it isn't pretty to look at. Leave it at that mate.

I'm good braddah. I am actually laughing while writing these cuz I'm bored AF, but seeing all the people getting so worked up over a bike is a treat. My bike doesn't match the white male hegemony standard of beauty. I get it.

That's fine. I'll still race ya ;)

MauiKai 12-04-17 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 20031804)
"Your Momma" comments.:foo:

Are you 12 years old?

It was a lot funnier than your lame dumpster joke.

MauiKai 12-04-17 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by nycphotography (Post 20031800)
sock puppet / troll?




(just kidding just kidding! but it is a funny thought)

I dont know TimTam or whatever his name is. Just bored :thumb:

MauiKai 12-04-17 10:44 AM

I'm out peeps, enjoy your foosball

noodle soup 12-04-17 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by MauiKai (Post 20031806)
It was a lot funnier than your lame dumpster joke.

I wasn't joking.

It's a nice bike, but that saddle tilt is absolutely ridiculous(and aerobars always look stupid on road bikes).

BTW, why no water bottle cages?


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