Originally Posted by Crappymonkey (Post 12652123)

That's pretty cool of them. I think ours are out for some easy ticket money. I just saw on a local site that the Toronto police are doing a zero tolerance bike blitz next week.

This is what it said...

54 and 55 Division will be out full force giving out tickets.
They will most likely be monitoring Bloor/Danforth

- No Bell or horn Offense = $20.00 Fine + $5.00 Court Cost + a $10.00 Victim Fine Surcharge = $35.00 Total Amount Payable

- Improper Bicycle Lighting Offense = $85.00 Fine + $5.00 Court Cost + a $20.00 Victim Fine Surcharge = $110.00 Total Amount Payable

- Red Light/Fail to Stop Offense = $150.00 Fine + $5.00 Court Cost + a $25.00 Victim Fine Surcharge = $180.00 (+3 points off Drivers License)

- Disobey Stop Sign – Fail to Stop = $85.00 Fine + $5.00 Court Cost + a $20.00 Victim Fine Surcharge = $110.00 Total Amount Payable

- Failure to Wear Proper Helmet = $60.00 Fine + $5.00 Court Cost + a $20.00 Victim Fine Surcharge = $85.00 Total Amount Payable

- Bicycle Fail to Turn Out to Right when Overtaken = $85.00 Fine + $5.00 Court Cost + a $20.00 Victim Fine Surcharge = $110.00 Total Amount Payable

- Cyclist Riding in or along pedestrian Crosswalk = $85.00 Fine + $5.00 Court Cost + a $20.00 Victim Fine Surcharge = $110.00 Total Amount Payable

- Cyclist – Fail to Stop to Identify Self = $85.00 Fine + $5.00 Court Cost + a $20.00 Victim Fine Surcharge = $110.00 Total Amount Payable

- Ride two(2) on a Bicycle = $85.00 Fine + $5.00 Court Cost + a $20.00 Victim Fine Surcharge = $110.00 Total Amount Payable

Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 12652175)

What a bunch of Nazis. Have the people of Canada ever thought about revolting? I'll be damned if I had to put a light, and a bell on my bike. Also what the hell is a victim fine surcharge? These seem to all be victimless crimes.

Originally Posted by X-LinkedRider (Post 12652273)

Does this mean tandems are illegal in Toronto?

Originally Posted by UCIMBZ (Post 12641853)

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 12652345)

Man, you love callin' people Nazis. These infractions are all similar to what NY state has in place and I'm sure that Ohio has something similar on the books, too (enforcement may be a different matter). It makes sense if you're treating bicycles as vehicles.

Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 12654644)

I call people what I see is fit. I am fan of freedom. I don't need the government to tell me I need a light on my bike. When it gets dark, I quit riding, or I put lights on. It's common sense. A bell is just stupid. I am on a freaking bike. I can yell, and it's just as effective.

Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 12654644)

I call people what I see is fit.

Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 12654644)

It's common sense.

Originally Posted by FreddyV (Post 12655159)

Just get a nice drive train. Stop pedalling and people will know you're coming.

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Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 12655309)

Wow - most would have blown that off with, "eh, hyperbole," but you feel the need to defend your statement. That says a lot. If you think that the regulation of safety measures is, in any way, shape, or form, on par with the Nazi party policies, you're shamefully ignorant.


Many laws cover what a lot of people would assume to be common sense; common sense isn't quite common enough. Oh, and not that I'm a fan of bells (I don't have one), but yelling is NOT as effective.

Originally Posted by Quel (Post 12656046)

Keep the crazy ranting to some other thread.

Originally Posted by Quel (Post 12656046)

Keep the crazy ranting to some other thread.

Originally Posted by andrew9223 (Post 12654440)

Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 12656054)

Are you attempting to encroach on my personal freedom to post what I want?

Originally Posted by ravenmore (Post 12656415)

people people - hot bikes = hot. bickering = not.

Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 12655325)

Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 12656029)

not to mention heavy

Originally Posted by andrew9223 (Post 12654440)

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 12655309)

Wow - most would have blown that off with, "eh, hyperbole," but you feel the need to defend your statement. That says a lot. If you think that the regulation of safety measures is, in any way, shape, or form, on par with the Nazi party policies, you're shamefully ignorant.


Many laws cover what a lot of people would assume to be common sense; common sense isn't quite common enough. Oh, and not that I'm a fan of bells (I don't have one), but yelling is NOT as effective.

Originally Posted by mazdaspeed (Post 12656809)

SA you may have a point but it's beyond the scope and purpose of this thread ;)

Originally Posted by Hulley (Post 12656615)

I'm with you..........but I agree with SA!

Originally Posted by climber7 (Post 12656839)

:rolleyes:

yeah, it would probably push you over 12 pounds or something. i can't even imagine. how could anyone ride like that? :lol: