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Soloist Assassin 02-23-12 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by mazdaspeed (Post 13888880)
Thanks for clarifying to everyone that you have no idea what you're talking about ;) There is much more to a bike than simply how much it weighs and REDWHITEBLACK everything.

Right, I have no idea what I am talking about. :rolleyes: I put a carbon fork on my old 80's Schwinn Traveler, and it was a huge improvement. The carbon fork wasn't much heavier, but it was a hundred times stiffer, and improved the handling exponentially. What matters to me most in a bike is weight, stiffness, and aerodynamics. Appearance, and "ride quality" are aspects that don't matter much to me. I use my bikes for racing, so that is my point of view. I suppose if I used it for commuting, or something than I would value other aspects more.

As for the "REDWHITEBLACK" statement. Personally I prefer as little paint as possible. That's what I like about that bike posted above. It just so happens that manufactures all seem to like that color combo a lot for some reason. It wouldn't bother me at all if manufactures started using a metallic blue like the Fizik tape, and saddles come in. Personally I love that color. Also don't forget, I have a Red, White, and Blue Trek. Granted it is in the process of becoming just raw clear coated carbon fiber.

Soloist Assassin 02-23-12 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by runningDoc (Post 13889036)

we're both weight weenies by nature - we both had the same thoughts about trying out a carbon fork.. its just in our nature to weigh weenie-fy in our minds.

have you tried riding good steel lately? a good steel frame is hard to explain - its alive and stiff but actually flexes and bends over very sharp bumps. this fork does the same thing. I've ridden 40+mph down bear mountain on both a carbon frame and this frame and the steel RB-1 frame and fork actually feels safer and you're in more control.

lets just say I'm a "born again believer" in steel.

My Schwinn is steel. Idk if I would consider it a good steel frame. Probably not. I have been riding it all winter, and I've noticed it really does soak up the bumps quite well. I found myself purposely hitting potholes with it, and it descends quite solidly. I've had it over 50mph before, and it handled predictably. I also attribute that to long chainstays, and touring geometry. As I mentioned earlier it has a carbon fork now. It is nice to train on, but the increased weight over my other bikes makes it not as desirable to ride in the spring/summer/fall, when I am riding, a lot more. Not to mention racing. The weight of your Bridgestone is quite admirable for a steel frame, and fork bike.

UCIMBZ 02-23-12 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by X-LinkedRider (Post 13889078)
Never really sure. I still have FINE TUNING to do on the Ders. and I will be cutting the steerer. I thought I was replacing the stem/handlebars but ended up not. Why do you ask? ;) (Probably will regret this question. Lol)

Just wanted to give you some love. But I'll wait.

mazdaspeed 02-23-12 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 13889108)
Right, I have no idea what I am talking about. :rolleyes: I put a carbon fork on my old 80's Schwinn Traveler, and it was a huge improvement. The carbon fork wasn't much heavier, but it was a hundred times stiffer, and improved the handling exponentially. What matters to me most in a bike is weight, stiffness, and aerodynamics. Appearance, and "ride quality" are aspects that don't matter much to me. I use my bikes for racing, so that is my point of view. I suppose if I used it for commuting, or something than I would value other aspects more.

As for the "REDWHITEBLACK" statement. Personally I prefer as little paint as possible. That's what I like about that bike posted above. It just so happens that manufactures all seem to like that color combo a lot for some reason. It wouldn't bother me at all if manufactures started using a metallic blue like the Fizik tape, and saddles come in. Personally I love that color. Also don't forget, I have a Red, White, and Blue Trek. Granted it is in the process of becoming just raw clear coated carbon fiber.

lol, your schwinn traveler is not comparable to a real steel racing frame. Don't assume they're anything like each other just because they're made from steel. If all you're interested in is modern racing bikes there's nothing wrong with that but your viewpoint seems to be extremely narrow. It's not just you but it's lots of people on this forum that think that way.

PhatBoyG 02-23-12 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by dstrong (Post 13889085)
I still can't believe it says "manocoque" on the frame.

Yeah, subtle but funny. Depending upon how you interpret it.

zatopek 02-23-12 03:16 PM

rjones28,
Ah, memories, like the corners of my mind. I once rode that same RB-1 frame in yellow (55 cm) with Shimano 600 gruppo, back in the day. It was a delightful machine. Thanks for posting yours and allowing me a pleasant reminiscence. I don't think my Bridgestone was ever as sharp as yours. Nicely done.

Jeepnut22 02-23-12 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by GiantDefyGuy (Post 13888657)
That Spooky frame with the big Walmart welds is NOT.

Your ignorance on welding humors me. Do a search, you'll find a whole thread on that topic...

I <3 Robots 02-23-12 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by runningDoc (Post 13889036)
I guess the only legacy parts are the headset, frame and fork... campy stuff thats shiny and silver would look awesome.. but so would dura ace 7700...

DA7700 didn't have 11 speeds. :D

I mentioned it since most bikes of that time ran shiny bits.

sced 02-23-12 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Jeepnut22 (Post 13889389)
Your ignorance on welding humors me. Do a search, you'll find a whole thread on that topic...

Looks to me like they just didn't want to spend the change to fill and grind em, and have to sell it for more.

adriano 02-23-12 04:21 PM

mentioning putting athena on that bridgestone, i tried to look for a picture of franks yellow bridgestone with athena. google told me thats his actual frame you bought. cray. http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...tone-RB-1-1993

triumph.1 02-23-12 04:22 PM

Must I remind everyone that according to whoooosh the only three people on this forum that know anything about what is hot or not are UCIMBZ, 2ndgen and soloist assissin. No one else needs to question or argue about anything within this thread anymore. :lol:

rjones28 02-23-12 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by zatopek (Post 13889296)
rjones28,
Ah, memories, like the corners of my mind. I once rode that same RB-1 frame in yellow (55 cm) with Shimano 600 gruppo, back in the day. It was a delightful machine. Thanks for posting yours and allowing me a pleasant reminiscence. I don't think my Bridgestone was ever as sharp as yours. Nicely done.

I wish.

That RB-1 belongs to runningDoc.

WHOOOSSHHH... 02-23-12 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by triumph.1 (Post 13889573)
Must I remind everyone that according to whoooosh the only three people on this forum that know anything about what is hot or not are UCIMBZ, 2ndgen and soloist assissin. No one else needs to question or argue about anything within this thread anymore. :lol:

Anyone listening to anything I say, is a dunce, however there opinions are at least thought out....sorry you didn't make the list, but if this is an example of your input you can understand my reasoning. Actually maybe it's best that you don't.....Post your bike and lets have a look see....;) PS..my 135hp harley would eat your TRIUMPFFF for lunch...:roflmao2:NOBODY messes with WHOOOSHIE on his Harley ladies!! I don't need your vote this bad boy is hot!!!

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...eThunder-1.jpg

triumph.1 02-23-12 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH... (Post 13889697)
Anyone listening to anything I say, is a dunce, however there opinions are at least thought out....sorry you didn't make the list, but if this is an example of your input you can understand my reasoning. Actually maybe it's best that you don't.....Post your bike and lets have a look see....;) PS..my 135hp harley would eat your TRIUMPFFF for lunch...:roflmao2:NOBODY messes with WHOOOSHIE on his Harley ladies!!

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...eThunder-1.jpg

I am now embarrassed for you.

RJM 02-23-12 05:05 PM

Visor, sneakers, jean shorts, sleeveless shirt all make this picture a total NOT. The bike - if it has got to be a harley and it aint a wide glide = not.

mazdaspeed 02-23-12 05:13 PM

Well the man obviously has taste ;)

triumph.1 02-23-12 05:22 PM

and his opinions are at least thought out.............

Soloist Assassin 02-23-12 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by mazdaspeed (Post 13889183)
lol, your schwinn traveler is not comparable to a real steel racing frame. Don't assume they're anything like each other just because they're made from steel. If all you're interested in is modern racing bikes there's nothing wrong with that but your viewpoint seems to be extremely narrow. It's not just you but it's lots of people on this forum that think that way.

It's just the intended use, I use my bikes for. Don't think I don't appreciate steel frames I do. I really like the look of your Colnago, and a lot of the other steel bikes out there. There was an English Cycles bike on the Fairwheel bikes forum with an ISP, and internal Di2, with a charging port integrated in the seatube, internal batteries, and Di2 adjustment integrated into the stem. I don't even like Di2, but I really like that bike. I never thought they were going to be real similar. It is simply the extent of my knowledge of steel frames. I also replaced the steel fork on my aluminum cx bike with a carbon one. It was an improvement as well.

X-LinkedRider 02-23-12 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by UCIMBZ (Post 13889142)
Just wanted to give you some love. But I'll wait.

Some Love from UCI on the Hot or Not thread. That is like getting your taxes done by the president. ;) I feel more than honored to have even been noticed.

UCIMBZ 02-23-12 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH... (Post 13889697)
Anyone listening to anything I say, is a dunce, however there opinions are at least thought out....sorry you didn't make the list, but if this is an example of your input you can understand my reasoning. Actually maybe it's best that you don't.....Post your bike and lets have a look see....;) PS..my 135hp harley would eat your TRIUMPFFF for lunch...:roflmao2:NOBODY messes with WHOOOSHIE on his Harley ladies!! I don't need your vote this bad boy is hot!!!

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...eThunder-1.jpg

Here. You can rate my hardtail.
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1078/5...7c2b099d_z.jpg

Steve90068 02-23-12 06:03 PM

jorts.....

WHOOOSSHHH... 02-23-12 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by RJM (Post 13889726)
Visor, sneakers, jean shorts, sleeveless shirt all make this picture a total NOT. The bike - if it has got to be a harley and it aint a wide glide = not.

WRONG...Although typical response for twiggy armed cyclist...:innocent:

WHOOOSSHHH... 02-23-12 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by UCIMBZ (Post 13889848)

I like bikes that aren't foo, foo or run on rice...HOT!

Jeepnut22 02-23-12 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by sced (Post 13889465)
Looks to me like they just didn't want to spend the change to fill and grind em, and have to sell it for more.

Or they appreciate the art and skill it takes to hand weld something. Try it and you'll understand...

Soloist Assassin 02-23-12 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH... (Post 13889995)
I like bikes that aren't foo, foo or run on rice...HOT!


What about bikes that run on pasta? If I ever buy a motorcycle, I only have one choice.

http://www.wallpaperweb.org/wallpape...stiglionic.jpg


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