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Psyclist 09-29-08 08:38 AM

I don't think there's any bike made today, where you couldn't pick up the brand name on it with even just a passing glance...they are all pretty obvious.

Aside from my old Fuji, which had sort of an understated logo, I haven't seen too many bikes that you couldn't name them within 10 seconds or so.
I think that was the point of the OP...I don't think it had anything to do with bike "vanity".

txvintage 09-29-08 08:43 AM

Somehow we have managed to lose sight of the question that begs to be asked.

Having forsaken all things holy and turned Tribikeual, how did the good Doc actually do with his new stealth no name bike in the float/bike/puke thingy?

NomadVW 09-29-08 08:56 AM

Well, this is cool. I was looking for something to do during lunch and this took care of that problem!

I also probably couldn't have told you Cervélo was made in Canada either. Don't suppose who makes it if it gets the reviews and results that their bikes get.

chipcom 09-29-08 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by txvintage (Post 7567080)
Somehow we have managed to lose sight of the question that begs to be asked.

Having forsaken all things holy and turned Tribikeual, how did the good Doc actually do with his new stealth no name bike in the float/bike/puke thingy?

I don't care...I could forgive him being an Army doggie boy, but now that he's a tri weenie it is just too much for even an old fat fred like me to bear.

Ironic, I quit smoking and it's Pete that has kilt me.

DrPete 09-29-08 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 7566372)
Write your congresspeople and lobby for better pay for the military...then Doc Pete can be less cheap and more smug. :p

Now there's a move I can get behind. :D

Flatballer 09-29-08 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by txvintage (Post 7567080)
Somehow we have managed to lose sight of the question that begs to be asked.

Having forsaken all things holy and turned Tribikeual, how did the good Doc actually do with his new stealth no name bike in the float/bike/puke thingy?

:roflmao2:

I actually LOL'd. Best description of a tri ever.

yak 09-29-08 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by markwebb (Post 7559561)
I know you !! You're That Guy with the big big pick-up truck. Newest model. Keeps it all shiny and polished. Never gets it dirty. You're That Guy with the big truck and the small....well, you know what's small. Compensating with the trophy bike. You're That Guy.

Hey, don't go dragging us pickup-drivin' folks into this. (or we'll run you over)

Durward_Kirby 09-29-08 10:31 AM

http://www.imeem.com/people/As6M-5/m...s_riding_fred/

In keeping with the spirit of this thread......

NoRacer 09-29-08 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by txvintage (Post 7567080)
Somehow we have managed to lose sight of the question that begs to be asked.

Having forsaken all things holy and turned Tribikeual, how did the good Doc actually do with his new stealth no name bike in the float/bike/puke thingy?

If it was the Cape Henlopen Tri, he didn't get to float probably due to dangerous rip currents. So it would've been a run/bike/run & puke thingy.

DrPete 09-29-08 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by NoRacer (Post 7567942)
If it was the Cape Henlopen Tri, he didn't get to float probably due to dangerous rip currents. So it would've been a run/bike/run & puke thingy.

And that's exactly what it was... The rip currents AND the 8-foot surf were kinda the factors...

Did kinda so-so. I'm a horrible runner, so you can imagine my joy at getting to do it twice. Kept it fairly easy on the bike in anticipation of more running, when really I should've turned it up on the bike knowing that my run would suck anyway. Took it way too easy but ended up with a 21.4mph average and picked off a ton of people on the road. So I made up a good amount of ground on the bike, but not as much as I could/should have. My result was pretty mediocre but I've only been back and training since July. Bottom line, though, I had a blast. I dare say it was more fun than a road bike race... :eek:

Flatballer 09-29-08 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 7568107)
I dare say it was more fun than a road bike race... :eek:

He's a witch! Burn Him!!

http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_pictur...lyGrail028.jpg

Campag4life 09-29-08 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 7564133)
Since you're back and on your self-superior trip again, you should probably brush up on the reading comprehension. As mentioned in the OP, he was clearly interested in it and asking questions. But that wasn't the point. You, however, chose to miss the point entirely and (completely erroneously) launch into how I was somehow "parading" my bike through the lobby (I leaned it against a wall as I checked in) and demanding attention.

So, just so I know for the future, if a hotel has one entrance and it's through the lobby, how do I get it to my room without "parading?" Should I cover the bike with a sheet next time?

Again, your posts in this thread say far more about you than me. Why do you have such a problem with someone who rides a nice carbon bike? Your feelings about it are so strong that you can take me, a complete stranger, and claim to have me all figured out because I ride one, then claim that bikes are meaningless to you.

Can't afford one? Feel like you don't deserve one? What is it? Clearly if it were that unimportant to you, you wouldn't go to all this trouble. Instead you take shots at me and are clearly rationalizing your insecurities or whatever about it as a lack of need. How "at peace" with yourself can you be if you're resorting to this?

I am curious why you had your bike in the lobby Doc? Most hotels I stay at when traveling on business do not allow road bikes in the lobby or hotel rooms. Did you find an exception to this rule? Did you keep your bike in your hotel room if staying over?

DrPete 09-29-08 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Campag4life (Post 7568170)
I am curious why you had your bike in the lobby Doc? Most hotels I stay at when traveling on business do not allow road bikes in the lobby or hotel rooms. Did you find an exception to this rule? Did you keep your bike in your hotel room if staying over?

The entrance to my room was right off the lobby with no other way of getting there. I never leave my bike in/on the car overnight and have always kept my bike in the room. Nobody's ever had a problem with it... Maybe I just stay in cheap enough hotels. :)

DrPete 09-29-08 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Flatballer (Post 7568150)
He's a witch! Burn Him!!

I'm nowhere near important enough-- I went from pack fodder in road racing to middle-of-the-pack in Du/Tri. I'm having a blast, though. The fact that I can look at my splits and at least set personal goals makes my mediocrity somehow more fun. :)

SKYLAB 09-29-08 11:11 AM

I've never had n issue taking a bike into a hotel room. Even some fairly nice ones.

Campag4life 09-29-08 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 7568199)
The entrance to my room was right off the lobby with no other way of getting there. I never leave my bike in/on the car overnight and have always kept my bike in the room. Nobody's ever had a problem with it... Maybe I just stay in cheap enough hotels. :)

I see. I was traveling a lot a couple of months ago and wanted to bring my roadbike but the hotel I was staying at would not allow me to keep my roadbike in my room....I believe partly due to liability of getting it stolen. The other thing is...if you do leave a $8-10K bike like your Cervelo in your room and you go out to eat...there is a chance it may not be there when you return. Agree with the in or on the car overnight..no good. Even leaving the bike on the car while dining at a restaurant out of sight can be a problem.

mrbubbles 09-29-08 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Campag4life (Post 7568170)
I am curious why you had your bike in the lobby Doc? Most hotels I stay at when traveling on business do not allow road bikes in the lobby or hotel rooms. Did you find an exception to this rule? Did you keep your bike in your hotel room if staying over?

Word-of-mouth, it's a bad idea to turn away potential customers, especially should it be known that you are the only hotel in town with vacancies because you don't accept clean bikes into your lobby.

Exception: when you are only one individual, the force isn't strong enough to convince them to allow you have bikes in the lobby.

Campag4life 09-29-08 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by SKYLAB (Post 7568213)
I've never had n issue taking a bike into a hotel room. Even some fairly nice ones.

I am going to have to look into it then as I will be traveling again next month. I am concerned about the bike being there or untouched as the cleaning crew comes through and I am off to meetings. I have thought maybe buying a bike travel case and keeping it in the trunk of my car maybe an option...but what a hassle to put the bike together for a ride. Maybe one of those dorky folding bikes :)...more Fred than the poor guy who didn't know what he was looking at behind the desk.

DrPete 09-29-08 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Campag4life (Post 7568227)
I see. I was traveling a lot a couple of months ago and wanted to bring my roadbike but the hotel I was staying at would not allow me to keep my roadbike in my room....I believe partly due to liability of getting it stolen. The other thing is...if you do leave a $8-10K bike like your Cervelo in your room and you go out to eat...there is a chance it may not be there when you return. Agree with the in or on the car overnight..no good. Even leaving the bike on the car while dining at a restaurant out of sight can be a problem.

$8-10K? Nowhere close. It actually came in about half that. I do get your point, though. Short of taking it with me to dinner, I think it's still safer than leaving it in a car unattended.

Campag4life 09-29-08 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 7568270)
$8-10K? Nowhere close. It actually came in about half that. I do get your point, though. Short of taking it with me to dinner, I think it's still safer than leaving it in a car unattended.

OK...less than that...but a stunning bike to the uninitiated and no doubt it looked like a spaceship to the guy behind the counter. Believe the definition of Fred is stretched though because he wasn't really a cyclist or even wannabee...but his name may have been Fred. :)

Durward_Kirby 09-29-08 11:27 AM

Here's a Fredish question: Does your 4500 dollar bike ride that much better than a cheaper bike? I like bling as much as the next guy but I am doomed to Fredishness due to my budget, my age, my overall lack of talent and so forth....

I really enjoy getting out on my Jamis and riding it... I'm afraid the pricetag of a much more expensive bike would dampen my enjoyment of the experience given the total Fredish package that I am.

I've come to embrace my inner Fred.

DrPete 09-29-08 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Campag4life (Post 7568320)
OK...less than that...but a stunning bike to the uninitiated and no doubt it looked like a spaceship to the guy behind the counter. Believe the definition of Fred is stretched though because he wasn't really a cyclist or even wannabee...but his name may have been Fred. :)

No, the guy asking the questions was another hotel customer in the lobby in a team kit.

DrPete 09-29-08 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Durward_Kirby (Post 7568340)
Here's a Fredish question: Does your 4500 dollar bike ride that much better than a cheaper bike? I like bling as much as the next guy but I am doomed to Fredishness due to my budget, my age, my overall lack of talent and so forth....

I really enjoy getting out on my Jamis and riding it... I'm afraid the pricetag of a much more expensive bike would dampen my enjoyment of the experience given the total Fredish package that I am.

I've come to embrace my inner Fred.

It's a blast to ride, but the biggest time savings/speed increase is from aero positioning. So yeah, the aero goodies make you fast, but it's not like riding a cheaper bike makes the ride any less fun. If buying a fancy bike doesn't float your boat, then have fun on what you're riding. Realistically my aero stuff saved me a few minutes on the bike, but I'm such a slow runner that the strong runners/weak riders (of which I learned there are MANY more than strong rider/weak runners) easily made up any aero benefit of my bike by running faster than me. So ultimately the reason for us mere mortals to buy and work on fancy bikes is because it's fun.

I enjoy all the aero stuff and working on my bikes--this is a completely different issue than my riding ability. There are plenty of people out there who love to act like there are rules written somewhere about how nice a bike you're "allowed" to ride based on your cycling ability, but the fact of the matter is that your riding ability has nothing to do with how much you're willing/able to spend on a bike.

So yeah, someone will consider me a Fred or a Poseur or whatever the hell else. This is usually followed by some diatribe about how it doesn't matter what bike you ride. As I've said before, if it really didn't matter to them they wouldn't get all up in arms about what bike I'm riding. But if they need that to come to terms with whatever is making them care so much about what I ride while I'm enjoying the hell out of my ride, then they can knock themselves out.

NoRacer 09-29-08 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 7568107)
And that's exactly what it was... The rip currents AND the 8-foot surf were kinda the factors...

Did kinda so-so. I'm a horrible runner, so you can imagine my joy at getting to do it twice. Kept it fairly easy on the bike in anticipation of more running, when really I should've turned it up on the bike knowing that my run would suck anyway. Took it way too easy but ended up with a 21.4mph average and picked off a ton of people on the road. So I made up a good amount of ground on the bike, but not as much as I could/should have. My result was pretty mediocre but I've only been back and training since July. Bottom line, though, I had a blast. I dare say it was more fun than a road bike race... :eek:

Tempting... I've been working on my run lately, but running on the roads kill me at this point. Hard to believe that I used to be able to run 26.2 miles under 4 hours on the road (about 4 years ago.) Recreational swimming is about all I've done, so that would be my biggest unknown variable.

Durward_Kirby 09-29-08 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 7568433)
It's a blast to ride, but the biggest time savings/speed increase is from aero positioning. So yeah, the aero goodies make you fast, but it's not like riding a cheaper bike makes the ride any less fun. If buying a fancy bike doesn't float your boat, then have fun on what you're riding. Realistically my aero stuff saved me a few minutes on the bike, but I'm such a slow runner that the strong runners/weak riders (of which I learned there are MANY more than strong rider/weak runners) easily made up any aero benefit of my bike by running faster than me. So ultimately the reason for us mere mortals to buy and work on fancy bikes is because it's fun.

I enjoy all the aero stuff and working on my bikes--this is a completely different issue than my riding ability. There are plenty of people out there who love to act like there are rules written somewhere about how nice a bike you're "allowed" to ride based on your cycling ability, but the fact of the matter is that your riding ability has nothing to do with how much you're willing/able to spend on a bike.

I suppose you're right. If I took all the money I've got tied up in bikes, I could have purchased one really, really nice bike or a car for that matter. My problem has always been that I tinker with them so much and mess with the set-up and nickle and dime myself to death on just one more seat, one more set of handlebars that I don't have the chunk of change that it would take to buy such a bike. I'm afraid that even if I did, I'd still be tweaking it and alway trying to find that "perfect" whatever it is that I'm messing with at the moment.


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