Article states that Lance asked if it was okay for him to shower while the credentials were being verified, and that the tester agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if each testing authority has their own rules on what is and isn't allowed between the time you are told "I'm here to test you" and you pee in the cup. Then theres the matter that Lance and crew questioned if this guy was authorized to do a test at all in the first place. Would Lance have hung around while the calls were being made if the tester said "No, you must stay here while this is getting sorted out."? Good question, I would imagine so considering he knows that any small violation would land him right where he is now anyways.

I'd also like to read the actual rule. does anyone have a link?

How could a twenty minute delay affect the contents of his blood, urine, or hair? Collecting all that is directly monitered. It's not like he went into another room and came back with the samples.

"Let's see, now where did I put those vials of blood and that cup of pee? Dude! Quick! Give me some of your hair!"


I wonder what Lance's vital fluids would be worth on ebay?

fify

Hey! Sheryl Crow might be sitting on a fortune!

My thinking as well.

Lance needs to go back to flossin hoes, and triathlons. He doped. But you only cheated if you get caught. He just needs to back off from waving the clean flag. The only reason "cancer" is the reason he is riding is because he can't win the tdf anymore, and he is like the reast of us cyclists in need of an excuse.

Because Americans are morons?

ftw.

I figured it out.

He went to the bathroom for twenty minutes, but he wasn't alone. He actually had all of his blood changed out with one of his associates who is clean. This associate will probably die soon from high hematocrit levels or something, but we won't hear about it.

He then had a hair transplant done with this same associate. Finally, he, umm, yeah, I can't even make something up that could make a urine sample clean in 20 minutes. Maybe he peed, so that when the tester asked for the sample, he didn't have any to give, then the guy got bored and left?

I think whether Pcad has followers is more interesting than whether lance was unfairly picked on to pee in a cup. He knows as most of the world does that he is under great suspicion for being a doper, especially in France.. None twisted his arm to make a come back.. What was he expecting, beautiful women showing up volunteering to hold it for him while he gave a sample ?

Oh what a tough life he has, lives in a beautiful section of the world has great looking girlfriends, has loads of cash, and now that hes in a comeback has to take drug tests more than most.

Whoooo doogie,
Let me get my hip boots on.
The gun smoke and horse **** is getting thick in here pardner.

I happen to like France. Maybe you narrow minded french-haters should stfu until you have been there for awhile (and I dont mean on a tour bus). When we were there we had a good time, met nice people, ate great food, saw places that had huge historical significance, had great places to walk, ate great food...repeat.

You were such a good neighbor the last few months now it,s back to the anti Yank rhetoric.
Brace yourself fancy pants,another load of merde catapulted across Lake Erie for you.

Oh and btw maybe Lance did use perf. enhancing drugs and was smart enough not to get caught, maybe not; just say'n

Im sure the French have their side of the story too.

I'll help.

Call in Chief Inspector Clouseau to review the tests.

How much trouble to pee in a cup when asked? they could have verified the credentials of the official in time, just don't let the guy run off with the samples without varification.

[QUOTE=gsteinb;8696793]... It's perhaps the most sub par group of human beings in existence.[/QUOTE

Except for BF Road Cycling members

Um, where's your proof?

So, a person should be able to go up to Lance, make him pee infront of them, then get verified. Half the guys on this forum would be in that line just to check out his junk.

Bingo! Lance should've known by now that when a tester shows up -- especially a French tester -- that he must do exactly what that person tells him to do. Any deviation from instructions could be construed and/or distorted in exactly the way it's being done right now.

He f'ed up and now he's going to pay for it -- the French are going to throw everything they can at him to keep him out of the TdF (which probably was their plan all along). The only person he has to blame is himself -- and maybe Johan for not making him stay put while they sorted out the tester's creds.

Jason

Define "in time", because 20 minutes seems to fall under a reasonable definition of in time.

Its a good thing I have enough Canadian friends to know most are not like you.

The rule is that you can't refuse the test (Google Kevin van Impe if you don't already know his story) and the tester must stay with you until he/she gets the sample. Landis talks about this in his book also, saying he would sometimes take the tester out for coffee or something until he hydrated enough to whizz.


Since Armstrong and the tester were in the same building and there was no risk of Armstrong's running away the tester can say he was with him and the rule was followed.