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Tulex 05-10-10 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 10790818)
you never know. they're european.

So what does that mean? Leg hair is female, none is roadie?

gsteinb 05-10-10 12:19 PM

pcad took the fun out of conflicting accident reports.

Tulex 05-10-10 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 10790829)
pcad took the fun out of conflicting accident reports.

Why, we still can't confirm a third guy down.

Tulex 05-10-10 12:25 PM

I mean, even when umd went down clipped in because "the cleat was stuck", we got pictures.

I think pCad was in front waving at squirrels, and got his iPod wire caught in his spokes.

gsteinb 05-10-10 12:27 PM

the report I have is some guy colliding with pcad and crashing in front of dr. bob. ironically the doc called me the day before to give me a pep talk and offer some healing words



OK, I guess it is time to discuss this morning's events. We had a crash on the
Nyack ride. Pete and some guy from the city collided when we were beginning the
climb up Middletown Rd. (Sorry Pete, I forgot your last name.) I was right
behind them and couldn't avoid impact. I flipped over the two guys on the road
and landed on my back. Needless to say an ambulance arrived with cops and
paramedics etc. Pete had pretty likely had a concussion along with some road
rash. He was convinced to take the ambulance ride I think to Valley H. I
waited with Paul and Jeannie until my wife arrived to take me to Englewood H. I
have at least one broken rib on the left. The xrays weren't that helpful
because I have some old fractures, but the way I feel, trust me, there is a
broken rib in there. I don't know what happened to the guy from the city.

On the brighter side, there was no head injury, no concussion, no road rash....
Even the bike was OK. However, it hurts. I am off the bike for a while. Too
bad as I was having a good season. But enough feeling sorry for myself. This
is a part of the sport. As I have told many of our friends, when we have an
injury it makes us take stock of things. We need to recommit, decide how
important this is that we are wiling to take the risks. And then it will be
time to refocus.

Anyhow, that's the story.

Happy mothers day.

Dr Bob


Tulex 05-10-10 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 10790866)
the report I have is some guy colliding with pcad and crashing in front of dr. bob. ironically the doc called me the day before to give me a pep talk and offer some healing words

Ok, so pCad is confusing getting run over with running over someone......
Part I can't figure out is if it's the header he took or just old age.

Velo Vol 05-10-10 12:32 PM

Colliding on a climb? That takes special skills.

patentcad 05-10-10 12:49 PM

I guess I'll never find out what made the guy in front of me hit the deck across my path. I'm guessing he touched wheels. It wasn't really an upgrade, it was the flat just before the upgrade. We were moving pretty fast. I'm being told it was a very violent crash.

The only thing I'm certain of is that bike on the ground in front of me with nowhere to go. I'll never forget that memory. That was a classic Eff Me Moment right there. Always knew it could happen in a race or fast ride situation, never knew what it was like, now I know. Surprising more than scary.

Hell, now they tell me I was screaming afterwards. I was out cold. I don't remember anything, just coming to calmly sitting on the curb talking to the paramedic with him telling me I had been asking the same questions for ten minutes. After that my memory is linear, before that, nothing before the crash itself.

Holly 05-10-10 01:04 PM

whoah pcad ... that's quite a little spill you took. Heal up fast!!

gsteinb 05-10-10 01:06 PM

Screaming, huh? Htfu. I just wanted to know that I could race the next day.

Tulex 05-10-10 01:07 PM

Ok pCad, the perfect time to do your best Indiana Jones and tell Holly where it hurts.

Tulex 05-10-10 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 10791047)
Screaming, huh? Htfu. I just wanted to know that I could race the next day.

Yeah, but you don't wear pink, do you?

I want to know what he was screaming and or asking. I wanna know if mommy was part of it.

gsteinb 05-10-10 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Tulex (Post 10791058)
Yeah, but you don't wear pink, do you?

I don't follow

KiddSisko 05-10-10 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 10787668)
I can get 1000 posts out of this stupid little incident too.





Watch me.

Conflicting crash reports, screaming, no memory for 10 minutes, crashing while climbing... I'd say your estimate for 1000 posts worth of hand wringing on this incident is assured.

Tulex 05-10-10 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 10791072)
I don't follow

Pink, girly, screaming....Just thought it fit together...

Velo Vol 05-10-10 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Imperturbable Ryuu Ichigo (Post 10791054)
this is why i have a helmet cam...

:lol:

Yes, Pcad. Let this be a lesson to you to keep your helmet camera recording whenever your bike is in motion.

gsteinb 05-10-10 01:19 PM

I'm the leader of the team that pcad is a co sponsor of. I promise you my team is better than your team.

Tulex 05-10-10 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 10791112)
I'm the leader of the team that pcad is a co sponsor of. I promise you my team is better than your team.

If I had a team it would be, especially if I was the leader.:roflmao2:

gsteinb 05-10-10 01:31 PM

I like pink. And crushing souls. The ONLY motivation I have to make a 2010 return from injury, instead of waiting until 2011, is making people cry about getting crushed by a guy who sat on the sidelines most of the season.

coasting 05-10-10 01:42 PM

so is the only reliable witness to this crash dr. bob? Ask him what pcad was screaming for 10 mins. My money is on "you'll see...you'll all see!"

gsteinb 05-10-10 01:56 PM

I could ring up half a dozen people right now if I cared. I don't . Myth is better reality in most cases; this one in particular.

coasting 05-10-10 01:59 PM

i reckon he was yelling "cervelo!" like "stella"


gsteinb 05-10-10 02:04 PM

when ever someone points out that our kits are pink I like to post this article by Mark Swartzendruber



At some point during or after the road race, my back got seriously bunged up. Maybe it was the flight I took after the tracks; maybe it was riding in the van for 9 bumpy miles with no cool down. I don’t know but Saturday afternoon, I was stooped at the waist and in some pain. I medicated myself with Naproxen and red wine. Gin may have been a better call but there was none in the house. I woke up Sunday a.m. and was walking like an old man in need of a walker. I shuffled down stairs at my sister-in-law Aggie’s home and tied to stretch.

“How do you feel this morning?”

“Like Hell. I need a trainer.”

“Like an athletic trainer?”

“No like what I hook my bike to. I have to see if I can sit on a bike and reach the handlebars.”

Aggie’s boyfriend Paul is a bike rider and he brought me a trainer within an hour. I hooked my bike up and you know what? It was painful and pathetic. The Lovely Kathy suggested I take about four more Aleve, lay on the floor and then she dug her elbows into the lumbar muscles.

The race would be about 3:00. It was 11:00 that I had my first back spasm. I decided that at noon, I would make the call whether or not to pull the plug. My 2 nephews, Kathy’s parents, Aggie and Paul’s 3 girls had made plans to see the race and hells bells, I didn’t want to appear to be a softie in front of them. Besides which, the airline had butt ***** me in exchange for flying my bike to New Jersey and I felt the need to at least make the effort to get my money’s worth out of that horrific exchange. Eventually, the heat, ice and elbow massage got me feeling decent enough to at least participate.

60 racers toed the line and as I surveyed the field I didn’t see but maybe two or three fatties. I saw guys with bulging biceps and tattoos and single digit body fat. I was concerned. The only guy I knew in the field was Chips Black all the way from San Luis Obispo. He arrived in a giant red pick up truck. He’s retired and lives with his wife Trish, apparently in that giant red truck and spends his time going to masters’ bike races all over the country.

I decided to see what exactly I was up against with this group, since tattoos and biceps don’t necessarily make a good bike racer. I attacked just after the second corner of the six corner course. The field strung out in pursuit and when I got caught I attacked again. At this point the pain in my legs and lungs was dwarfing the pain in my back so I continued. Every freakin’ time a group got off, I was there and then the group was brought back by these guys in Blue and Pink. The team was Global Locate and all of their guys looked like bike racers.

Chips Black off the right shoulder and the Pink and Blue Global Locate express in hot pursuit.
The race was strung out for the entire 18 laps. The riders were aggressive, able and in contrast to what I expected from Joizey racers, they weren’t rude. They were actually very nice, complimentary and didn’t have chips on their shoulders. I was expecting Andrew Dice Clay and was treated to Tom Hanks.

As I race all over the country, I am finding that the only masters riders who consistently have chips on their shoulders, burs under their saddles and egos larger than their accomplishments are in Southern California believe it or not – but that’s a story for another time.

Hells Bells, I- the most gregarious guy anyone would want to meet was the only guy to drop an F bomb in the entire race as I yelled at a Target Training rider who had just bridged across to an attack that I made. You know what he said? “Relax Mark.” Relax? Relax!? I was hypoxic trying to keep the pain in my legs greater than the pain in my lumbar and he’s telling me to relax. I would rather he told me to go **** myself but this was Joizey, not SoCal. So I relaxed until we were caught again and then I attacked for about the 10th time.

A group formed with all the teams present. 6 riders and we started to build a gap. One Global Locate guy, Dirk Cowley and two other guys. The other guys were weak. They sat on Dirk as he took a long pull down the head wind home stretch with 5 to go.

“Pull through!” I yelled. The dude pulled through slow and I knew that this break would get caught. I attacked after the slow dude pulled and it was now down to the Global Locate rider and me. Dirk exploded and the other two guys whimpered back to the peloton only 8 seconds back.

“You and me bud we got it, good gap. C’mon go harder”.

“No speak-a d’English”

“What?”

“Que?”

“Huh?”

“Que?”

“Oh ferchrissakes. So this is how it’s going to be?”

As it turns out the Global Locate dude was from the Dominican Republic and he was fast. His name was Edgar Pimentel and he wasn’t pulling my leg pretending not to know the native tongue of New Jersey. He beat me by 2 or three bike lengths in the end. His brother Juan and another team mate took 3rd and 4th according to Chips Black by a large amount. The team is strong. Chips took 8th and as he tells me, he did some defensive riding on my behalf – a selfless act for which I shall repay him at Superweek as he seeks the points title in the 40+ series.


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