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Old 09-08-10 | 12:13 PM
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the pros ride the top of the line components, period. DA, Record (or SR) and Red. you can justify cheaping out with the ultegra any way you want, but dont kid yourself, its not pro
Actually, PRO is buying the best bike you can afford and then doing the rest of your talking with your legs. What you are describing is POSEUR.
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Old 09-08-10 | 12:15 PM
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but dont kid yourself, its not pro
I'm not a pro myself.

But I will continue to kid myself, if that's OK with you.

And even if it isn't. Never, under any circumstances, face facts.
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Old 09-08-10 | 12:18 PM
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I'm not a pro myself.

But I will continue to kid myself, if that's OK with you.

And even if it isn't. Never, under any circumstances, face facts.
believe me pcad, no one lives under a thicker cloud of delusion than i do.
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Old 09-08-10 | 12:23 PM
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Pcad, the 2011 Scott R3 shares the same 790 gram frame as the R1 Addict. Now that is the buy of the yr.
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Old 09-08-10 | 12:24 PM
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That's marketing. Hey, people buy Toyota friggin Prius' too. I mean go figure.
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Old 09-08-10 | 12:30 PM
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the 2011 Scott R3 shares the same 790 gram frame as the R1 Addict. Now that is the buy of the yr.
I like it.

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Old 09-08-10 | 12:31 PM
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Old 09-08-10 | 12:55 PM
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I like it.

SWEET, you already got one huh? Damn that thing is hot!
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Old 09-08-10 | 12:58 PM
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Old 09-08-10 | 01:07 PM
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Actually, PRO is buying the best bike you can afford and then doing the rest of your talking with your legs. What you are describing is POSEUR.
IMO "pro" would be making a sustainable living for yourself and any family you may have. And by my definition and what I have learned on BF of typical cyclists salaries/earnings/winnings not many of the people who are paid or given something to ride should be considered 'pro'.
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Old 09-08-10 | 01:24 PM
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Nice Asian made bike, that Scott.
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Old 09-08-10 | 01:27 PM
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The larger Fujinon binocs run $5k+ and that's before you purchase the tripod (not cheap for a good one). Here's one of their larger models @ $15k -> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Binocular.html
Dang. I bet you can see Uranus with those!

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Old 09-08-10 | 01:35 PM
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Dang. I bet you can see Uranus with those!

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And woopie cushions?
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Old 09-08-10 | 01:48 PM
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6700 ftw
With a 7800 RD.
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Old 09-08-10 | 02:23 PM
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And woopie cushions?
How childish! You should grow up, you know

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Old 09-08-10 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by spinwax
Pcad, the 2011 Scott R3 shares the same 790 gram frame as the R1 Addict. Now that is the buy of the yr.
Incorrect. That is what Scott's marketing would have you believe. When you dig further, you find that it's an identical frame, but about 100 grams heavier (900 grams vs. 800) and the fork is 60 grams heavier (390 grams vs. 330 on the R1). Otherwise identical, I'm told they ride the same. Still builds up to a very light, stiff, great feeling and handling racing bike. I like it.

900 grams is very light for a CF race frame boys.
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Old 09-08-10 | 02:34 PM
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I own a bike with Dura Ace 7900. I think the Ultegra actually shifts better. Feels like a pro bike in every respect. Pretty light too.

It's a testament to the bike weenie proclivity for overspending to save a few grams. Thank God I'd never stoop to that.
Me too. I'm pretty happy with my 23.7 lb. bike rockin' first generation SIS. I dare say I got a lot better bike for the money since I only paid $50. Diminishing returns indeed.
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Old 09-08-10 | 03:38 PM
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Still builds up to a very light, stiff, great feeling and handling racing bike. I like it.

900 grams is very light for a CF race frame boys.
For a teeny tiny climber. You may be pushing, if not obliterating, the weight limit of that frame.

I've seen the pictures and videos of those shattered lightweight race bikes. Is it worth the risk at your age?
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Originally Posted by KiddSisko
For a teeny tiny climber. You may be pushing, if not obliterating, the weight limit of that frame.

I've seen the pictures and videos of those shattered lightweight race bikes. Is it worth the risk at your age?
I just called him old and fat in case anyone missed that.
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Old 09-08-10 | 03:39 PM
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I just called him old and fat
Who can argue with this?
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Old 09-08-10 | 03:44 PM
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Agreed. The justification I use to getting a more expensive bike/component/thingie is everything I have/do has gotten me here and I deserve something cool, lighter, more aero, etc. and I'll buy it just based on that. Retailers love me. Plus, I'm big and I'll take any real or imagined help I can get to scooting up the hills a little faster or easier.
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Old 09-08-10 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KiddSisko
For a teeny tiny climber. You may be pushing, if not obliterating, the weight limit of that frame.

I've seen the pictures and videos of those shattered lightweight race bikes. Is it worth the risk at your age?
I weigh 170 lbs gringo. Dripping wet. That's not exactly Clydesdale material. Besides which the Addict frame strikes me as fully capable of supporting 200 lb riders on 60 mph descents. It appears to be built like a brick shlithouse, regardless of its feathery weight. It is an impressive bit of CF engineering and design.
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Old 09-08-10 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kleinboogie
Agreed. The justification I use to getting a more expensive bike/component/thingie is everything I have/do has gotten me here and I deserve something cool, lighter, more aero, etc. and I'll buy it just based on that. Retailers love me. Plus, I'm big and I'll take any real or imagined help I can get to scooting up the hills a little faster or easier.
I like your thinking kb. You'll go places on BF.

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Old 09-08-10 | 04:17 PM
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do they sell that scott frame as just frame?
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